Renault 6TL "Crapaud"

[PhilA]

Tenacity!

[michael1703]

What diameter is your pick up pipe?

 

8mm

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Land-Rover-Series-I-One-1-2-II-fuel-pickup-pipe-237585-repair-gauze-mesh-filter-/132004449194?hash=item1ebc140baa:g:~CwAAOSwYIxX8sU2

[vulgalour]

It's 6mm, which is super tiny.

 

Forgot to add: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/In-tank-fuel-filter-pick-up-body-6-mm-strimmer-chainsaw-blower-brushcutter-new-/171599125473

 

That's my current best fix on hunting for a solution.  A small section of fuel hose to hold the filter onto the pick up should do the trick.

[michael1703]

Ahh, I know of some 6mm

 

https://www.vwheritage.com/shop/bay-bus/111209147A/filter-fuel-tank-exit-tube-long-brass/?crumbStartPage=1&crumbStartRow=1

[vulgalour]

I'd seen those but couldn't find dimensions.  How would I stop it dropping off the pick up and ending up in the bottom of the tank?  Are they an interference fit on the pipe?

[plasticvandan]

I've used brass mesh (or a cut up sieve) soldered to the end before with success

[michael1703]

They're tight on the pipe but on a VW they're fitted upwards and use a compression fitting. You could solder/lockwire/jubilee clip it on.

 

I think they're about 50-60mm long, I might have an old one at work, I'll have a look

[vulgalour]

The VW one may well be suitable, there's 35mm of pipe below the little crimp 'star' you can see and I'm pretty sure it doesn't touch the bottom of the tank.  If not, getting the fine brass mesh/gauze and soldering it in place is certainly a viable option, I've got the kit to do that.

[nigel bickle]

Stop over complicating his. It's a baby Renner,for christs sake.

 

Tip a glug down its throat, rig up a gravity flow can from its roof, turn the key and floor it.

 

Once it's running and you can move it a few feet, your love will return.

 

Right now it feels like a flamin' phantom pregnancy!

[michael1703]

I did that on my Nsu prinz, it backfired and set light to the fuel line and started spreading to the jerry can balanced on the roof, I grabbed the fuel line and can and sent droplets of flaming fuel all up my garage wall

[PhilA]

Perhaps attach a compression fitting to the bottom of the pipe to make it a little larger then fit a sideways fuel sock like this to it. They just push on in most cases, tight.

 

 

Phil

[vulgalour]

Sorry, Mr Bickle, I'm doing my best  In all honesty, it's incredibly frustrating this end too, lots of people make this look easy and I'm just finding it not to be.  Every little bit of it is driving me spare, especially today's farce.  I'm just sharing the misery.

[Tickman]

... lots of people make this look easy....

Everyone has there own skills, I have never found the making it look easy one though.

 

Keep on with it when you want to and it will get done!

[plasticvandan]

This car reminds me of my old Rebel van. 

A brief list of mechanical maladies as follows:

headgasket went on original engine,changed gasket.

original engine later became so oil thirsty i had to change the engine,so engine out

Headgasket went on replacement engine,6 days later got the head off and changed engine

Gearbox started pissing oil out,so gearbox and engine out again

Rebuilt gearbox

engine and box back in

I was dailying that as well...

Things are only semi enjoyable the first time,after the third time of having the engine out mojo is easily lost and things never seem to go back together as well as the first time.

Much as i want to see this running,you have done the hard work now,savour the smaller jobs in refurbing the fuel lines as your pretty much there,no point jury rigging everything to bodge it into life as you will end up being tempted to leave it once its running when really it needs doing properly

[twosmoke300]

Go down your local lawnmower repair place and see if they have any old fuel tanks with a tap on the bottom . Hook this up to the carb directly via a filter and get her fired up . Its a big boost hearing it running and will help keep spirits up on a long term job like this.

[vulgalour]

Right chaps, important update.

 

 

It ran.

 

 

Then it didn't.  The problem is the carburettor.  I've got fuel, spark, compression and combustion and the car will run but only if you put fuel directly in the carb, bypassing the important twiddly bits of the carb.  I do have a rebuilt kit coming in the post so I can get the carburettor sorted out properly.  Until then, I'm bolting stuff back on because, fundamentally, it is all working now.

 

Apart from the fuel gauge.

[vulgalour]

Report in full then on this.

 

I knew it couldn't be much stopping the car running so before Mike got back from the unit with extra tools, I hooked up a jerry can of fuel by the front wheel below the pump to see if the pump could pump fuel and it can, very well.  I double checked for spark at the sparks which I'm getting and I already knew I was getting decent compression.  All the ingredients were in place so it should run.

 

After a few attempts to start fuel had got all the way up to the carb but it clearly wasn't getting further.  When Mike returned, we blew the main fuel line through that runs the length of the sill and it spat a few bits of sandy stuff out and then just fuel vapour so that's probably clear now.  I'd also got the top off the carb and found the float was free moving and still being  a float and there was very little by way of sediment in the float chamber.  The fuel passages I could get to without fully dismantling the carb off the car were a bit gummed up and I cleaned out what I could so fuel flow into the float chamber was now very good, but fuel flow out of it wasn't happening at all.  That, we decided, was the cause of the problem.

 

So, we put some accelerant down the intake and attempt to start the car, which happened surprisingly willingly.  However, it's virtually impossible to run a car like that so we very soon didn't have a running car again.  It was, however, a moment of great joy to know that it does work and should work very well once the carb is completely cleaned up and rebuilt properly.

 

That means my next job is to refit the front sheet metal, put the steering rack on and connect anything that still needs connecting so the car is ready to go once the rebuild kit arrives.  It's a really good place to feel like I'm at after a very long and frustrating slog.

[bub2006]

I'm moving to Alfreton soon, if you wanna move back to Bolsover I'll happily pop up of a weekend and do a bit on it with you!!!

Somercotes end, Swanwick end or the posh end? Not that there is many posh areas left up there now. I've watched Somercotes go down the pan over the years!

Vulg, top work getting it running. You will get there and it will all be worth it in the end.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

a bit out of Alfreton actually, Newton (near Tibshelf)

[plasticvandan]

sounds good,get everything bolted up and sorted ready so it "could" be driven while you wait for the carb kit

[bub2006]

a bit out of Alfreton actually, Newton (near Tibshelf)

I was born in Sutton, grew up round there. Spent many childhood hours riding bike round trails. Teenage years were round Somercotes, Alfreton, Newton, Blackwell etc. If you need a hand shifting over this way I'm happy to help

[DodgeRover]

a bit out of Alfreton actually, Newton (near Tibshelf)

Is Izaxs of Newton still open? Last thing I heard they had bought a boat to do Isle of Man TT ferry service

[Rocket88]

Huzzah! Well done Mr Vulg...................................all you need now is some mfree mirrors, and chrome rimzz

[PhilA]

I'm glad to be wrong!

 

Phil

[They_all_do_that_sir]

That's cheered me right up good job dude

 

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[dollywobbler]

Great stuff. Good luck getting the carb sorted out.

[vulgalour]

Let's have some more good news.

 

Tyres - Full set of five, brand new, arriving from the UK.

Radiator - the German company I ordered from have found an alternative supplier when the one they had listed wasn't in stock and a new one is being delivered.

Rear screen demister switch - also in the post, coming from Spain

Carburettor rebuild kit - also in the post, coming from Croatia

New choke stop/arm - mine is pretty mangled, doesn't really work.  One in the post from the Netherlands.

 

Everything is due to be here between the 8th and the 20th

 

The only thing I haven't decided on yet is the best solution for the in-tank filter.  The next few days are predicted to be quite mild, for the time of year, so I should be able to crack on with quite a bit now.

[Timewaster]

All good progress.

 

If it makes you feel better, in the time you have done all this I have covered my spitfire in junk, uncovered it and slowly covered it in junk again.

[plasticvandan]

Just a thought on your filter,thinking very outside the box,but could you use a short rubber hose on the end of the sender pipe with an inline filter on the end?

[scaryoldcortina]

or you could just put the filter on the engine bay end of the pipe....