The shitlist: Budget buy winter transport search begins...

[ruffgeezer]

Well since I sold the Delica earlier in the year, I am now unprepared for the coming winter/omgsnaowkaos.

 

I have a very tight budget both in finances and time, so currently local to me in south Lincs are a Frontera sport on a P plate, which should be suitable for purpose but needs a sill repair and has short mot for around 500 or a 99/T Honda HRV for the same.

 

I've never driven an HRV.but I know this one has been cared for, but will it be woefully shite come the white stuff?

[Sigmund Fraud]

Why not just invest in a set of decent winter tyres ?

[John F]

Philibusmo's selling a rather nice Frontera...

[gdhaydock]

Philibusmo's selling a rather nice Frontera...

 

It might need some more packing peanuts for the seat though as it lost a few on saturday.

 

There may also be footprints around the sunroof area

[overrun]

Why not just stick with 'summer' tyres and manage OK ?

Agreed.

[crapcarcollector]

Isn't the HRV same running gear as the CRV? If it is my 02 daily driver CRV was/is epic in OMGSNOKAOS, on standard Bridgestone H/T Deullers.

 

And it isn't a Vauxhall. Which is nice.

 

[jmsguzzi]

Subaru Legacy's are going cheap on eBay. 

[John F]

Isn't the HRV same running gear as the CRV? If it is my 02 daily driver CRV was/is epic in OMGSNOKAOS, on standard Bridgestone H/T Deullers.

 

And it isn't a Vauxhall. Which is nice.

 

  

 

I can't decide whether this comment is deeply sad or very funny indeed.

[ShiteRider]

Or just buy a fiesta and bounce off things

[mouseflakes]

For a super-budget option, I found our old Saxo D was really good in the OMGSNOKAOS last year. Only problem is the feeling that you need to maintain forward momentum - which resulted in me having to overtake a few up-hill 'plodders' or risk getting stuck. I s'pose this is not such an issue with 4WD - but I imagine the prices are already rising as the temperatures drop.

[Junkman]

Why not just invest in a set of decent winter tyres ?

 

How unshite is this?

You need some absolute tosh for bridge money with MoT left until March or so, two different crossplies up front and a pair of 28 year old Kamasutra Coitus M+S out back.

[ruffgeezer]

I am pretty comfortable driving in snowy conditions, unfortunately, the people I share a commute with aren't.

 

My route to and from work takes in several large hills which, when snowy, are almost always strewn with Barry Fatbastard in his 7.5t truck, hopelessly incapable of making the summit of the hill, but mercilessly polishing the surface up by his repeated attempts, that or perhaps Derek Poshbollocks who has no idea how to drive in the snow and just sits with his foot on the throttle, wondering why he goes nowhere, regardless of which direction he attempts to travel.

 

Driving in the snow isn't a problem, driving in the snow around people who are incapable of driving in the snow is. The only time I have been stuck in the past was when I had to attempt a hill start in the Xantia, even with winter tyres I think I would have struggled.

[kinkersaab]

Got a surplus forester sat here. 2001 manual with high and low box and a tow bar, its silver and smells of dog. £300

[Lacquer Peel]

You'd be surprised at the massive difference winter tyres make.

Did you get the white Xantia TD estate stuck in the snow? That was running some spurious Chinese tyres.

[dollywobbler]

My Legacy was pretty handy in snow, but a BX on winter tyres was pretty good AND could stop very briskly too. I was amazed at what a difference winter tyres made to stopping power. I'm fretting a bit about what to do this winter. Maybe I need some winter tyres for the 2CV.

[overrun]

Or just buy a fiesta and bounce off things

 

ZOMGICEYROADBAILOUT

[skattrd]

No real help from me, but the best cars I've driven in the snow were a 750cc Panda with skinny tyres and the Volvo S80 with winter tyres.

I'd say winter tyres are more important than 4wd in the snow. However something 4wd with winter tyres would be gr9.3.

 

Wasn't someone selling a cheap Justy on here?

[Micrashed]

+1 on the winter tyres - the Micrashed ran winter tyres (all year round) for three years (in fact the worn ones are still on the back) and was great  in the snow (less so in the ice) and I also bought some snow socks and a shovel for really snowy bits.

 

Total outlay about £200 all in for 4 tyres, snow socks and a B&Q Value Shovel.

 

Never got stuck or lost traction once.

[ruffgeezer]

The Forester  would be top bombing, but my free time at the moment is take up with fitting a kitchen to the extension that cunt built. 8" of shitley built stud wall is not suitable for hanging kitchen cabinets from.

 

 

You'd be surprised at the massive difference winter tyres make.
Did you get the white Xantia TD estate stuck in the snow? That was running some spurious Chinese tyres.

 

No it was several Xantias before that, it was a 2l Hdi with michelins on.

[Junkman]

Never got stuck or lost traction once.

 

Yep, getting stuck and losing traction would require

 

- A.) a Winter

- B.) Snow

 

Not seen either in the decade I'm in England now.

[Sigmund Fraud]

How unshite is this?

You need some absolute tosh for bridge money with MoT left until March or so, two different crossplies up front and a pair of 28 year old Kamasutra Coitus M+S out back.

 

You have pretty much described my 740, only the fronts are matched slovenian 'budget' tyres (same handling characteristics as crossplies) and the rears are proper Yoko winter tyres.

 

Throughout last year's SNOKAOS, the boxy shiteheap managed to take me to work and back without incident, overtaking plenty of poorly driven SUVs in the process.

[Lukas]

Winter-tires are absolutly normal here, they are even statutory at winterly driving conditions. Summer tires during winter seem a bit careless to me, but that´s why I am used to changing tires twice a year.

[John F]

Ah yes, but you have 'proper' winters in Austria. We just have slightly colder rain than usual

[beko1987]

I'm tempted to shod the xm in some part worn winters, not sure how it will cope with very worn whatever's on there now!

 

Fuck knows when I'll do that though

[twosmoke300]

Don't forget some hrv's are 2wd

[mercrocker]

I am putting my Oxford back on the road for winter.  Its already shit-rotten, knows how to fall over on the ice and big enough to sleep in if the worst happens.   If even worse happens after that, they can survive 20 laps at Hednesford.  Bring it on, snowman!

[John F]

Don't forget some hrv's are 2wd

 

And so are some CRVs.

 

But neither of them are remotely serious off-road vehicles IMO. They may be able to cope with a bit of damp grass or some suburban slush, but the only way one of these 'lifestyle' things would have got through the lanes at Mongfest '13 was to have been shackled to the back of one of the Discos or the Niva.

 

Or, indeed, the VAUXHALL* Frontera, which acquitted itself very well on the day

[twosmoke300]

All the crv's apart from the very latest ones are 4wds. All the UK ones anyway. Crv is surprisingly good considering.

[John F]

Yep, they're probably OK for commuting in the sort of snow we usually get in England. Although their drive system is 2wd until the front wheels lose traction, whereupon the rear diff is hydraulically activated, apparently.

But they're quite a different animal from something that has selectable 4wd, a low-range gearbox and ground clearance.

[twosmoke300]

Dual pump system to be exact. 7 odd years as a honda diagnostic teccy means I saw loads of em and they are deffo a soft roader. Mk1 's are really cheap now and that 2.0 dohc motor is a beaut. Ideal for winter commuting I would think