List of cars scrapped under the scrappage scheme

[Skizzer]

^Ha!  Same here.  How sad are we?

 

My tidied up list looks like this:

 

Manufacturer Sum of Vehicles scrapped

Ford 74,046

Vauxhall 47,083

Peugeot 32,357

Volkswagen 31,893

Nissan 28,250

Renault 27,179

Rover 23,010

Toyota 15,145

Fiat 14,982

Citroen 13,748

Honda 10,374

Volvo 9,419

BMW 7,268

Mercedes-Benz 6,081

Mazda 5,664

Hyundai 4,471

Audi 4,380

Skoda 4,152

Suzuki 3,493

Daewoo 3,443

Seat 3,090

Mitsubishi 3,033

Land Rover 2,931

Saab 2,734

Austin Rover 2,050

Daihatsu 1,831

Proton 1,393

Subaru 1,085

MG 929

Alfa Romeo 847

Kia 813

Jeep 786

Jaguar 732

Austin 662

Chrysler 482

Isuzu 332

Carbodies / LTI 308

Freight Rover / LDV 285

--- unknown --- 252

Lexus 201

Triumph 125

Morris 118

Porsche 101

Opel 98

Perodua 77

Bedford 77

MCW / Metrocab 54

Iveco 43

Lada 35

Reliant 34

Talbot 24

Chevrolet 23

Lancia 23

Datsun 22

Tata 20

Rootes Group 18

Ssangyong 16

Mini 15

Zastava/Yugo 12

Smart 8

Riley 6

Asia Motors 6

FSO 5

Cadillac 5

Wolseley 4

Pontiac 4

Coleman-Milne 4

Aixam 4

British Leyland 3

Lotus 3

Standard 2

Mahindra 2

Rickman 1

Douglas 1

TVR 1

Banham 1

Dutton 1

Dodge 1

RMB 1

GMC 1

UMM 1

Piaggio 1

Quantum 1

Pilgrim 1

Enterprise 1

DAF 1

Oldsmobile 1

Buick 1

Holden 1

Morgan 1

Autobarn 1

Trabant 1

Marlin 1

Mini-Moke 1

Grand Total 392,227

 

 

I'm also working on a breakdown of the main manufacturers into models.  Some lowlights so far:

 

Peugeot is quite sad - 25 505s, 6 504s, at least one 404 (I think the 404 GRDT was probably a 405)

Vauxhall also - a Firenza, a Magnum, a Cresta, two Victors and a Ventora

19 Ford Cortina, a 1959 Popular, 3 Prefects and a Corsair

23 Rover SD1s and 52 SD3s, plus a few P6s

1,809 Metros, 167 Maestros and 70 Montegos

 

Gordon Brown's finest hour.

 

[Skizzer]

BTW on my list:

 

Austin Rover = Metros, Maestros and Montegos, including MG-badged variants.

Rover = earlier Rovers like the P6 and SD1, plus the 100/200/400/600 and 800 series and the 25/45/75, including their MG-badged variants (ZRs, ZSs and ZTs).

MG = Bs, Midgets etc, plus MGFs

Austin = older BL and BLMC stuff plus all non-BMW Minis, even the last Rover-badged ones.  I've put Princesses in here, although early ones were badged BL rather than Austin.

Mini = BINI.

Freight Rover / LDV = all Sherpas, even earlier Leyland ones.

British Leyland = no other description, so who knows.

Morrises, Triumphs, Wolseleys and Standards are listed separately.

 

All Avengers and Arrow cars, plus any earlier Humbers, Singers etc, are under 'Rootes Group'.

Talbot = mostly Express vans, plus a couple of Sambas and a Horizon

[DVee8]

The bloke over the road from me put in a Greg Merc 190 always garaged he had it from new in for a Merc C220d estate

[Negative Creep]

Who on earth scrapped a Morgan? Even the roughest one with a MOT would be worth far more than 2 grand

[Lankytim]

Does anybody know what the most valuable car scrapped was? Any E type jags? I want to be outraged, daily mail style.

 

Anybody recall the Triumph Mayflower that BMW was refusing to save? There was a bit of a campaign to save it.

 

If it's any consolation, a few Minors and similar ended up being ringed by using rotten wrecks as ID. Some scrap yards even sold cars minus ID on ebay!

[warren t claim]

I think I know the Holden that was Scrappaged. It wasn't what you'd expect.

[Partridge]

Only 1 XM and 4 Xantias...Nice work Citroen owners

[Partridge]

I nearly scrap dealed my Jag I had at the time when my wife bought her new Colt. Even though they only offered £1200 in p/x, I took that instead as the car was far to good to be cubed. Yes, I know I'm a sentimental old fool but it felt like the correct thing to do.

I salute you, Sir.

[Bren]

Another example of the brainwashing that New Labour meted out during their time in government.

 

Take money from the public / taxpayer and put it in the hands of foreign car manufacturers.

 

Priceless.

[warren t claim]

Are some of these still parked on an airfield somewhere? If they are then there's still a chance of saving a few.

[Skizzer]

Only 1 XM and 4 Xantias...Nice work Citroen owners

 

Sadly not.  The cleaned-up Citroen list makes pretty miserable reading:

 

Saxo 5,055

ZX 2,410

AX 2,182

Xantia 1,525

Xsara 1,263

Berlingo 485

BX 137

C15 130

Dispatch 105

Synergie 102

2CV 98

XM 87 

Relay 76

Unidentifiable 71 (of which one is just called 'historic vehicle')

Visa 4   (not including C15s)

Dyane 4 

CX 4 

C2 4

C4 3

C3 2

GSA 1   

 

No Amis or GS Birotors at least.

[Skizzer]

I think I know the Holden that was Scrappaged. It wasn't what you'd expect.

 

Aye, it was a Barina, which Wikipedia tells is a badge-engineered Suzuki Swift or Corsa B.

[theorganist]

I believe they had a similar scheme in the USA where there was an upper age limit of cars which could be scrappaged?! If the government were serious about the environmental effect which was supposed to be one of the reason for it they would have ensured that 10 year old smokey Mondeos were the main target not a 40 year old car which may do 1.000 miles a year.

 

The fact that it probably did more for the Korean car industry than the British is ironic!

[twosmoke300]

On the plus side over 5000 less saxos being driven round kfc car parks round the country

[Lacquer Peel]

I believe they had a similar scheme in the USA where there was an upper age limit of cars which could be scrappaged?! If the government were serious about the environmental effect which was supposed to be one of the reason for it they would have ensured that 10 year old smokey Mondeos were the main target not a 40 year old car which may do 1.000 miles a year.

 

The fact that it probably did more for the Korean car industry than the British is ironic!

I think the upper age limit was 30 years and it had to be a "gas guzzler". Still a horribly destructive piece of social engineering.

[Lankytim]

Yes, lots of these are at Thurleigh Airfield in Bedfordshire. Some guy on FB recently flew a balloon over and papped a few. Lots of Minis and FX4 cabs I seem to remember.

[brickwall]

Urban explorer types knocked this up. Sad. This is not how you save the planet ot stimulate the economy.

 

http://www.urbexforums.com/showthread.php/12139-Scrappage-Scheme-Grave-Yard-March-2011

[srad34]

Knowing the DVLA, its highly likely Brenda in the admin dept sent the SORN list through by mistake, so not so bad*

 

 

 

*Probably.... 

[Vin]

This is all so sad. It became obvious when it started that the main 'beneficiary' would be the OAP with the Nissan Micra etc, they'd bought new and cherished and then think the scheme is a money saving*, hassle free way of getting new wheels... :-(

 

I can't believe four MOT'd Fiat 127 Fiorinos were scrappaged. Doesn't sound right to me....

 

2 Panda Sisleys gone too...   I bought my Sisley in 2009 from Ebay and the seller was threatening to scrappage it against a 500 in the ad. He was an arse and a Derby County supporter to boot. So actually he was a TWAT.

[RedSparrow]

Even on Top Gear they pointed out that half of the cars on that airfield were probably fine and so to say it was done to help the environment was a lie of biblical proportions.

 

I don't think they can be saved though. It's been talked about on here loads in the past.

 

There's probably several thousand pounds worth of mini parts alone sitting there rotting.

 

The sad thing for me is that most people seem to think it was a good idea. As others have said - in most cases regular dealer discounts would've been more than £2000. PEOPLE ARE THICK.

[HH-R]

Some of the stuff definitely doesn't make sense that was scrapped, like the old classic BL/Rootes/Citroen stuff for a start - you'd assume they would have all have been enthusiast owned by 2009. The hope would be that they were knackered (but you wonder how badly if the cars had to be MOT'd). Only other reason I can think of is that the owner has had it from new and lives under a rock, just assumes that they're old crocks nobody would want. I don't see why the requirement for the vehicle to be destroyed had to be in place, there was no way any "green" credentials could have been pushed, except to the extremely gullible, after all binning off perfectly usable MOTd cars was downright wasteful. It seems very spiteful. The gov could have reduced the bill to the taxpayer by punting on anything that wasn't completely fooked, maybe get some of their £1000 back instead of getting £100 or whatever in weigh in value (knowing them, the scrappys will have said "I'll do you a favour and take these cars for nowt, instead of charging a disposal fee" and they gleefully accepted).

 

Though the whole scheme is so piss boilingly stupid that I have to wonder how it even came about.

[RedSparrow]

This is going to be controversial but I would rather they were all banger raced that left to rot or be cubed.

At least something would've been done with them.

[RRT22R]

[Vin]

Another thing that makes this a sad episode, is that a friend of mine ran a Fiat and Alfa specialists with a car sales forecourt on the front. Most of his forecourt stock good condition main dealer part exchanges and low mileage stuff from his regular customers that he had serviced for them. Eventually he closed it down laying off his workforce, citing scrappage as one of the reasons he closed down - No supply of the sort of cars that he used to sell. He works on his own now, just concentrating on service and repairs, still just Fiat and Alfa.

[Bobthebeard]

New to this thread, and not read it so far, but......

All well and good bleating on about how unfair/bad/despicable the scrappage scheme was. Yes, it was bad in the way that perfectly useable cars ended up cubed. But on the open market no bugger would buy them. Try selling a sub £1000 car and enter a world of pain. In Africa, for example, a cheap old car is transport, and needed/valued as such. In the UK it is different.

Mostly in the order of 'would love to buy your car, but.... etc etc etc.......'

Result = scrapped. Buy em, save em, or STFU methinks.

[PiperCub]

Was a boom-time for dodgy MoT's too according to a mate of mine in the trade. (He reckoned about a quarter of the ones he saw were clearly on iffy tickets). If you knew the right people, unticketed scrapper could be "MoT'd" then after a month or so (so no comeback against the tester) it could be traded for the 2K and be scrapped anyway.

 

To be honest, not sure where I stand on this ruse, in one way I'm against it, the other, I think, well, what would I do if I had something that was going to be junked anyway?

[In The Pit]

The best thing that could happen to these cars laid up on the airfield it that they are left there for at least twenty years and maybe the Government would sell them as they’d be classics then and possibly valuable, being on tarmac would help preserve them.  Probably won’t happen mind.

THE GOOD NEWS:
A small amount of cars that were put into the scrappage scheme possibly found a way out.  I know a MKII Escort did, it was an early 4 door Ghia in silver with a rare blue interior it was sold with no plates or VIN and the chassis number was ground off.  It appeared very tidy and looked a one owner original car, I’m very pleased it was saved.  I’m guessing it may be on a ebay logbook or a Q plate now.

THE BAD NEWS:
Boris Johnson wants to bring the scrappage scheme back but this time only for diesels, any diesel car over 1 year old would qualify.  I can’t see someone with a 12 month old £40,000 Mercedes Benz taking 2 grand to scrap it.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2751365/Junk-diesel-cars-They-health-hazard-scrap-pay-owners-2-000-Boris-tells-MPs.html

 

http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/sep/10/boris-johnsons-diesel-car-scrappage-scheme-could-cost-300m

[RedSparrow]

New to this thread, and not read it so far, but......

All well and good bleating on about how unfair/bad/despicable the scrappage scheme was. Yes, it was bad in the way that perfectly useable cars ended up cubed. But on the open market no bugger would buy them. Try selling a sub £1000 car and enter a world of pain. In Africa, for example, a cheap old car is transport, and needed/valued as such. In the UK it is different.

Mostly in the order of 'would love to buy your car, but.... etc etc etc.......'

Result = scrapped. Buy em, save em, or STFU methinks.

 

Yeah I get what you're saying. Saves time dealing ebay divs etc.

[PiperCub]

Boris is the one that needs scrapping.

[e287yba]

I remember some new list prices going up by £2k after this scheme was introduced, so even the customers weren't benefiting.

WHAT WAS POINT.

 

The point - with my cynical head on - was to stimulate the economy by getting people to buy new cars "for £2k less" (WOO, GOOD VALUE!!!) using borrowed money. This was hidden behind the usual "good for the environment" nonsense plus a lack of hard information about the reality of the situation which is normal nowadays...

 

Even if the cars came from abroad and much/most of the money went back there, the banks made a significant profit; if people don't borrow money from the banks then UKplc is totally scuppered - UKplc subsists on personal and corporate debt (and the interest charged on it) and wouldn't last long without it, don't forget . 

 

 

And yes, Boris is 'misguided' in much of the stuff he suggests! Unfortunately, I suspect he will go far and get into a position to really mess things up nationally rather than locally (as he can do now).