shite ive spotted (fcuk the bus ????)

[bones96]

 

 

 

 

 

tescos bus using other firms diesel wtf

 

 

NEVER MIND THE BUS WHAT ABOUT THE SHITE CARS ??????

[Mike D]

Diesel is all the same, except bp and esso have a different additive. It all comes from the nearest distribution centre.

[Cavcraft]

Diesel is all the same, except bp and esso have a different additive. It all comes from the nearest distribution centre.

Correct and apologies for being the anorak of the bunch here Bones but it's not strictly Tesco's bus, it's owned by First Bus/Arriva/whoever and hired out to Tescos.

[Richard]

Tesco must have their pumps calibrated to the lower end of the tolerance then, because Tesco diesel definitely doesn't go anywhere near as far. They aren't cheap either.

[r.welfare]

I understand their filter system for the underground tanks is not as good, which leads to greater condensation.

[The Blue Lumiere!]

Ooooh, Taunus. In brown. Classy.Does anyone else think the Taunus looks like the mkIII Cortina AND the mkIV, at the same time?Just me, then..

[Owain-328i]

Taunus is nice, MG is amazing, i love that stuck under a tree for a decade look! MOT it and use as-is.

[Rocket88]

I was in Germany in the mid seventies, serving Queen and country, and had a string of Taunus's [Tauni?] Lovely cars, far better than the equivalent Cortina. Strangely, they didn't use the old Pinto engine before the one pictured above, they were all v4 and v6 powered. Top of the range was a 26M, which was a 2.6 V6, and they also did a 2 litre V6. Even the v4 variants were nice.

[r.welfare]

This may be complete bollocks - but following on from the Mk1/Mk2 Escort estate and van comments - I'm pretty sure that the Mk4 Cortina estate is just a Mk3 Taunus from the windscreen back. Ford did like to recycle stuff back then...

[vicsmith]

Ooooh, Taunus. In brown. Classy.

 

Does anyone else think the Taunus looks like the mkIII Cortina AND the mkIV, at the same time?

 

Just me, then..

Definately agree, pretty much a cross between the two to look at.

 

Incidentally, anyone ever come across this? `90s Taunus from Turkey:

 

 

 

Rear view reminds me of the run-out Orion Equippe a bit.

 

That Clubtaunus site is a bit of an eye opener actually, all sorts of weird things on there.

[The Blue Lumiere!]

I quite like that. That would look like a bit of a brute if it's wheels and it's tail pipe weren't so comically small.....

[Mr Lobster]

Thats an interesting looking thing isn't it. Definately has a look of the Orion from the back end.

[fotorabia]

i had a 1968 17M Taunus Turnier V4 in Berlin back in 93..it was free..amazingly it had a MOT..was so bogged the wings were different shapes and had been handpainted red..bench seats..2dr estate.. it would cruise at 100mph..it got nicked out of a field just out of Munich after the boys ran out of gas..i found this one in Wellington a few years back..the ol boy only wanted $1000 for it..was the only one in NZ...but due to living on the beach n no garage i couldnt buy it...

and the roofs not rusty..thats fish oil...

[sierravanman]

This may be complete bollocks - but following on from the Mk1/Mk2 Escort estate and van comments - I'm pretty sure that the Mk4 Cortina estate is just a Mk3 Taunus from the windscreen back. Ford did like to recycle stuff back then...

Thats not bollocks...its true ...a Mk4/5 Cortina estate is in fact a Taunus 1 estate shell from 1970 on.This brown Taunus is a Taunus 1 (not a Mk3,a 3 is a Mk5 Cortina),1300 ohc must be from Italy originally.Well spotted...where is it ?

[mk2_craig]

 

Looks like the back bumper's on upside down doesn't it! This must be in contention for "Most Posted Car on A-S", been Ebay-spotted at least twice of late and clocked at a car show recently too

[The Blue Lumiere!]

1300 ohc? Do you mean Pinto engines? Can't be many of them, anywhere. They DO happen, though.

 

When I was working as a mechanic, around 1990, we took in a Sierra to fit a timing belt to it. It was badged 'L'. We took it be a 1600. When the belt we ordered didn't fit, we wondered 'Could it be a 2.0? Surely not?' I drove the car in question up to the factors, to get another belt. While doing so I could feel that it was definitely not a 2 litre.

We were amazed, after checking the engine number, to find it was a 1300cc Pinto.

What in the name of god is the point of that? The 1600 wasn't even really up to the task of hauling a motor the size of a Sierra.

 

I remember (though I never met one) that Capris could be had with 1300cc engines. Were they Pintos? Or were they Essex crossflows? Whatever they were it can't have been much of a 'pin you to the seat' experience

[wuvvum]

I'm pretty sure the 1300 Capris had crossflows. At least the UK market ones did. Ford's engine policy was bizarre for quite some time - at one point in the early '80s they had three different 1.6-litre inline petrol four-pots on the go at the same time: the Kent in the XR2 Mk1, the CVH in the Escort Mk3 and the Pinto in the Sierra. For the company that more or less invented economies of scale it was a bit of a strange approach...

[mk2_craig]

Wasn't the Kent something to do with using up leftover stocks of cylinder blocks after Ford pulled the Fiesta from the US market? They did of course wang the CVH in from 1984 onwards, had they done that in 1981 when the XR2 was launched the sales of Escort XR3s would doubtless have never got off the ground...

[Richard]

When I read about the 1300 Pinto in the Haynes manual I thought "they've got that wrong surely". It wasn't until a 1300 Sierra turned up on here that I was convinced. The situation Wuvvum mentioned with 1600 engines was mirrored with 1300 engines.Capris and Cortinas had the old Crossflow 1.3 engine. Somebody once told me that a Crossflow to Pinto conversion involved wiring modifications because the engines had their electrics on opposite sides. Maybe it was easier to make a 1300 Pinto engine than to make two different wiring harnesses, though you do have to wonder why they bothered with a 1.3 at all.

[Ratdat]

When I first passed my test, my dad had a mk4 Cortina which was originally a 1.6 auto. When the engine died he got hold of a cheap engine which turned out to be a 1.3 Pinto. Attached to the auto it probably wasn't exactly thrilling to drive but as it was the first car I drove after passing my test I didn't mind at all. That engine came from a Taunus.

[r.welfare]

What seems bizarre to me is that the Mk4 & 5 Cortinas stayed with the 1300 Kent, and only with the advent of the Sierra did the 1300 Pinto appear - and even then, for 3 years at most in this country. I have only ever seen one, which is surprising given they probably don't move quickly with only 57bhp They can't have sold many. Giveaway was the "Sierra L" badging (rather than "1.6L").A Mk2 1300 Cavalier with 75bhp must have felt like Thrust 2 in comparison. Now, a 1300 Montego I have seen - my dad's mate used to own one, in that lovely beige and a base model with naked steel wheels (with odd holes around the edge IIRC) on a B-plate. Makes you wonder why Vauxhall and Peugeot continued with small-capacity (1.4) engines in the Cavalier and 405 right up to '93 or so - I've never, ever seen a 1.4 405 either.I'm pretty sure Ford dropped the 1300 (Kent-engined) Capper in '82, just before they pruned the whole range down to only 3 models - 1.6LS, 2.0S & 2.8i. Bet it was bought solely by retirees.Didn't Ford also produce an "E-Max" version of the 1.6 Pinto in the early 80's, that was substantially different to the original, as well? I make that 4 different types. And the 1.8 was changed from Pinto to CVH (or vice versa) in the Sierra at some point as well...

[Spottedlaurel]

I had a friend with a LHD Cortina Mk5 (Taunus I suppose it must've been) fitted with 1.3 Pinto, wasn't horrendously slow as I recall. Reputedly the heads off them were good to stick on the bigger capacity Pinto lumps, and therefore banned in stock car racing.I sometimes used to get lifts in a 1.3 Cavalier Mk2, seemed fairly sprightly. Another friend had a Montego 1.3 as a company car, again it didn't seem that bad. But back then, cars were a lot lighter...I guess the 1.4 thing was because there was a tax break of some sort for cars under that capacity (not on the tax disc, was either on purchase or as a company car?).

[vicsmith]

The Cavalier Mk3 1.4 was only introduced on 92(K), and as far as I know was fairly well received, good on fuel and not much slower than the 1.6, which was itself surprisingly quick.

[r.welfare]

The fuel allowances were/are set with engine size thresholds of 1400cc and 2-litres. I can't remember the "old" company car rules (other than the pre-CO2 system was based on the number of business miles you did), but I seem to recall the scramble to produce 1.8-litre engines in the early/mid 80s was down to Thatcher's government setting a new tax break.Interesting on the 1.4 Cav Vic, I thought it was introduced with the Mk3 launch in '88 and dropped at the facelift stage in '92...pretty sure I have an Autocar from early '89 with a roadtest somewhere...I seem to recall the Mk3 Cav 1.6 was detuned in comparison to the Mk2 1.6 (82bhp vs 90bhp); certainly when I had both back-to-back the Mk2 felt sprightlier, mind you it didn't have any emissions gubbins on it.I can't find anything on the 1.4 405 as Parker's now consider it too old to feature on their website - in fact, they don't even ascribe any value to a petrol 405 saloon now...

[alfetta]

europe had 1.1 CVH engines in the scort....

[sierravanman]

europe had 1.1 CVH engines in the scort....

Blanket advance apology...gratuitous anorakking to follow...Indeed Europe did have 1100 cvhs...you could also choose a 950 crossflow for your Escort 1 or 2All Taunus 1,2 and 3 used the Pinto 1300...crossflows were never available.....especially popular for the likes of France etc where you got clobbered for owning a big engine,either for import duty or road tax or both....which is probably where all the (Pinto) 1600cc Mk2 Grannies went,although that must have been an improvement on the 1.7 V4 fitted in a Mk1.Crapis kicked off with the either a 1300 crossflow or a 1300 V4 as least displacement option...didn't get the Pinto 1.3 till later on.Unless I'm hugely mistaken (always a possibility)a Mk3 Cortina could be had with an 1100 crossflow...but not here,probably for export only to those markets deemed not clever enough to handle the complexities of an overhead camshaft.

[r.welfare]

One or two 1.1CVH Mk3 Scrotes slipped through the net to end up here - sounds like they may have been RHD personal imports (which were all the rage in 1982/83) rather than UK market cars.A one-six Mk2 Granada sounds like a grim experience, although probably still a road rocket compared to the 2.1D.

[sierravanman]

.A one-six Mk2 Granada sounds like a grim experience, although probably still a road rocket compared to the 2.1D.

Absolutely ! The only thing slower than my 1.8TD...with of course all the aerodynamic qualities of a fridge freezer with the door open

[mk2_craig]

One or two 1.1CVH Mk3 Scrotes slipped through the net to end up here - sounds like they may have been RHD personal imports (which were all the rage in 1982/83) rather than UK market cars.

Circa 1996/7 I knew someone with a 1.1 CVH Escort van which would have been about 1982 vintage, lord knows its origin though. I believe that these, unlike the Ford OHV engine, were actually sub 1100cc.On the subject of 1400 Cavaliers, a friend's father bought one of these new in 1989 (tightarse!!), about 6 months after the mk3 launch. Notable for its Astra style wheeltrims, which of course lasted a matter of weeks before systematically rolling into assorted verges.

[Albert Ross]

I have my sights set on a B plate 3 door 1300 Pinto Sierra. Shush, he might hear me typing, lives just across the park from me.On the subject of odd cc CVH motors, I always fancied doing a 1300 RS Turbo van, with shorter stroke rods, and 1600 pistons, it would rev higher ( approx 9500 rpm) wouldn't that piss a few people off!I have a 1989 CVH Sierra. my first, and it's doing about 31mpg around town, about the same as my 2 year old Focus............Pintos are weird in Sierras. 1300, 1600 LCT, 1600 LSD, 1800 REB, and 2000 NEA engine codes. The 1300 and LCT shared a crank, while all the others used the 2 litre crank, with bore changes. I believe the standard Pinto crank weighs in at 27 kg, making it a very light but strong unit. I'd love to slap a 2.1 under the bonnet of the Sapphire of mine........Pair of DCOE's, decent exhaust, XR4 brakes all round, and fat steels with big rubber. Mmmmmm