Dare I mention....Top Gear....?

[ashmicro]

I saw an F1 in a petrol station a couple of years ago - had no idea they were worth so much cash now!

Bloody amazing car. A colleague of mine was driving to Monte Danto (nr. Bologna IIRC) in his 164 3 litre to see his folks a number of years ago, in the dark, and thought he was being chased by a Crapi. Twas a Macca.If Italians get hot under the collar about a car that's not Italian, it must be special.

[RedSparrow]

My word!For those who didn't see it,They shot an Evo 8 to pieces tonight, Im sure that upset a large proportion of their core audience!Or maybe it was to say 'hey, we don't just smash up BL stuff...'?!

[trigger]

I thought it was a really good episode.So they shot and crushed a Evo, At least it was a car due to be scrapped as it was a drug dealers car rather then a good, MOT classic being smashed up.Just been on another forum where people are moaning about the Evo and as much as it's a shame to see a good car get crushed, It's no different to the scrapage scheme the government have brought in.

[Guest]

Almost as satisfying as the chavved-up Impreza I saw embedded in a wall yesterday evening.

[dollywobbler]

I don't like to see any car trashed. I was already feeling a bit weepy after James May did a piece to camera in front of the trashed Sailing Herald. That said, I went shite camping in the Bedford last night and it leaks, so I'm clearly feeling over-emotional.Sniff.

[pompei]

I can't see what the fuss is about - there's no point in blaming TG for wrecking a car that the courts had decreed was to be cubed anyway. It's not as though it could have been saved.

[brammy777]

exactly, after all the judge had ordered it to be destroyed.

And it was a drug dealers car too, obviously not the cars fault, but theres better evos out there.

Ive seen a few with 900bhp.

The turbo lag on that one in TG was ridiculous anyway.

i just want this:

[retrogeezer]

I thought that was the worst episode in a long time....pointless comparisons between Focus/stripped out Megane, pointless race between car & letter and then a pointless chase thing with the evo at the end.I know most of it is usually pointless but just didn't find it entertainingly pointless this week.

[brammy777]

Not entirely pointless, its merely a comparison between two hot hatches, one being mostly a regular car with all the toys, the other stripped out, and more for the racetrack.2 different breeds of hot hatch, although maybe a comparison with a car like the focus would have been better.However Hammond is beginning to annoy me. I usually like him, but i dont know, hes going funny. laurence llewelyn bowen anyone?

[Mr H Sceptre]

Yeah, something isnt quite right with Hammond. Ever since is big accident someting just hasnt appeared right with the bloke. Plus he's starting to spread himself a a bit thin now - kids TV etc etc

[Father Ted]

Talking of childrens TV - some ace chod on Chucklevision this morne including a 1976 3 wheel milk float and a Pug 505 estate.

[retrogeezer]

2 different breeds of hot hatch, although maybe a comparison with a car like the focus would have been better.

Thats exactly why it was pointless.....a prospective buyer of the Focus would not be looking at what is essentially a track day car as an alternative and vice-versa.

[dollywobbler]

It was a weak one. PLUG how good the Royal Mail is. PLUG how 'cool' it is to be in the army. Drive some tarted up hot hatches and claim "they cost the same as a family hatchback." Really? £25 for a run-of-the-mill Focus? Methinks not. Last week's left me going 'wow' at the rally car footage. So much so that I hunted it down on t'interweb to watch again. I already don't care about last night. Rubbish.

[pogweasel]

Hey, let them plug away, we always need moar postmen (for when the others are on strike) and moar soldiers (cos they keep getting killed etc)

[Mr Lobster]

I've sort of given up watching TG now. Not cos of the whole car destruction thing but just because it's sometimes not that great really. Sometimes they get it absolutely right - the first episode of the series with the train/Jag/bike race was very good and watched on iplayer, the rest I haven't bothered with. I don't have a huge amount of spare time to sit in front of the tv so will only watch something if it looks like it'll be really good. And TG isn't in that category at the moment.

[Pete-M]

I love Top Gear to bits.This week wasn't the strongest episode, but it still had some great bits in it. I want one of those Porsches, and I'd love to race a letter from Cornwall to the Highlands. Blowing up the Evo was a bit weak but it's better than sending it to the crusher.The thing I really love about Top Gear is that every time they do anything the same bunch pop up on forums everywhere saying how lame / weak / childish it is, and how William Woolard made it interesting. How TG never do enough articles on Kingpins or cost-effective sill replacement on a Marina TC. Fuck off.I love cars. I'm an incurable petrolhead. Woolard was shite. Clarkson, Hammond and May have the three best jobs in the motoring world. I want their job more than any other, and if I had it I'd be blowing up MGBs like there's no tomorrow. You know the way you can only fold paper in half 7 times (most of the time) I'd love to see if that's possible with an MGC.TG is entertainment that involves cars. Why do people take it so seriously? It's fun. If I want to know about the handling characteristics of a half laden Toyota Corolla D4D I certainly don't want to hear about it on a Sunday night when I'm chilling out in front of the telly. 2 minutes in WHS will tell me all I need to know about the Corolla. On a Sunday night I want to watch someone powersliding a hugely expensive hypercar, or racing said hypercar against a goat across the Andes. I want to see the Stig giving it beans in the latest Fadgemagnet V14. I want to see caravans destroyed. I want to see what idiocy they get up to. I don't want to watch some bearded, cardigan wearing nonce talking about the glovebox capacity of the 2009 Kia Spacemong.

[seth]

Nicely said Pete.

[Mr Lobster]

Nicely said Pete.

Indeed. When Top Gear is good, it's very good. When they do a good feature its just incredibly good telly and some of the camera work is superb. Its just escapism, last nights didn't look that great so I didn't bother which seems like the right decision. The 'old' Top Gear was bloody awful and ended for a reason. And I don't think theres many people who wouldn't love JC / JM / RH's job!

[Guest]

If I was the gaffer of Top Gear it'd just be loads of dramatic shots of Daewoo Esperos, some slow motion ones, driving around, clouds reflecting off the bonnet, brakelights coming on, taking a corner, etc. Then there'd be an interview with someone from Bertone in which they explain how they made the styling so crisp. This would be topped off with a three-way race between 1.5, 1.8 and 2.0 models and a full round-up of the specification on each.Then I'd catapult a Veyron and a Zonda into the sea.

[dollywobbler]

Hey, I never said that I preferred it in the old days - just that last night was a bit lame. TG used to be essential viewing but the past two series have been real 'don't cry if you miss it' stuff.Mind you, that's probably because the only one I want to watch this series is the classic Rally in Mallorca for some Citroen Ami bodyroll action...

[Pete-M]

Hey, I never said that I preferred it in the old days - just that last night was a bit lame. TG used to be essential viewing but the past two series have been real 'don't cry if you miss it' stuff.Mind you, that's probably because the only one I want to watch this series is the classic Rally in Mallorca for some Citroen Ami bodyroll action...

Heh, the bearded kingpin fondling nonces tend to be on other Forums. This is Autoshite Any forum that introduces me to grumpycunt.com has to be a good place.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

If I was the gaffer of Top Gear it'd just be loads of dramatic shots of Daewoo Esperos, some slow motion ones, driving around, clouds reflecting off the bonnet, brakelights coming on, taking a corner, etc. Then there'd be an interview with someone from Bertone in which they explain how they made the styling so crisp. This would be topped off with a three-way race between 1.5, 1.8 and 2.0 models and a full round-up of the specification on each.Then I'd catapult a Veyron and a Zonda into the sea.

I would watch this (on Iplayer of course, not spending potental shite-buying coins on a TV licence)!

[Guest]

 

Uh oh!

[michiel]

Well filmed entertainment, nice music sometimes, and some carbased slapstick that shouldn't make me laugh but it does now and then... but I haven't seen yesterdays episode yet.I want to see Clarkson on Hammond race the Stig on May round the track.

[andrew e]

Then there'd be an interview with someone from Bertone in which they explain how they made the styling so crisp..

Well Hirst, White Lightning & Skol were BOGOF in my local Turinese CO-OP so I boshed a 100,000 Lira note over the counter and screamed LOAD MY ITAL WAGON* and I'll have a one of the 4 colour BIC retractables.

*That I bought to piss off Ital design who are at the other end of my cul-de-sac.

[FredTransit]

If I was the gaffer of Top Gear it'd just be loads of dramatic shots of Daewoo Esperos, some slow motion ones, driving around, clouds reflecting off the bonnet, brakelights coming on, taking a corner, etc. Then there'd be an interview with someone from Bertone in which they explain how they made the styling so crisp. This would be topped off with a three-way race between 1.5, 1.8 and 2.0 models and a full round-up of the specification on each.Then I'd catapult a Veyron and a Zonda into the sea.

I would watch this (on Iplayer of course, not spending potental shite-buying coins on a TV licence)!

Hate to tell you this, but you need a TV license to watch it online too. Why do you think they ask you if you have an internet enabled computer?http://tvlicensing.metafaq.com/template ... 2U2RTQHCRM

Do I need a TV Licence if I only watch programmes online?It makes no difference how you watch TV - whether it's on your laptop, PC or mobile phone or through a digital box, DVD recorder or TV set - if you use any device to watch or record television programmes at the same time (or virtually the same time) as they're being shown on TV, the law requires you to be covered by a TV Licence. This type of TV is often described as "live" TV or simulcasting.Examples of websites that allow you to watch television programmes as they are being shown on TV are:BBC (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/playlive/)ITV (http://www.itv.com/)Sky (http://skyplayer.sky.com/vod/page/default/home.do)There are a number of other websites that also offer this service. If you use any of these websites you will need to be covered by a TV Licence.

[Guest]

Hey now! The Espero is genuinely beautiful, I could look at the back end of one for absolutely yonks.

[pogweasel]

That implies though that if you choose to watch TG on iPlayer at 3.30pm on a wednesday (i.e. NOT when it's being shown on BBC2) you don't need a license.

[Mr Lobster]

Hate to tell you this, but you need a TV license to watch it online too. Why do you think they ask you if you have an internet enabled computer?

Only if you watch it 'live' though. If you watch the programme a couple of hours after it's first shown then you don't need a licence AFAIK.

[CortinaDave]

Actually by law you don't need one to watch online at the moment.. they are trying to force it through so that you do though.The sticking point is that the Beeb are saying you need a TV licence if you are connected to the internet at all which there has been a lot of opposition toThey will chance their arm to get you to pay meantime even though they cant enforce it.Its like the PRS muppets who are ringing round shops/workplaces and forcing them to pay for a PRS licence to listen to the radio at work, even though the radio stations have already paid, and its a legally very grey area