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If you can get over your bizarre dislike of the 306, I'd get one of those. 

 

Nah, I can't. It's too far up in the mingingness department.

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Isn't it just awful that you really have to try cars nowadays?

Back in the good times, when you bought a BX, you just knew what you are getting.

Nor really. Regardless of what a car is or what other people claim it to be, until I drive it I don't know whether or not it will meet my requirements.

 

I don't know how people buy any car (let alone new ones) without trying them first. It's basic.

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Nor really. Regardless of what a car is or what other people claim it to be, until I drive it I don't know whether or not it will meet my requirements.

 

I don't know how people buy any car (let alone new ones) without trying them first. It's basic.

Yeah, you are too wee to know what it was like when things were still good.

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R3 Rover 216 CVT would be my top pick.

I would need to win the Lotto first. They cost as much as an S-Class Merc.

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Yeah, you are too wee to know what it was like when things were still good.

Don't care. Unless the car was seriously cheap I'm not dropping money on the thing till I drive it. People could call it the best car in the world, and if I drive it and think it's shit, where does that leave me?

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More Ronda goodness

 

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It's an early one that would be on a (ignoring the odd personalised plate) M reg too. It's even more boring than a ZX, mind...

 

 

 

Drivers door handle needs fixing on but works fine.

 

They all do that, sir...

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Don't care. Unless the car was seriously cheap I'm not dropping money on the thing till I drive it. People could call it the best car in the world, and if I drive it and think it's shit, where does that leave me?

 

Er, selling it a few months later like I do. A test drive doesn't always allow you to fully form an opinion on a car anyway. Driving one 400 miles in a weekend certainly will, but grumpy sellers rarely let you conduct that much of a test drive.

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People could call it the best car in the world, and if I drive it and think it's shit, where does that leave me?

 

In an MG6?

 

:D

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In an MG6?

 

:D

 

That must be the maximum penalty.

Contrary to prison sentences, it could be quite an effective deterrent, actually.

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Don't care. Unless the car was seriously cheap I'm not dropping money on the thing till I drive it. People could call it the best car in the world, and if I drive it and think it's shit, where does that leave me?

 

I don't mind buying something I haven't driven if it's cheap enough to get rid of if I don't like it. But I really couldn't go out and buy something on a massive finance agreement that I knew I'd be stuck in for years without giving it a VERY thorough going over.

 

On the subject of ZXs, you can have a go of mine if you want, subject to being able to meet up somewhere. It's manual, like, but it might give you an idea of how they feel. Compared to the 306, it's a bit softer and smoother and has lovely squashy velour seats. They're a decent thing, really, and at the prices they're at presently, they're a good buy, IMO.

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You can get auto sMeganes, but the autos are made of cheese.

 

WHS, plus they're even more boring than ZXs. I've had mine for two years and do 60-80 miles a day in it, but don't actually have any memories of driving it. It feels as if pressing the central locking fob triggers an MIB-like device that erases every memory of driving the thing. Not that this is a bad thing, I suspect that if I actually remembered how it is to drive, I would refuse to get in !

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More Ronda goodness

 

$_86.JPG

 

It's an early one that would be on a (ignoring the odd personalised plate) M reg too. It's even more boring than a ZX, mind...

 

 

 

They all do that, sir...

I had one of these. It was like your grandad's living room but I really struggled to dislike it.

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I like ZXs. I've had this for five years I think, never owned another car anywhere near as long. It's a 1.9d, and it is S-L-O-W. So much so that after driving something else for a while when I drove this again I have to keep checking there isn't something stuck under the accelerator pedal.

 

Nothing goes wrong. Ever. Anything you do have to replace costs pennies and it's all readily available because it's pretty much mechanically the same as the C15, 306, Xsara, Saxo and Berlingo.

 

Despite having had it for ages, I still look back at it every time I walk away from it.

 

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Yeah, you are too wee to know what it was like when things were still good.

 

 

My Grandfather never test drove cars. A Rover suited him, so a Rover he bought. I can still remember how right he looked in one. It really fit him. Three point five; not too big, not too small. Not too brash, not too dull. Just right; it suited him down to the ground. He owned more than ten Rovers, over a lifetime.

 

When Rover started making Hondas, his world was shaken to its foundations. Thankfully he discovered Volvos. He had several, but it was at best a compromise. They were comfortable and that was enough.

 

Shortly before he died, I took him shopping at a supermarket in Knutsford. Parked by the entrance was a 3500 P6. It was immaculate in Almond with leather seats - and very similar to one he had in the mid 'Seventies. He paused a while and gently touched the rear wing, thinking of better days, and all that time had stolen from him.

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^^ What robinmasters says. I know more than one person who knows a lot about cars and has a ZX 1.9D. One is a racing driver, he's had his for at least a decade. Another is a concert pianist, another an engineer.

 

As I said on p1, there's something very pleasant about these machines, something very un-peugoet. They feel less Peugeot than a Xantia, even with its Nitrogen and green oil.

 

I'd be much more interested in how it goes over speed bumps.

 

That's all down to it not being a Volcane, and not having the knackered Peugeot back axle thing. Somehow ZXs attracted an owner who cared for his car like an old-fashioned Benz owner would (which is why Mercs used to last so well, half the time) and the heaviest thing in the boot would be a spaniel or Waitrose bags.

 

Go and drive the one in the Stockport car-park-by-hedge, no point in thinking they'll all be the same after 20 years of use. There should be plenty of softish travel in the rear springs and as you know, any rear wheel /-\ is a no-no.

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My dad had one of the first zx when they were released. I bought it from him at ten years old. Drove it to 130k, when the heater matrix went. If i had fixed that I would probably still be driving it now. 1.9d aura in triton green. I'd have another.

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OTOH, you can get five door Volvo 340s for not much coin in CVT flava.

This

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Also keep in mind that variomatic 340s struggle to return more than 25mpg, which would make daily use a rather expensive exercise.

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25 mph more like. I have been in one of those slugs.

We want French. English we have already. All other countries can't build cars, with the exception of USA,

but that's not what we want right now.

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No Ovlov until I moved 250 miles north.

Or become a teacher.

 

Oddly enough, I was teaching when I had the 240GLT...

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