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[Roobarb]

Long hood you say...

Yes... well it's a narrow body '74 build so I figure they just put the wrong panels on it at the factory. ????

 

I'm not cutting anything up and I'm keeping the front hood in the short hood position by using a conversion hood panel. That way, there is no welding needed to put it back if I want to. The limited amount of the car I received means it was never going to be a concors car without a more work that it was ever worth doing.

 

The foot pedal assembly was pretty badly corroded, so I tried something new (to me). This degreasing stuff:

 

Followed by this derusting stuff:

 

Wow - did that ever do the job! I was surprised as I partially chose it because of the 'environmentally friendly' aspect it claims (over the other derusters).

 

It's eaten all the rust and left a much stronger part than if I had ground all the rust off.

And with a quick hit with the welder, the snapped bolts were all replaced too.

Just need to paint it and get to work on the rest of the assembly.

[Roobarb]

It astounds me how 'prestige' car makers charge like wounded rhinos for any spare part you need. Bits of wire (called 'looms' apparently but two bits of wire with plastic connectors do not seem much like looms to me...) for £124 plus VAT. Or your 2 bolts for £70 utterly insane. Still, in for a penny... I like your new engine lid

Thank you. It's a bit of an extravagance on the car, but sometimes it's fun to have the odd 'trick' part. It makes the builds more fun!

 

The Porsche / Mercedes / BMW etc tax is a poor tale really, but every now and again, you can find a bargain. There are new dash tops advertised for $1280 for my car, and I would like one as mine is split in two places from front to back.

I managed to pick a really basic one (not ideal - no speaker vent / air con vents etc but new and usable) up today for $217. Okay the postage is $70, but the other option didn't include postage either.

 

Still a little concerned about the transmission bolts though. Think I might have to swallow that one and spend all of my coffee money on them

[They_all_do_that_sir]

Thank you. It's a bit of an extravagance on the car, but sometimes it's fun to have the odd 'trick' part. It makes the builds more fun!

 

The Porsche / Mercedes / BMW etc tax is a poor tale really, but every now and again, you can find a bargain. There are new dash tops advertised for $1280 for my car, and I would like one as mine is split in two places from front to back.

I managed to pick a really basic one (not ideal - no speaker vent / air con vents etc but new and usable) up today for $217. Okay the postage is $70, but the other option didn't include postage either.

 

Still a little concerned about the transmission bolts though. Think I might have to swallow that one and spend all of my coffee money on them

Fantastic thread!

 

The basic dash would suit the lightweight vibe better? Or did you plan on running AC and speakers?

 

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[Roobarb]

The basic dash I think will make it look a bit better - especially with the light weight (wallet) vibe

 

I think I'll leave it as it is - simple and uncluttered.

Central speakers are overrated anyway.

[cort1977]

Good deal with the hood.  With the bolts, can you not find some equivalent ones i.e. same size, pitch and yield rating just not from Porsche? 

[somewhatfoolish]

70 bucks for 2 bolts? Unless they're handcarved from titanium by vestal virgins just get a pair of matching 10.9 high tensile fasteners from whatever passes as an industrial supplies place in the US.

[bezzabsa]

aint Poundshop doing bolts these days ????

 

 

LOL

 

Porsche By Poundland...

[Clanger]

Is it finished yet?

[Roobarb]

Thanks all.

Guess I need to get my ass in gear with the build and also suss out what the spec for the bolts is.

We get a long weekend this weekend, so hopefully get some stuff underway with the car again.

 

We broke 45F here today. The first time above freezing in I don't know how long. Expecting some serious snow on Monday though. Maybe as much as a foot and a half some people are saying.

[vulgalour]

That gearknob looks nice.  How did you do the shiny black insert?

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Thanks all.

Guess I need to get my ass in gear with the build and also suss out what the spec for the bolts is.

We get a long weekend this weekend, so hopefully get some stuff underway with the car again.

 

We broke 45F here today. The first time above freezing in I don't know how long. Expecting some serious snow on Monday though. Maybe as much as a foot and a half some people are saying.

 

 

 

What are the bolts for?

 

Giving Porsche $75 for two bolts gives them another $75 to build shit like the Pecan, Cayennnnne and all that other water cooled junk.

 

Just say 'no'.

[Roobarb]

That gearknob looks nice. How did you do the shiny black insert?

Thank you. I think that is a trick of the light. It could be filled with tinted resin though... now there's an idea,

[Roobarb]

What are the bolts for?

 

Giving Porsche $75 for two bolts gives them another $75 to build shit like the Pecan, Cayennnnne and all that other water cooled junk.

 

Just say 'no'.

How about NO!

 

I need to find what spec they are and what threads they have.

[vulgalour]

Now I look at it again, what I thought was a reflection is a hole in the side?  I'm guessing for an overdrive button or something.

[Roobarb]

Um... no just my poor attemp at styling (!)

 

A quick lick of paint later (chemical resistant, ceramic stuff)

And I'll soon be ready for the new bearings and springs!

Bronze bearings to replace the worn nylon.

[Roobarb]

Still cleaning up the foot pedals. Next I need to buy a Zinc plating kit, before final reassembly.

 

In the meantime, I've started to work on another little problem... the key that came with the car doesn't fit a single lock. Typical estate sale nightmare sooooo

 

I've started to remove the ignition switch to see if I'm lucky and it has the paper with the key code on it. If not, to send it away to have a key match.

The steering wheel was in the way, so that came off.

Removing the breakoff bolts and setting about the pinch bolt at the steering column, I took off the lower column cover and the drivers side kneepad. Seems to go on and on.

[Roobarb]

Today I had a couple of packages arrive via GAS Motorsports...

 

I'm like a kid at Christmas.

[Roobarb]

Some shots of the hood packed in box no. 1

 

I've built and owned a number of kitcars in my time, and I have to say, the quality of these panels equals one kit maker and leaves all the others in the dust. These really are amazing panels.

 

Just so small children don't get into trouble for having sticky fingers making parts drop off the car and break, I dropped the hood on the car and pushed up a couple of bolts. The initial fit is fantastic.

 

[Roobarb]

Box number two

 

I ordered metal headlamp bowls and inner liner option. I still need to read the 'destructions' but think I'll need to bond the liners in myself.

 

Even though I pushed the boat out with these, even with the liners, the fenders are still a good bit lighter than their metal equivalents- which is quite surprising.

 

Again, I'm impressed by the quality of the panels. Really rugged and sit happily flat on a flat surface.

 

As it's a backdating job, I can see straight away that various parts will have to be cut and notched - even though I bought the short hood to long hood panel, the fenders will need the impact bumper sections cut down a little.

 

I'm really excited to get to this, but I have so many other things to get done before I can get to these

 

The ignition lock / key issue is the first priority!

[PhilA]

The foot pedal assembly was pretty badly corroded, so I tried something new (to me). This degreasing stuff:IMG_6387.JPG

Followed by this derusting stuff:

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Wow - did that ever do the job!

Sometimes I don't talk out of my ass.

 

Phil

[Roobarb]

Very true

It works like a charm.

Thank You!

[Roobarb]

Finally got it out!!!!

 

A bit depressing, laying under the dash, looking up at all the random wiring mess.

Managed to sort a little of it. The central earth seemed to have shed some of its connections - which are now back in place.

 

The electrical,connector broke as I was trying to remove it from its Happy hiding place of 40+ years so that will be more expense. Still I need a key, if I'm ever going to drive this thing.

 

Fast forward a couple of weeks and I've got the assembly back from Sierra Madre in Cal.

They have kindly (okay - I paid a ton of money for) a new master key to be made from the assembly and a couple of working keys made for the barrel.

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One using a Porsche blank and another using an OEM blank.

[Roobarb]

SQUIRREL!!!

 

It's normal for it to snow in Minnesota in the winter, but last weekend was a doozy.

22" in two days.

This is just from Saturday.

 

So, not wanting to be in the garage for too long, I disassembled something I didn't need to (the door handle) and started drawing it in CAD.

Back in the day, Porsche had this type of door handle on its RSRs for racing, but made in plastic. There was tale that there is an OEM part number for this, but they were never made available to the public.

A few people have talked about grouping up to have an injection mold made, I had the idea of drawing one and then printing it.

 

Should save at least 50lbs in weight (not!).

 

The outside was reasonably easy to measure and draw - though I need to test print to make sure it's mostly right dimensionally, but the inside key barrel place is quite complicated, so... I cast it and then measured it.

 

 

Added and a few surfaces cleaned...

 

And a last optional addition for that extra 'Magnus W&$@ker' element (great to see a Brit abroad doing so well, but outlaw is a bit played out) that I can turn on and off as wanted.

Sent it off for a test print to see how far off my measuring was.

I seem to have added too much thickness to the handle. Oh well, that's why you test print I guess!

Perspective in the photos makes the plastic handle look smaller.

The handle parts seem to fit.

And there is a HUGE weight saving... (bahahahaha!)

That's a whole pound for two (possibly even more once I correct the handle thickness...)

Can't wait for the snow to go so I can really get back to grips with the car.

[Roobarb]

Thank you.

There are a few major areas I should be focusing on, but the garage is just too damn cold!

Spring looks to be here now so fingers crossed.

[Roobarb]

And then there were three

 

I still need to make sure the key barrel fits and buy some melt in nutcerts. Getting close now though.

 

The handle 'head' is a little thick still. With another 2mm off that, I think I'll be happy.

Don't think I'm going to print it with the holes though, as they seem to make it a little too bendy for the final product.

[Kringle]

Wow, genuine wow. This is exactly the route I would love to take with restoring cars. To draw up/ scan in some way and produce my own parts. Fantastic. My only use of cad was errrr prodesktop which doesnt have much industrial kudos. I do have a genuine* install of Catia v5 but apart from a couple of uni tutorials Ive never mastered it.

 

Did you self learn? I find the quantity of options quite daunting.

[Roobarb]

Thank you. Your very kind but I'm far from it!

 

Ive been pretty much self learning over a few years.

 

It's amazing that, when you have the desire to create something, you try really hard until you manage it.

 

I'd really love an old long hood 911 hot rod. I could never afford one, so I'm having to build mine from scratch.

 

I'm making some good friends along the way and having fun with it too

 

I still need a functioning engine for the car, and have a wiring nightmare to understand. Some welding and eventually painting. Though the painting will be farmed out.

 

I'd say go for it and try and build a part in CAD. Then send it off to Shapeways.com or a similar webesite. Choose the cheapest print type they have for your first samples, as there is bound to be something you didn't quite get right. And then once corrected, print it for real!

 

You can also add personal touches. I think I might add a little something to mine.

[vulgalour]

Should rename it MinneSNOWta.

 

I wonder how many people will ask you why you painted your handles when you've got the design finalised, not realising they're custom lightweight additions.

[Roobarb]

^^^

Probably everyone who sees it!

That's probably a couple of years away yet though...

 

Happened across a nice guy last Friday. He has a farm full of old Porsches among many other toys.

Seeing an old 1970 911T sitting forlornly in a field on its comfort spec Fuchs was something I hadn't expected to see again.

He had so many toys, it was insane.

An early race car with big 964 motor and full cage etc, a very nice 911S targa in black and his other race car, a 1970 Porsche 914.

Well, when I say 'his' I mean 'mine'. Looks like it's following me home!

I was going to race it (first thought) in the local autoX, but as it has a 911 engine in it (a 'recently' built 2.8, built from a lightweight 2.4) with big Webers on it... and a 911 LSD transmission, I might just run it for a year and then borrow the engine for my 911 while I get my 2.7 back together.

It has twin plugs too!

The whole car was built by a respected Porsche engine builder after he retired and is reportedly good for around 280 horses.

Looking at one of the old race cards, it's a full 1903lbs with driver and full tank of gas.

Should be a blast!

It's not run since 2012, so a bunch of stuff is out of date for full racing - so didn't cost a fortune. That won't be a problem for autoX though.

The biggest question is, where in blazes am I going to put it???

[Clanger]

^^^

 

Well, when I say 'his' I mean 'mine'. Looks like it's following me home!IMG_7122.JPG

 

The biggest question is, where in blazes am I going to put it???

Can we expect to see you posting in the "Single and sad" thread now?