Granada 3.0s

[Bren]

Just been on eBay, R plate example, been off road since 1995, needs outer panels but a runner.

 

Top bid of £3250, did'nt make reserve.

 

A consul GT project sold for over a grand more a few weeks ago.

 

Scene tax? I doubt it, probably because they are so rare.

[155V6]

That must be mega-rare now,didn't they have a steering wheel unique to that model?

[NorfolkNWeigh]

It's scene tax but not just old Ford.

Old Thaw.

 

Regan had a 3.0s between the Consul and the 3.0 Ghia.

 

 

 

A signal orange 3.0s without a vinyl roof is on my lottery list. The combination of the basic L trim with just a sports steering wheel and a pair of spot lights was obviously not appealing to many people when new but seems perfect to me now.

[mercrocker]

I wish they had kept making more sixpots with RWD, no extras, black cloth upholstery and wind up windows.....

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I don't think Signal colours were available on Granadas. I look with lust at the gold base model in the '77 Ford Cars brochure with the 2000 economy motor and stainless GXL wheeltrims.

[Pete-M]

It's not scene tax, it's supply and demand.

 

I'd love a MMk1 3.0 Granada. I did have a 3.0 Ghia coupe but always wanted a saloon.

 

The Coupe cost me £100 in 1989 - which was more than a Mk1 or 2 Escort cost. In the spirit of Autoshite I should now be screaming OSF SCENE TAX RIP OFF! at the idea of paying more for something now than they cost 25 years ago when the things were everywhere.

[Junkman]

It is scene tax, and scene tax only.

 

http://www.leboncoin.fr/voitures/637844595.htm?ca=1_s

[Pete-M]

So €1000 + probably £800 to get it here, plus NOVA bull shit + registration, head lights, speedometer + whatever work it needs - plenty of buyers because it's LHD.

 

Yeah. That's Scene tax.

[cort16]

I remember about 10 years ago that afFORDable classics, who aren't known for their low low prices had a couple south african of Perana Granadas with the mustang v8 in them for 5 grand each.

God only knows what they'd go for now. Awesome though.

 

[Bren]

There is a pile of yellow coloured rust on eBay at the mo that is allegedly a 1972 consul GT.

 

It has been under a lean to since 1988.

 

You can imagine what it is like.

 

Bidding is just over £200, no doubt some shyster is after the vin plate.

[trigger]

I remember about 10 years ago that afFORDable classics, who aren't known for their low low prices had a couple south african of Perana Granadas with the mustang v8 in them for 5 grand each.

 

 

I saw one that Affordable Classics sold a few years back, It was very nice!

 

 

 

 

 

[oman5]

I'd hate to think about how few of these remain now between banger racers, low values for so long, rust and banger racers. happily owning a mk1 3.0 is an itch I've already scratched.

I seriously think it's rarity driving values up. save one while you can?

[Junkman]

So €1000 + probably £800 to get it here, plus NOVA bull shit + registration, head lights, speedometer + whatever work it needs - plenty of buyers because it's LHD.

 

Yeah. That's Scene tax.

 

If a Granada bought in the UK costs more, or even the same, as one bought in France including transport, having its headlights and speedometer changed, and the registration costs paid, than this is scene tax, yes. Plus, a French example from the right region could potentially save you a lot of welding expenses.

[Pete-M]

Supply and demand is not scene tax.

 

Supply and demand is what sets the value of everything. If you want something enough you'll pay for it. If it's not something anyone wants it won't fetch much money.

 

My old 604, I offered it on here for less than the cost of getting it solid, presentable and road legal. It wasn't wanted here even at 1/3rd of the price of the next cheapest Road legal 604 advertised in the whole of Europe at that time. Less than the banger boys were willing to pay to destroy it. Supply was there but there was no demand for a RHD 604. I imagine on Automerde some anorak was saying "taxe de popularité. Conduite à droite aussi. Qui, dans leur esprit?" Because in 1987 they'd bought a rusty 604 for 30 francs and a soggy croissant. Eventually someone turned up who wanted a 604, knew how much work had gone into saving my one and who was willing to pay me what it had cost me to save it. No doubt that's "scene tax" as it's more than you could buy a 604 for in the mid 80s. Supply outstripped demand. Does that make it a scene tax rebate?

 

My Mk2 Escort. I wanted one and scoured Europe for one worth saving. I wanted one in original specification and managed to find it. I quite probably couldn't find another one of the same specification for anywhere near the same price now, so if I decided to sell mine and replace it I would have to pay more. That isn't scene tax, it's supply and demand. I couldn't afford to sell mine for the initial purchase price as it has been stripped and rebuilt pretty much completely and is now a much nicer example than it was. It's now usable for the first time in 22 years. It has had five years of effort put into it. Going by the expectations of those who decry any increase of a car value as scene tax I should now flog it for £60 - as that's what I paid for a scruffy Mk2 in 1989. The work that has gone into the car doesn't count as all those who shout "Scene tax" can do all the work themselves to higher standards for free, and they would never even consider charging for their time, effort or materials. Would they?

[Wilko220]

Surely "scene tax" and "supply and demand" amount to the same thing. It's just semantics.

 

Fords have a big scene around them and lots of people want to buy them. I doubt the two things are unconnected, although the origins of this situation are a bit "chicken and egg" I suppose...

[sporty-shite]

"Scene tax" and supply and demand are one and the same thing, and as a dyed on the wool Tory, you should see that, Pete.

 

The "scene" creates the demand. Rust, banger racers et al diminish the supply. The old car market is a pure free market where things will only sell for what people are willing to pay. Old cars are not a necessity and are therefore completely price elastic. When demand falls so will price. Until then, old Fords etc will bring strong money.

 

Simples.

[dieselnutjob]

the mark one Granada is also such a nice looking car

[oldford]

I saw one that Affordable Classics sold a few years back, It was very nice!

 

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I believe that the previous owner sold it to Affordable and now has as a Classic, an Allegro Vanden Plas.

 

We had a nice Consul 2.5 in Orange at work awaiting collection by its owner which I got to drive 100 yards the other day.

[Taff]

 I should now flog it for £60 -

 

first dibs, eh?