He simply did not hear, see or feel anything

[Peter C]

From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lanc ... 162158.stm

 

"He simply did not hear anything, see anything, or feel anything"

 

Check it out. Madness!

[Jack_Harpers_Teeth]

Eeeeeeee British Justice the envy of the World eh?

[fordpoplier]

From: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lanc ... 162158.stm"He simply did not hear anything, see anything, or feel anything"Check it out. Madness!

[who]"Tommy doesn't know what day it is"[/who]

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Hey, give 'british justice' a break, that teacher who brained a pupil with a dumb-bell got a suspended sentence, which sounds like a lot of sense to me. Its one in the eye for obnoxious kids and their nobhead 'he's a good kid really' parents.'Yeah he did bash the lad with a dumbell while yelling 'die! die!', but to be fair the lad was a gobby tw@t and deserved it. So no need to send anyone to prison, just get our man a bit of therapy. case dismissed!' Stuff like that sends a wave of cheer right through me I find.

[M'coli]

So the Clio driver didn't give way to the lorry, who was already on the motorway, and in the correct lane. The lorry driver's not the one at fault for the collision, but he won't be the last person who'll be expected to give way to someone coming onto a motorway.

[garethj]

Hey, give 'british justice' a break, that teacher who brained a pupil with a dumb-bell got a suspended sentence, which sounds like a lot of sense to me. Its one in the eye for obnoxious kids and their nobhead 'he's a good kid really' parents.'Yeah he did bash the lad with a dumbell while yelling 'die! die!', but to be fair the lad was a gobby tw@t and deserved it. So no need to send anyone to prison, just get our man a bit of therapy. case dismissed!' Stuff like that sends a wave of cheer right through me I find.

When I'm president, Mr_B is going to be Lord Chief Justice at the very least.

[D113]

m'Coli's right, the Clio should have watched out and its totally understandable that the lorry driver didnt notice the impact, cabs are often suspended seperately from the rest of the truck as far as im aware so the impact wuld have been absorbed etc. etc. its a miracle that it didnt end up worse but i totally agree that taking his license away would have been stupid.

[Cheggers]

Never mind seeing or hearing the Clio...the smell of shit & tyre smoke must have been eye-watering

[M'coli]

Never mind seeing or hearing the Clio...the smell of shit & tyre smoke must have been eye-watering

You get used to both those smells around here, so it'd have been nowt unusual!!!

[Peter C]

Never mind seeing or hearing the Clio...the smell of shit & tyre smoke must have been eye-watering

Excellent!

[FredTransit]

it's refreshing for the law not to go off on a lorry driver bashing mission.http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/lanc ... 162158.stm

The lorry driver, John Tomlinson from Lancashire, appeared before North West Traffic Commissioner Beverley Bell.She told him he could retain his LGV driving licence because he could not see, hear or smell the car.At the hearing at the Traffic Area Office in Warrington, Cheshire, Ms Bell praised Mr Tomlinson's coolness and "clear head" on discovering the Clio attached to his lorry.

[retrogeezer]

Yeh, thats the right decision as far as I can see. As has been said before, it's hardly likely the truck driver would have done it on purpose and the fact the Clio driver was joining the motorway backs this up. Obviously it's a pov spec clio with no mirrors and the driver has a neck problem meaning they couldn't check the motorway was clear before joining.

[seth]

He tried to free her but the door was jammed so he reversed his tanker about 3ft (91cm) to release the car.

Am I the only one who rolled his eyes at the BBC's need to accurately convert the units

[retrogeezer]

or thought that it was hardly heroic?? Reversing 3 feet?? I mean whats the big deal? And what was wrong with the passenger door then?

[Louise2cv]

Also was the door jammed, or was there a lorry pushing against it?

[Station]

Fair enough, he didn't 'sense' the vehicle. If this was treated as a normal road traffic offence and not some crazy H&S criminal offence, he would've got 6 points at least. If I 'didn't see, hear or smell' an old lady trapped wailing under my car going down a dual carriageway, I'd lose my license, even after a 'heroic act' of prizing her out with a broom handle, even if I was 'inconsolable' and in tears. When it comes to road traffic offences, 'ignorance is no excuse', or to put it simpler/nicer, 'not knowing is no excuse'.

[Lacy]

Not quite true.......In Road Traffic law, it is a defence to failing to stop/report a collision if you were unaware that a collision has taken place. Whether or not you were, or should have been aware would be subject to a reasonableness test.

[Richard]

I hope the Clio driver lost her licence, or at least had to beg to keep it.

 

Wasn't this all done and dusted until the media got hold of it?

[Guest]

Did the Clio woman get any points/fine for undertaking? Or using her phone whilst driving?

[Owain-328i]

Hey, give 'british justice' a break, that teacher who brained a pupil with a dumb-bell got a suspended sentence, which sounds like a lot of sense to me. Its one in the eye for obnoxious kids and their nobhead 'he's a good kid really' parents.

 

'Yeah he did bash the lad with a dumbell while yelling 'die! die!', but to be fair the lad was a gobby tw@t and deserved it. So no need to send anyone to prison, just get our man a bit of therapy. case dismissed!' Stuff like that sends a wave of cheer right through me I find.

Fully agree with this, i dont think im that old at 27, and i can remember getting thrashings off primary school teachers back in the day, never did us any harm

[Lankytim]

Im sure if the lorry driver had seen the Clio, he would have stopped. If hes a short arse theres every chance he wouldnt have been able to see it over the dashboard. The traffic comissioner (who are known for being harsh bastards) certainly thought he wasn't to blame. Reversing on the hard shoulder is a 3 point offence, however.

 

Im sure the driver of the Clio was able to see the lorry at all times, or would have done had she looked where the fuck she was going. Is she going to be prosecuted for dangerous driving? Probably not.

[Pillock]

Hey, give 'british justice' a break, that teacher who brained a pupil with a dumb-bell got a suspended sentence, which sounds like a lot of sense to me. Its one in the eye for obnoxious kids and their nobhead 'he's a good kid really' parents.

 

'Yeah he did bash the lad with a dumbell while yelling 'die! die!', but to be fair the lad was a gobby tw@t and deserved it. So no need to send anyone to prison, just get our man a bit of therapy. case dismissed!' Stuff like that sends a wave of cheer right through me I find.

Fully agree with this, i dont think im that old at 27, and i can remember getting thrashings off primary school teachers back in the day, never did us any harm

That's one of my local schools. Having had the pleasure of seeing a lot of these kids in action in town after (or during...) school, I can honestly say there aren't enough dumbells in the world.

 

I'm led to believe he wasn't a "good kid really", he was a complete prick who was put on this earth to be given a good shoeing at some point for pushing the wrong person too far. Hopefully he will have learnt his lesson (maybe the dent in his head is a reminder) and will behave now.