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Greetings all.

 

After lurking here for a short while, frankly liking what I see and enjoying the various shite, the site has well and truly struck a chord with me. I'm a serial buyer of ropey sub £1k vehicles, don't have to but genuinely enjoy it.

 

I feel like I might (Just might) have found my 'spiritual' home here :shock:

 

I've been posting across the web on owner specific forums (Usually using either my JoeyEunos or RandomPrecion handles) for a while now, but from here-on-in I will pull my threads together and merge them here into one ghastly topic.

 

My current steeds...

 

Lupo 1.7 SDI

 

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and the work/story so far...http://forums.clublupo.co.uk/index.php?/topic/102863-joeyeunoss-sdi-beater/

 

Golf Mk4 SDI

 

 

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and the thread.... http://uk-mkivs.net/topic/597074-project-slow/

 

Early (1989) Mk1 Eunos (This one was recently sold)

 

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the thread...http://www.mx5nutz.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=213274

 

Other shite I've owned and moved on in the last year include this ropey Passat...

 

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and this legendary £300 Fiesta Finesse...

 

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Cars I'd like to own/actively looking for in the forthcoming weeks/months/years...

 

Rover 75 (Dizzler)

Peugeot 405 (XUD)

Mk1 Octavia (Estate/dizzler, pre pd or SDI)

Honda CRV (Gen1)

Volvo 240/850

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That's a nice little wanted list, welcome. I'm sure you'll have plenty of people urging you to take on a 75 or Volvo especially, they seem to change hands on here like currency. 405s are trickier since they're clearly all worth north of £3000 now.....

 

Lupo is a tidy little thing, what sort of performance do you get from the 1.7 SDI? My eldest is going to need a car soon and I've just remembered these exist.

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That's a nice little wanted list, welcome. I'm sure you'll have plenty of people urging you to take on a 75 or Volvo especially, they seem to change hands on here like currency. 405s are trickier since they're clearly all worth north of £3000 now.....

 

Lupo is a tidy little thing, what sort of performance do you get from the 1.7 SDI? My eldest is going to need a car soon and I've just remembered these exist.

 

75 or Volvo would be lovely, I noticed both seem to have a strong fan base here which is nice.

 

I spotted the 405 thread and I too am now aware that they are a bona fide classic, out of reach for the most part but it's still important to have dream right?

 

Thanks for the kind words RE the Lupo. It's quite possibly the cheapest car in the world to run. £30 a year to tax if you get one post 2001, pennies to insure, simple to maintain and dirt cheap to buy. 60+mpg round the doors is easily achievable and over 70mpg on a run is not unusual. Only real downsides are 'relaxed' (Read slow) acceleration and slightly weak gearboxes, problems that dog the whole SDI range TBH.

 

It's worth looking at Arosa SDI's too as they're basically the same thing.

 

 

Don't see a Carina II in your chod haul :(

 

.... glad you like it on here... It's why we're here :)

 

 

TS

 

Whilst I am something of a masochist and I do enjoy motoring at the bottom of the food chain I'm simply not prepared to sink to that level yet...

 

All that being said I've got many shite buying years left in me and it's always good to have something to work towards. Maybe I'll give them some thought once I've finally hit rock bottom.

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You've got my beard thoroughly twitching with the SDI VAG threads you've posted up.  A lot of it relevant to my old TDI...

 

HTH

 

 

Welcome Joey, with a current fleet and wish list like yours I am pretty certain you'll be at home here!

 

I like your Lupo too

 

Thank you.

 

 

Hey, good to have you along - always nice to see a lurker become a regular (yeah, I did that too). That's an impressive fleet you've got going there - and rather unexpectedly, it's the Lupo getting me in a lather...

 

Look forward to hearing more!

 

 

Hey, good to have you along - always nice to see a lurker become a regular (yeah, I did that too). That's an impressive fleet you've got going there - and rather unexpectedly, it's the Lupo getting me in a lather...

 

Look forward to hearing more!

 

 

Cheers. Yes, the Lupo is a lovely thing.

 

 

You'll fit in fine here mate, good list of choddage in your possession right now, and your want list is equally impressive.

 

Many thanks.

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75 or Volvo would be lovely, I noticed both seem to have a strong fan base here which is nice.

 

I spotted the 405 thread and I too am now aware that they are a bona fide classic, out of reach for the most part but it's still important to have dream right?

 

Thanks for the kind words RE the Lupo. It's quite possibly the cheapest car in the world to run. £30 a year to tax if you get one post 2001, pennies to insure, simple to maintain and dirt cheap to buy. 60+mpg round the doors is easily achievable and over 70mpg on a run is not unusual. Only real downsides are 'relaxed' (Read slow) acceleration and slightly weak gearboxes, problems that dog the whole SDI range TBH.

 

It's worth looking at Arosa SDI's too as they're basically the same thing.

 

 

I think despite 405s being the best car in the world and the only car anyone will ever need (copyright Junkman), the £3000 ones are still rare on the ground so it's worth keeping an eye out ;)

 

I reckon a Lupo with a duff box sounds a perfect first car, I'm just about capable of slinging a new box on one of those. And relaxed acceleration is perfect for an 18 year old getting bullied into driving to McDonalds by her mates every night! Might even stab some holes in various vacuum pipes to further cripple the speed.

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I reckon a Lupo with a duff box sounds a perfect first car, I'm just about capable of slinging a new box on one of those. And relaxed acceleration is perfect for an 18 year old getting bullied into driving to McDonalds by her mates every night! Might even stab some holes in various vacuum pipes to further cripple the speed.

 

LOL is a term that get's banded about far too often these days, I'm pretty jaded but that genuinely did raise a chuckle :)

 

 

I'd still recommend a decent 405 if you can find one. If you don't mind one that looks like varied shades of sucked smartie there's an estate for sale at the mo for £350.

 

 

 

Tell me more....

 

 

 

 

Is there a mileage the Lupo's tend to spit boxes?

 

Not really, it's all down to gearbox oil (Or lack-thereof) IMO.

 

They pretty much all leak through the selector shaft seal and that causes the issues. Replace the seal and keep the box topped up with the correct G50 gear oil and you stand a much better chance of avoiding 'box related woes.

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https://www.gumtree.com/p/peugeot/405-turbo-diesel.-£350.00-ono/1293718702

 

Sorry, just realised I hadn't provided the link to this.

 

Thanks, miles away and not the NA derv model of my dreams but still very fetching.

 

 

A fine fleet Sir. Those Lupai (plural of lupo) have always intrigued me with that engine. What is real world economy like?

 

Thanks :)

 

60-70mpg is achievable without trying. I've had approaching 80mpg after a long run involving hyper-mileing techniques (Measured brim to brim).

 

Be warned, a Lupo SDI is the kind of car that will eventually turn you into someone who's proud to be driving in the slow lane of the A1 at 55 mph.

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A bit closer but not a NAD I'm afraid. Advertised as "old barge is finished in Never Gonna Sell It Dark Blue with sumptuous black leather upholstery". Not proper Autoshite as it will be fully loaded with toys except appears to be lacking electric seats. Not immediately evident but the rear sill has gone in the typical spot on one of these and has been fairly well omitted on photos and description.

 

https://www.classiccarsforsale.co.uk/peugeot/405/257044

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Today I have been mostly servicing VAG shite.

 

Starting with an oil change for the Golf...

 

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I tend to use the Pela 6000 for most changes these days, TBH it seems to get just as much if not more out than a traditional change, it seems able to get right to the bottom of the sump and also hoover out the filter housing.

 

Oil used is 'proper' Quantum Platinum 5W40 synth. The SDI's will happily run on 10W40 if needed but given the quantum PD rated stuff is just over £12.50 for 5l from TPS it's a false economy to use anything else. It's way over spec but for that price, why not?

 

Bags of room to work in the engine bay without any turbo related nonsense getting in the way...

 

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Air and fuel filters were done last spring on this one (Once every 2 years on these) so time to move on to the Lupo...

 

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Again, Pela 6000 and Quantum oil FTW :)

 

Lupo engine bay slightly more cramped than the Golf, probably the busuiest engine bay of the whole SDI range actually, but still plenty of room....

 

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Sexy new fuel filter fitted :-D  No lift pump so these need to be properly primed to work....

 

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And then air filter....

 

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People seem to have this idea that German folk don't have a sense of humour, they obviously haven't seen the location for the air filter on a Lupo SDI :?  Hint: You need a jack, stands and a selection of swivel bits and extensions to get to it. Not for the faint hearted.

 

After this the brakes/bushes/boots etc are given a look over then on to gearbox oil top offs.

 

Gearboxes are the weak point of the entire SDI range. They were all intended to run on VW's 'G50' oil but if you call VW they will direct you to G60 and tell you it's superseded the old stuff.

 

The problem is the newer oil is much thinner (Emissions related?) and not much use. The good news is that you can still get the correct stuff, I've found that if you ask for it by name they tend to look blankly at you or pretend it doesn't exist, but give them the part number they'll reluctantly order you some from the remaining stock in mainland Europe.

 

The amber nectar, coupled with the magic key for gearbox entry...

 

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Level plug for the Lupo, nice and easy to get to...

 

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The Lupo uses an 085 gearbox, a very old design mostly intended for non derv variants, keep the oil level right and the seals in good shape to avoid leaks and they're not as bad as people would have you believe.

 

And on to the Golf, access is even easier here...

 

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In similar fashion to the Lupo, the Golf uses a gearbox with ancient origins. The 02K box is pretty much identical to the old 020 gearboxes that VW have used since the seventies, only adapted to use a hydraulic clutch. Again this box is usually used in petrol variants, and they're not too bad but nowhere near as strong as the boxes bestowed on TDI models.

 

Last but not least is a bottle of injector cleaner (Snake oil?) straight into the tank for the Lupo on the basis of it being used for mostly tow work/short runs, seems wo work but who knows...

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The final, crucial step is to celebrate by quaffing a selection of fine ales, eating this imported sausage thing coupled with a selection of soft cheeses.

 

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I'm curious about priming the fuel filter.

 

I changed mine on my PD130 TDI two days ago and it started up after a few seconds of cranking.  Assuming the fuel pump just had to fill the filter again and it's all go.  Is it different between the SDI and TDI in this regard?  Looks like the same filter.

 

Also, what's the spec on the flexible fuel line to and from the filter?  Asking because mine could probably do with changing in due course, it's a little more worn than I'd like...

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Yes, if you have a PD engine the filter is the same but the lift pump in the tank that will fill up the filter when you crank the car (Lucky devil)

 

Not so with VE/SDI models unfortunately, funnels and diesel in a jerry can are required to prime.

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Yes, if you have a PD engine the filter is the same but the lift pump in the tank that will fill up the filter when you crank the car (Lucky devil)

 

Not so with VE/SDI models unfortunately, funnels and diesel in a jerry can are required to prime.

 

Aha!  That explains it.  I forgot to get a new jerry can (haven't one since I got my Golf) and realised after I'd changed the filter and given it my neighbour (who was doing his at the same time!) for disposal...

 

I like my PD130, it's a bit naughty but I'm always thrilled to see an SDI.  Your's will be running by the next Ice Age, I'm sure...

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It takes an ice age to get anywhere in one.

 

Actually that's slightly unfair, once they're 'on the boil' they're ok and they sit a modern motorway speeds without any dramas but dual carriageway slip roads pretty much always require full throttle and overtaking has to be planned long in advance :)

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It takes an ice age to get anywhere in one.

 

Actually that's slightly unfair, once they're 'on the boil' they're ok and they sit a modern motorway speeds without any dramas but dual carriageway slip roads pretty much always require full throttle and overtaking has to be planned long in advance :)

 

This thread reminds me that I've always wanted to try living on a canal boat...

 

My other half's Focus has a quoted 0-60 of 13.6 seconds.  I know how to live.

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  • 2 weeks later...

*Drum roll* New member introduced to the fleet today in the form of a late 940 estate in 2.3 low pressure turbo flavour.

 

Obligatory/generic stately home type pics en route to Casa Eunos...

 

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Initial impressions were good, some judder under hard braking quickly subsided after a few miles had been covered and had completely resolved after the 30 mile trip home. The car holds temperature well and all seems gravy.

 

Barely run in...

 

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Loads of history, original owners manuals and 3 keys!

 

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The car has bills to show it's had a new exhaust, distributer, leads, all filters including fuel, drive belts, fluids and waterpump replaced within the last year or so. It also has the factory dog guard/luggage cover etc. Weirdly absolutely everything seems to work including all of the clocks. All in all good craic.

 

Bonus finds that came with the car include various Volvo porn...

 

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Assorted road manuscripts of yore...

 

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And a Haynes book of lies...

 

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Not so good bits include this sunroof 'repair'...

 

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Woeful drivers seat...

 

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And peeling door cards...

 

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Other than the above niggles the passenger footwell is very wet indeed  :?  Never mind. The aforementioned boggles helped whittle the price down by a fair wedge and the car is currently airing out under the carport until I have the chance to investigate...

 

On the whole I'm very pleased. Spent the day pottering around in it running errands and at this stage (Including driving the car home) I've covered about 80 miles or so.

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      Well, I cobbled together a bar and a pair of molies but Christ, that was messing about! I wanted to secure the caliper to the mounting to hold it still but the sliders internal thread was cross threaded on both sliders, so I had to tap them out first. It worked but not without a fight. Then my neighbour came over to have a nose at the new aquisition... Him: Morning, how you getting on"?, Me: "Shit, you haven't got a brake caliper tool have you"? Him: "Yeah, I'll go get it". 
       
      LIFESAVER!!!
       

       
      Sticky slider syndrome ^
       

       
      Fully padded up ^
       
      I took a look around under there, it's nearly all shot. Most ball joints are exposed to the elements so all need replacing but not before a decent jet wash.
       

       

       
      There's little play in the joints so all that goes on the list of parts and graft! Wheels on, I loosened and torqued all the wheel nuts around the car and done the Tyre pressures, we were running soft all round.
       
      Next was the front lights. A screw mod can be done but I took the back off the units and they were, well toast. Nothing much holding the inner lenses still at all. There was only one thing for it...
       

       
      I had readied myself for this. I got hold of a replacement lamp mounting kit with all parts made from nylon. This involved dissecting the lamp which was tough! The mounts that came out, or what was left of them were weaker than Jacobs crackers and just crumbled. To get the bumper off, the plastic under tray bolts were all seized so I had to grind them off. More knackered parts were seen. The auto box cooler has shed most of it's cooling fins, the radiator is sweating and the power steering is hemorrhaging fluid on full lock. There's also a coolant leak at the thermostat housing and there's a high pitch whine at 1000 RPM which turns out to be the alternator. More for the list.
      Still, back to the lights. I need to be able to see tonight so I took a level off the tourings lights and marked on to a wheely bin, these are pretty spot on. Then I can use the bin for the Jaags lights and I won't be far off 
       

       
      Going back together nicely it was a good time to run some tcut over the faded lenses. They need a more intense compound and a machine but will do for now.
       

       
      Looks smart yo!
       
      Then it got dark...
       

       
      I then drove 120 miles in it and drove it like it was stolen. It had it, all of it! Slight brake judder at 90 and I couldn't get the alignment done as I had no time (see above pics)
       
      So now we have to price up priorities like the knackered joints on the rear and a full service, two Goodyears and investigate the power steering leak which, I'll hazard a guess at the rack seals are fubard. 
       
      So in summary, I got a bargain barge that has it's fair share of issues, the interior quality is a bit shocking in places but when the hammer is down, none of this matters! It fits in, it can be a proper giffer cruiser with radio two on at 30mph but it'll turn into a bruiser with some oldskool hardcore at a tonne. It's come to a good home.
    • By Tickman
      First some background:
      I was brought up with no car interest, a car was transport and nothing more which resulted in a selection of poor cheap cars being the cars of my youth.
       
      Fast forward many years (just over 9 years ago) and I have a wonderful* Vauxhall Vectra estate to carry us about. Unfortunately it is crap and throws fault codes at us with nothing being there when it is checked (even at Vauxhall)
       
      As Mrs T is the main pilot of this chariot with the two little miss T's on board, it has to go.
      The hunt is on for the new steed to safely and comfortably carry the family around. I have a company car at the time so big journeys are not an issue.
       
      ebay is my weapon of choice to find the new family car. It has to be good value cheap for no other reason than I am tight.
       
      Weeks of research with lots of cars that are too expensive and too far away for easy collection end up in my watch list.
      Finally a possible is spotted in Fife. I go and have a look and find a poor looking but solid car. One previous owner and lots of history.
       
      The auction was to end on the Saturday at midday, we were going to be out! I decided on how much I was willing to gamble on it and on the Saturday morning I put in my max bid but straight away it went to my max bid, I was winning but it had three hours to go with no room for me to go up! We went out anyway.
       
      I spent the next three hours kicking myself for not bidding more while we were out as it was the first car I had seen that fitted my criteria. Fate was in charge.

      On returning home I go straight on ebay to find 'Congratulations.............'
      For the grand total of £500 I had just won this fine vehicle!
       

       
      It has 5 months MOT and after fitting seat belts in the rear for the girls car seats it is pushed into daily service.
      My gamble and subsequent use results in a perfectly reliable car that actually does what it is supposed to do.
       
      Even more importantly Mrs T loves it so a win all round.
       
      All my cars have names (most are earned over a bit of time) and this one is called 'Gwendolen' ( G reg car and from Wales originally. I hate the name but I am not going to argue)
       
      That sums up part one, more will be along later (probably much later)
    • By dome
      This evening I venture forth into hitherto unknown lands (Kirkintilloch) to collect my latest acquisition.

      Which, naturally, has issues.

      I have purchased my first line of defence.



      Which appears to have antigravity properties

      More will follow this evening...
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