Kiltox Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 How have you broken it already?! Sounds like a dead battery to me beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Started now, off to work! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 If starting causes the dash to flicker and parking brake fault comes up with out even touching it, then it's almost certainly the battery. Might get a few other dash lights coming up until it's got a bit of charge in it and it's restarted. All modern cars go a bit bonkers with a flat battery. Mine threw up the EML for low battery and missing devices on the CAN bus when the battery was starting to get a bit weak and unused for a week or two in the winter. Probably all the fiddling done yesterday has drained the battery down. Is the battery before your ownership? beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Before my ownership yeah - never had any starting issues tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Told ya not to fix the minor bits. Dave_Q, The Moog, beko1987 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Flat battery that was too flat to be able to drive the glow plugs I reckon. At least it appears to be going now... beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 In fact, was it the radio power connections being swapped around, so it was being powered on all night? beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 From memory on an ISO adaptor (which the wiring looked like in the pic) isn't yellow perm live & red switched live? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r.welfare Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Have a go cleaning the battery connections if it's not the radio connectors causing a drain. My Espace did exactly the same thing a couple of weeks back - parking brake fault followed by dead start button. Recovery bloke noted earth lead was very hot. Cleaned it all up plus earth to inner wing, was then fine, but bought a new battery anyway (mainly because the existing one on my car was too small). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulscavalier Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Nick the xantias battery if its better? beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 I think all my fiddling yesterday killed it, I pushed most of the buttons! I didn't change the radio live and switched live it turns off with the car off so hopefully it's not that. It drove to work fine, so I'll see if it starts to get home. I did look at battery swapping, but the xantia battery is 60ah,gooner is 80. If it is fine for the next 2 weeks I'll wait for ecp to have a weekend 'sale' and buy a new one. Jump leads are in the boot. Didn't feel any wires Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 On the plus side, the traffic was fucking awful this morning, having an auto is the right choice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chaseracer Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Wot is the crossing point from 'non giffer' to 'giffer'. Is it an age related thing or is it brought on by bumper corner scrapes or the driving of a certain make and model car ? All of the above, or none, or some, depending. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moog Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Welcome to the wonderful world of Renaults! I have learnt that my Vel Satis has openy pockets like yours. beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Already been told off on the renner forum.. DONT ASK TECHNICAL QUESTIONS IN YOUR INTRO POST... I wasn't you twat, I was just listing things. Apparently saying stuff vaguley technical is frowned upon in the wrong forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Thinking about it, Xantia had a new battery with Bub, but it's 60ah. Gooner's battery is 80mah, ECP show me a 70ah battery. Would it be stupid to fit a good 60ah battery to the gooner, or should I just buy a new one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sigmund Fraud Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Good to see that there's at least one Laguna II on here that is defending the model's hard-earned reputation for random electrical faults ! gadgetgricey and beko1987 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Good to see that there's at least one Laguna II on here that is defending the model's hard-earned reputation for random electrical faults !Hopefully not for long though, I can deal with just needing a battery! Sigmund Fraud 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 The current battery in the Laguna might not be able to store 80Ah of energy anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kiltox Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 Do you have a battery charger? I'd charge the battery and then STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH THE WIRING beko1987 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 This looks class, love a bit of fake wood. Hope you get the polisher on it bet it would come up nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Do you have a battery charger? I'd charge the battery and then STOP FUCKING AROUND WITH THE WIRING I think it was more pushing buttons and doing stuff without the engine on for a few hours that caused the problem, all I've done wiring wise so far is plug the live for the radio back in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiC Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 This looks class, love a bit of fake wood. Hope you get the polisher on it bet it would come up nice. It's plastic unfortunately, not real wood. I was tempted to change it in mine, but over-ruled by AS. oldcars 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldcars Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 It's plastic unfortunately, not real wood. I was tempted to change it in mine, but over-ruled by AS.Project drive gooner Rusty_Rocket 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supernaut Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I told you s- ...ah, whatever. This is hilarious. Until my stupid ebay purchase fails to get me home from Manchester at the weekend. SiC and beko1987 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 I told you s- ...ah, whatever. This is hilarious. Until my stupid ebay purchase fails to get me home from Manchester at the weekend.This is why I never laugh at anyone on here with car issues, nor at people stuck on the hard shoulder. I've had it happen before, it could happen at any time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 It works! Been watching the car park all day waiting for some poor fool to take their car out to get lunch, just been and fetched it and it fired up straight away! It works the car park barrier now, the xantia never did, I put it down to the angle of the numberplate, Gareths X reg crv works it so it can't be the format (we used to own the oldest cars, now it's just him...) They keycard also works very well in my wallet in my coat pocket... Probably wont stay there for long though as I usually keep it in my back pocket, and I can imagine that being a bad idea if I sit my fat arse on it too much... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beko1987 Posted March 20, 2017 Author Share Posted March 20, 2017 Oh and the drivers mirror did move, I saw it! Need to find out how to reset the memory shizzle. Passenger one did nothing, going to wedge it up with something to stop the glass dropping! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hooli Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 I usually keep it in my back pocket, and I can imagine that being a bad idea if I sit my fat arse on it too much... Yes don't do that... The circuit board inside the card is only half the length of the card & the rest is the battery holder. If you flex the card too much the battery connections snap where they join the board, I had to fix the replacement card I got with all the ECUs. They are a bit of a bugger to open without cutting your fingers apart. SiC 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tayne Posted March 20, 2017 Share Posted March 20, 2017 They keycard also works very well in my wallet in my coat pocket... Probably wont stay there for long though as I usually keep it in my back pocket, and I can imagine that being a bad idea if I sit my fat arse on it too much...Sitting on your fat arse with your wallet in your back pocket will give you sciatica. Richard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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