Does anyone rate the Mitsubishi Lancer, four years now and still happy

[garbaldy]

Well afer all this wonderfull feedback about the mazda6 I should stear well away of them. Maybe I should just keep what I've got already.

[Lukas]

I´ve a 07 Mazda 6 2.0i and am very happy with it. Watch out for rust and avoid the Diesel. The petrol-one is not so bad on fuel too, mine (Estate, Automatic, 2.0i 147hp) wants ~ 8,5 litre petrol on 100km, so not that bad. And a lot less trouble then the diesel-ones.

 

Mine is almost 8 years now with ~ 150.000km on the clock and no rust except on the suspension parts.

 

´The Mazda 6 is not a bad car! There are just a few point to look for or to avoid. If you choose carefully, it´s a good car.

[Lukas]

No. Buy a skoda octavia diesel.

Every taxidriver on the planet can't be wrong.

 

If your planet ends at the shores of Great Britain, you are right.

[cort16]

If you buy any modern diesel with DPF, DMF, OMG and DMZ you'll run into similiar problems. Modern diesels are way too complex and you'll end up running into problems probably just around the time the warranty runs out. I've not heard of many modern diesels that don't have problems. Toyota and Lexus maybe?

Unless your doing mega miles stick to petrol. The cars are cheaper, cleaner and you don't have to live with that contant chatter

[Lukas]

The Lexus IS220d and Toyota-diesel-engines suffer from the typical modern-diesel-desasters too. I wonder how the long-distance-trucks like the Scanias and Volvos and MANs do. They seem to have very modern engines too (Euro-6) and they do mega-mileages across Europe.

[Lacquer Peel]

I suspect modern cars are engineered to last the warranty or lease period, white goods.

 

Buy a Mk3 Cavalier.

[Honey Badger]

Buy an Accord Pez, they are discounting the last few of the 8th gens like fook as Honda UK don't like advertising them as they are not made in Swindon.

 

I agree with cort that unless you are doing mega miles then modern diesels are to be avoided, just be prepared to be looked at like some kind of social msifit when you go into a dealer and tell them you don't want a shiny new Dizzler and that you would like a petrol automatic no smaller than a 2.0.

[Lacquer Peel]

My mum's 2002 Accord has been mega reliable, but it always seems to need an inordinate amount of money spent on it at MOT time. The worst was for rotten brake pipes.

[r.welfare]

The only recent Mazda I can think of that doesn't have a rust problem is the RX-8. Presumably because the engine expires before the rust bug bites.

[steve_earwig]

Just out of interest

The Lexus IS220d and Toyota-diesel-engines suffer from the typical modern-diesel-desasters too. I wonder how the long-distance-trucks like the Scanias and Volvos and MANs do. They seem to have very modern engines too (Euro-6) and they do mega-mileages across Europe.

http://www.toyotaownersclub.com/forums/topic/132178-charliefarlies-guide-to-the-toyota-2ad-diesel-engine-and-its-issues/

 

Engine as service item. Before I got sick of the "Toyotas are wonderful, they fix all the faults under warranty!" stuff on this forum (wondering how us poor blighters further down the food chain are supposed to sort them out when the warranty is a distant memory) I did enjoy the way this guy went from Toyota, Toyota, rah rah rah to his one being dumped out the back because it looked like his second new engine had already gone south...

 

 

Mazda 6? Meh, I'm on my second Japanese car now, there won't be a third.

[gordonbennet]

The Lexus IS220d and Toyota-diesel-engines suffer from the typical modern-diesel-desasters too. I wonder how the long-distance-trucks like the Scanias and Volvos and MANs do. They seem to have very modern engines too (Euro-6) and they do mega-mileages across Europe.

 

Well funny you should ask that, my 16 month old MAN artic has covered just over 200k kms, its one of three identical triplets,  on full dealer maintenance all have been called in to have the bottom of the engines stripped down due, apparently, to nasties (unofficially told metal particles) being found in the oil samples, about 4 days work on each.

 

My Cummins' of yore covered around 75k miles a year at a cruising speed of 70 mph (not mincing about at 50 all day) and never but never went wrong (maintained proper too none of this extended drain bollocks), the company i worked for used to sell them @ 7 years old and there was a queue of owner drivers and small hauliers itching to buy them.

 

So yes, modern lorries are shit too, more ECU's than you could shake a stick at, and they won't pull you out of bed, gutless bastards.

[Justin Case]

The case for the Mazda 6:

 

Mazda 6 no1: petrol 2.0, 07, 42k miles , nothing has gone wrong in 3 1/2 years, no rust.

Mazda 6 no2: petrol, 2.3 auto, 4x4. 05 120k miles, nothing has gone wrong in 5 years, only rust was at bottom of wheel arch, but needed cutting out and plating because it was near the seat belt mounting.

 

No1, mine bought on recommendation of friend who owns No2. However No2 lives in the wilds of Derbyshire where the roads have to be heavily salted for about 9 months of the year.

 

I rest my case (is that the right term BV?)

[PiperCub]

Never even driven one myself but a mate had a petrol one (2 litre I think) a while ago, ran it for 18 months, no issues, bit dull to drive he said but was a good cheap family hack so no complaints. He was told by his tame mechanic to avoid the diesel as allegedly 'They are fine when running OK but can be an expensive nightmare when they go wrong'.  

[Sloth in a bowl]

Assuming that you are looking for an estate, new and about 22k before haggling then looking at www.carpages.co.uk I would be considering an octavia with the 1.4 TSI motor.

[Barry Cade]

My Corrosion Assessment tool (Mot hole poker) loves Mazdas- they really are rotten. I was also mildly bemused a few weeks back when asked to replace an injector seal on a 3...which had a Citroen engine...and not the good one. It also had electrical issues.

[bub2006]

Been stripping one of these today at a friends garage. He buys in cars and either breaks or sells them. Bought a 53 plate from auction,bought it back to the garage and less than 40 mile since buying of,it now has a Large hole in the block where it looks like a con rod has made a bid for freedom. Car has 72k on clock with a fair bit of history. Friend isn't impressed so broke for spares to recoup some of his outlay. Obviously engine isn't worth anything. Striping it down found lots of rot. Sills are crumbling (looks like its from the inside when we took out the carpet) substantial corrosion on the seatbelt mounts on the inside of car. Corrosion inside of rear quarters when tail lights removed,rear arches look a little bubbly from the outside but removing inner liners shows a lot more leading down to the sills so looks like arch linen is trapping water, one front wing when unbolting bottom bolts flexed at the mount and snapped. Numerous other fixings,mounts etc very corroded. Both of us very surprised to see a relatively modern car with low ish mileage have substantial engine damage and corrosion

[bub2006]

Also i pointed put the world's most stupid stereo. The whole unit is tied in to the dashboard with the heater controls. No after market unit can be fitted. My mate said its a bitch if stereo packs up as the whole dash has to be replaced

[garbaldy]

I have seen a few rotten Mazda's before but it is the 08 on shape that I was mainly thinking of and I have yet to see one of those with rust, 

at a guess I would say the new shape one still runs the old engines anyway so still not an ideal proposition for longevity from what I've  read so far  

[garbaldy]

Well I took on board all the negative mazda6 comments and did the manly thing and promptly won one on Ebay totally ignoring all your advise   

it was a lovely 08 diesel estate with all the toys and looked lovely unfortunately the seller must have wanted more money for it and ignored all my emails then promptly listed it on bumtree for more money twatsticks.  never mind it obviously wasn't meant to be.

 

 The search has intensified now as I have sold our bumwu which was collected today, so this is the other car that I like the styling of they are pretty well specked and very much cheaper than the more popular makes, so any horror storeys then and don't be to negative or I shall have to ignore you all again

 

[cort16]

I like the look of them.Not many saloons around though they're mostly weird looking hatchback versions that look pretty shit.

I think the interior are a bit shiny but not overly offensive.

[trigger]

I've no experience of them but I do think they a good looking car, there's not many about so you should stand out from the crowd a bit too.

[r.welfare]

I like how the standard version now looks a bit like the Evo if you're pissed/a long way away/it's raining etc, the old basic models were right old plain Janes.

 

I do wonder if Mitsubishi are going to pull out of the UK market on the basis they now sell about 19 cars per year and you don't see as many Warrior pickup knob wagons as you did. So I'd be checking to see if they are still built well - they probably are because lots of other parts of Mitsubishi make a profit to offset the car division, but on the other hand the new Mirage is getting a right old slating for being cheap and nasty in the press.

[garbaldy]

I do wonder if Mitsubishi are going to pull out of the UK market on the basis they now sell about 19 cars per year

 

 

well from what I've read the lancer has been dropped from the UK line up now     the saloon was dropped in 09/10 apparently, 

I guess its a discreet way of being pineappled due to vag engine 

[saucedoctor]

A chap I know has run a succession of Lancers as minicabs. Loves em. The one he has now looks exactly like the one in your photo. 1600 pez.

[cort16]

The Mitsubishi range is full of really really dull looking cars. I think they've done that world car thing which just produces horrible bland snooze boxes.

I had a 2004 colt pez and it was a good car but it rattled and squeaked like anything and was only 2 years old at the time .

[Pillock]

I've sat in one, does that make me qualified?

It was a bit cheap looking inside but felt like it would wear well - if that makes sense. Shiny plastics but not creaky or loose. The one I was in was black everything (inc headliner I think) and really gloomy. Made an Audi look like a gay pride march through a Haribo factory.

They seem to make at least 60% of the models look sporty to capitalise on the OMGEVOYO sales and following so make sure it's not a gutless engine with fancy spoilers.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

The Police in London have got a few of these ,which they use as plain cars. They seem to go well and when one comes up behind you all lit up,at first they look like some superdooper Interceptor thing. Until a Mondeo dogvan overtakes it.

A few of these come up when you put saloons under 6 years old and under £4k in an Autotrader search,along with shitloads of Dodge/ Chrysler Avenger/ Sebrings and the odd new shape Laguna or C5 and 407s. Out of that lot the Lancer looks pretty attractive.

[cort16]

And the Chevrolet cruize

[NorfolkNWeigh]

And the Chevrolet cruize

Forgot them and the Epica. Also whatever Kia and Hyundai called there last generation big cars.

Actually if I needed cheap comfy newish transport a big Korean would probably be what I'd get.

[Jim Bell]

No experience of them but that looks nice and distinct. Think Jackie Chan endorsed them at some point in time, so you can't go wrong.