Why so cheap Mr.Mazda?

[twosmoke300]

New minis are rusty fuckers too ! Not the body but subframes , suspension parts and brake pipes .

All down to cost per unit

[AMC Rebel]

Both the 6 and the jag x type are based on the mk3 mondeo, and both rot like bastards.

Because Ford?

 

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Er no.

 

Hmmmm not so sure, don't seem to see truly rotten mk3's but a lot do get scrapped particularly derv due to the fuel system woes.

 

 

Agreed - and the Mazda platform isn't the Ford/Jag one.

[AMC Rebel]

New minis are rusty fuckers too ! Not the body but subframes , suspension parts and brake pipes .

All down to cost per unit

 

Minis with rusty subframes?  What next

[rantingYoof]

A co-worker took his 1.8 Sakata from new to 195k in 12 years. It had bubbly arches but nowt else wrong.

 

I guess you get a good 'un with a petrol engine and it goes on forever.

 

I spent approximately four minutes looking at an ST220 once which seemed perfectly okay in the photos; arches and doors were blebby.

 

Fine, if the car was £1k. It was £2.2k.

 

WALK AWAY

[sierraman]

I'll be honest I've had both the diesel and the petrol Mondeos, both can have expensive problems - the 1.8 is particularly prone to the rings sticking and thus failure of the MOT on emissions that's hardly cheap to put right? Similarly the diesel can have trouble with the injectors etc again expensive to put right.

 

It all just depends what your expectations are. If your wanting something that'll last forever then I'd buy a dry stone wall not a car. I can't really see the problem of buying a Mondeo for £6-700 and after 2 years or whatever it's not economical to fix so you throw it away. You've had your money's worth. Yes if you buy a 150,000 miler it will likely fall apart in 50k but you've not spent a lot on the grand scheme of things.

 

Every car has it's failings, you might well buy a Citroen XM for £500 and it give faultless service, on the other hand you could buy a Golf for the same and it be nothing but trouble, you take it as seen and it's pot luck. At your budget anything could be reliable/unreliable.

[sierraman]

Minis with rusty subframes? What next

All part of the nostalgia. I wonder if you park it head long into the rain it won't start?

[drewd]

I had a 53 plate Mazda 6 TS diesel that was given to us by my wife's uncle. It had 188k when I got it 2 years ago, and had been welded before I got it. It was very rusty underneath, and needed a fair amount of welding along the full length of one sill for the 1st MOT I put it through. I was warned about it though. The diesels have a bad rep but mine was faultless mechanically. I sold it this year with 212k on the clock and the interior was still in great condition, all the electrics worked too.

 

The motoring press rated them and although I found it a bit soul less to drive it was utterly reliable and cheap to run. However I knew that due to it's terminal rot and expensive parts it's days were numbered. I did have to change the bearing in the drive belt tensioner. I was going to replace the entire tensioner, but it was stupidly expensive so I just replaced the bearing. The rear calipers were also dodgy, resulting in a crap hand brake but I am used to that from the VWs I've owned. Everything else was just basic servicing.

[New POD]

New minis are rusty fuckers too ! Not the body but subframes , suspension parts and brake pipes .

All down to cost per unit

 

Not ours. No rust on our 2001 model that has been near the sea for all it's life.

[AMC Rebel]

All part of the nostalgia. I wonder if you park it head long into the rain it won't start?

My Maxi used to lose power on the motorway trying to pass lorries in the rain - until I went to the scrappies and bought a replacement plastic shield for the front of the engine.

[Bren]

Vectra? They dont rot and parts are cheap.

Buy one that has had a clutch / dmf and you are quids in.1.8 and 2.0 turbo and V6 if you hate diesels - 2.2 is a PITA - expensive cam chain and fuel pump issues.

 

Only thing is they are souless to drive.

[scruff]

I had a 53 plate Mazda 6 TS diesel that was given to us by my wife's uncle. It had 188k when I got it 2 years ago, and had been welded before I got it. It was very rusty underneath, and needed a fair amount of welding along the full length of one sill for the 1st MOT I put it through. I was warned about it though. The diesels have a bad rep but mine was faultless mechanically. I sold it this year with 212k on the clock and the interior was still in great condition, all the electrics worked too.

 

The motoring press rated them and although I found it a bit soul less to drive it was utterly reliable and cheap to run. However I knew that due to it's terminal rot and expensive parts it's days were numbered. I did have to change the bearing in the drive belt tensioner. I was going to replace the entire tensioner, but it was stupidly expensive so I just replaced the bearing. The rear calipers were also dodgy, resulting in a crap hand brake but I am used to that from the VWs I've owned. Everything else was just basic servicing.

 

Yeah I'd agree with you there, my wife's got a 57 plate diesel, got 120k on it. It's not had any MoT issues but one look underneath and you can see it's not going to be a forever car. I think it's a corking car for the money to be honest. It's good on fuel, tows well, fits all the baby stuff and the dogs in the back and she hasn't broken it (yet). 

[cms206]

One of my colleagues has a 52-plate 6 and it recently failed a hooky test on rot.

 

My tame mechanic spent all day yesterday welding it back together and it passed late yesterday afternoon with a verbal advisory of "get fucking shot of it".

 

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[sierraman]

If the weldings done to a competent standard it should see the car out. Anyway if it's passed the test I'd be inclined to think well I'd get £500 for it if I sold it might just as well run it till the test runs out in a year or so. That's assuming mechanically it was fit.

[Cluso]

Cant get a vectra, because ugly, horrid, bad, awful and bad (sorry vectra ownsers)

 

Would be getting it on finance, 2 years i think, part ex my dying focus too. 

 

 

Found an 07 super close to me with 68k on the clock but more of you say rust than not, bit of gamble i guess.

What other cheap to insure modernish saloons are there?

[Tamworthbay]

My Maxi used to lose power on the motorway trying to pass lorries in the rain - until I went to the scrappies and bought a replacement plastic shield for the front of the engine.

That's posh, most people used a marigold glove with holes in the fingers!

[sierraman]

Cant get a vectra, because ugly, horrid, bad, awful and bad (sorry vectra ownsers)

 

Would be getting it on finance, 2 years i think, part ex my dying focus too.

 

 

Found an 07 super close to me with 68k on the clock but more of you say rust than not, bit of gamble i guess.

What other cheap to insure modernish saloons are there?

How much are you looking to spend on the car?

[rantingYoof]

1.8 Volvo S40.

 

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[Cluso]

How much are you looking to spend on the car?

 

under 2k if poss, I love toys which is a problem for that price range if you still want cheap insurance, which i want to keep under £90 a month, my focus is at £65 pr. month and a 2.0 mazda 6 is at £80 pr. month for me.

[oldcars]

What about a 75?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rover-75-2-0-cdti-Diesel-Low-Milage-/252658476476?hash=item3ad39e65bc:g:HPAAAOSwEzxYPL1p

[John F]

Has anyone mentioned the rust problems yet?

 

See my MX5 fettling thread for an idea of the horrors lurking... http://autoshite.com/topic/21650-mx5-de-rustifying/

[NorfolkNWeigh]

I don't know about insurance costs but a large Korean saloon will be loaded with toys and probably go forever.

Chevrolet Epica, Kia Magentis or Sonata or Hyundai Sonata or Magentis- whatever it doesn't matter. The V6 ones are probably quite nippy if juicy, ask Xtriple.

[Cluso]

What about a 75?

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/rover-75-2-0-cdti-Diesel-Low-Milage-/252658476476?hash=item3ad39e65bc:g:HPAAAOSwEzxYPL1p

Insurance too much, over 1200 a year.

[sierraman]

£2,000 is tricky money especially if you are financing it. There's a lot of worn out shit at that money that's £5-600 stuff at auction. Give it a valet and put some paper mats in at we'll call in £1,995.

 

If you arent in dire need for a motor ASAP, I'd consider saving some £ and looking £750-800. Could be no worse than a car up at £2,000. Also if it collapses in a fortnight it's much less a heartache.

[DaveDorson]

I had a 53 plate Mazda 6 TS diesel that was given to us by my wife's uncle. It had 188k when I got it 2 years ago, and had been welded before I got it. It was very rusty underneath, and needed a fair amount of welding along the full length of one sill for the 1st MOT I put it through. I was warned about it though. The diesels have a bad rep but mine was faultless mechanically. I sold it this year with 212k on the clock and the interior was still in great condition, all the electrics worked too.

 

The motoring press rated them and although I found it a bit soul less to drive it was utterly reliable and cheap to run. However I knew that due to it's terminal rot and expensive parts it's days were numbered. I did have to change the bearing in the drive belt tensioner. I was going to replace the entire tensioner, but it was stupidly expensive so I just replaced the bearing. The rear calipers were also dodgy, resulting in a crap hand brake but I am used to that from the VWs I've owned. Everything else was just basic servicing.

 

 

That thing spent ages in my workshop getting bits welded on.  Other than that, it was a corker.

[Cluso]

I don't know about insurance costs but a large Korean saloon will be loaded with toys and probably go forever.

Chevrolet Epica, Kia Magentis or Sonata or Hyundai Sonata or Magentis- whatever it doesn't matter. The V6 ones are probably quite nippy if juicy, ask Xtriple.

 

Epica is the only one in my insurance budget, looks quite nice actually.

Closest one is 146 miles away though :<

 

 

£2,000 is tricky money especially if you are financing it. There's a lot of worn out shit at that money that's £5-600 stuff at auction. Give it a valet and put some paper mats in at we'll call in £1,995.

 

If you arent in dire need for a motor ASAP, I'd consider saving some £ and looking £750-800. Could be no worse than a car up at £2,000. Also if it collapses in a fortnight it's much less a heartache.

 

Will get something cheap and plasticy if i have to but not that desperate yet, if the focus straight up breaks i will have to consider it.

[oldcars]

Insurance too much, over 1200 a year.

Even for a diesel?

[Cluso]

Even for a diesel?

Yarp, £1213 a year, i only have one year of no claims at 24 years old and im from foreign (Norway)

[rantingYoof]

Try a quote on a 1.8 S40 of 2005 vintage.

 

Avoid 'Sport' for insurance trains and go for SE if you want goodies or S if you like poverty sailing.

 

Comfy, charismatic engine for a 4 pot, and should be good on insurance because Volvo.

 

Average mileage 2005 model should easily be attainable for less than 2k.

 

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[dome]

All part of the nostalgia. I wonder if you park it head long into the rain it won't start?

 

When fixing my exs Mini I left off the plastic shield in front of the dizzy. It conked out on her one day in the pissing rain. After she'd dumped me. Nae luck

[sierraman]

What's your area and I'll pull up some utterly unsuitable suggestions on Autotrader?

 

Say finance is £100 a month, wait while July and you've enough in hand to buy it outright.