Berlingo XUD9TE project (Y THO?)

[Lacquer Peel]

Good buy. I had one of these, sold it to a chap I work with, he is steadily crashing it into everything he can find. It looks rough as fuck now.

I put new doors on it, pulled the wing straight and rotary polished it when I had it.

I bypassed the original filter arrangements and fitted a modified XUD one I had in the shed and added a priming grenade.

And turned up the fuel a bit. Made better progress up hill.

 

Does the XUD filter housing fit without modifications? I'm not keen on them either but the DW8 one looks mega-shit. Interested re: fuelling adjustments. Did you adjust it much?

[Cleon-Fonte]

Will a BMW E46 320d filter and Peugeot priming bulb setup work, as per several XUDs on here?

 

Top purchasing by the way. I have a massive want factor for a Berlingo and I've been caning it on Autotrader all day looking at DW8-powered Multispaces thanks to this thread.

[Lacquer Peel]

The fuel lines need to be replaced or spliced, all hard plastic I think. Would really like a heated fuel filter, both the standard DW8 and XUD provide heat but they are buggers for sealing properly.

A Multispace would be great, ideally that's what I'd like.

[Arthur Foxhake]

I went just over a quarter turn on mine. I followed the van up hill the other day and it was probably a bit too much, judging by the haze of smoke it put out. Wasn't terrible but could be less.

I don't think the XUD filter housing will fit without mods. I just happened to have one spare in the shed and the original one on the van was shagged and letting in loads of air and was the reason I got the van cheap.

I'll take some pics when I see it next, maybe, if I remember.

[Dave_Q]

You can fit multispace seats in the van with medium fabrication. I did this on my old one but I don't think i have any pics.

 

http://www.rms1.co.uk/berlingo/convert.htm

 

I reckon a multispace is all the car a person could ever need, only slight annoyance is I would make the rear seats quick release, they're not designed to be removed so when I've taken them out to get a motorbike in or something it takes a few mins to undo the bolts.

 

Cleon-Fonte, definitely look for a HDi if possible, much much better to drive and no worse on fuel, unless you absolutely must use veg.

[Lacquer Peel]

I reckon an HDi would be better on fuel, the DW8 is quite thirsty coming from a very fuel efficient direct injection van.

[320touring]

The fuel lines need to be replaced or spliced, all hard plastic I think. Would really like a heated fuel filter, both the standard DW8 and XUD provide heat but they are buggers for sealing properly.

A Multispace would be great, ideally that's what I'd like.

Just take a feed off the coolant circuit and wrap a pipe round a BMW fuel filter = insta heetongs

[beko1987]

My xud has the cold start thing disconnected and fires up first time in the hard frosts we have had recently once the glow plug light has gone out

[jonathan_dyane]

I'm late to the party but other than the pump being turned back and electronic advance the main difference with the DW8 over the XUD is that it uses the same combustion pre-chamber design as the TUD5 engine which should improve emissions without hurting economy or powah. I have often wondered whether fitting the IP and injectors from a 'proper' XUD engine would restore the lost performance and economy. I had thought of trying it with the fathers Berlingo but it shat it's bottom end before I had the chance and now runs an XUD9TE...

[Arthur Foxhake]

Can be done. I believe Darren Lobb has a Bosch VE on his supercharged DW8.

Only runs low boost. It's fitted in a 305 estate winbus.

[Dave_Q]

I'm sure it's not quite bolt on though, some sort of bracket fabrication at least is needed.

 

I saw it discussed on a vegoil forum, bosch pumps for DW8 are pretty rare compared to XUD ones and somebody tried but it wasn't a direct swap.

[bub2006]

Supercharged dw8 sounds fun.

[Arthur Foxhake]

It's a lot easier than you'd imagine. It's mostly modifications to the pump bracket. They are 10 a penny and available.

Sure enough it isn't just a bolt on upgrade though.

[Arthur Foxhake]

Supercharged DW8 sounds better than standard.

Not sure there's much to be had out of doing it.

Probably a lot easier to just get a Dw10 hdi.

 

I believe he had the charger and bracket made up for a previous project and just chucked it on to pep it up a bit. More for fun than performance.

[Lacquer Peel]

Would a ZX, 306 or Xsara TD engine drop almost straight into one of these?

[Arthur Foxhake]

Yeah, but the chassis is slightly wider so some bodgery of the top engine mount generally happens.

Yours is pre muliplex as well for added ease and should be able to have a full complement of clock dials and guages when/if done.

[Lacquer Peel]

 

GET IN MY VAN NOW!

[forddeliveryboy]

Uprate the brakes before increasing engine power. C15 brakes were never great even when new, ime.

 

Forgot, it's a Blingo! The brakes are usually pretty good.

[bub2006]

From what I've read the xud9 more or less straight bolts in to a dw8 space. I'd found out for sure if engine died in the c15. Scrap French tin with good engine would be bought!

[Lacquer Peel]

Uprate the brakes before increasing engine power. C15 brakes were never great even when new, ime.

 

Forgot, it's a Blingo! The brakes are usually pretty good.

 

The brakes are excellent compared to a Caddy with no brake servo which had crap brakes to begin with. They seem almost hydropneumatic snappy, takes some getting used to.

[bub2006]

I've got brake servo on the c15 but I think it's for show. I thought caddy had servos on the brakes? Is yours polo based?

[Cavcraft]

Not convinced the DW8 is as good as the XUD. If you could find a Bosch pumped 1.9TD engine and dropped it in it'd be a massive laugh.

[Lacquer Peel]

They do but mine is buggered.

[bub2006]

Mine I thought was but turns out they all are like that! Cav, I did like the flexibility of the turbo xud but the dw8 has a bit of torque for a na diesel. World's better than the escort. But it will get an xud if the engine went tits up.

[Lacquer Peel]

The Caddy's brake servo failed when I was merging into a lane of slower traffic. The stains will never come out. Cheers VAG!

[bub2006]

Oh shit. Sounds hectic

[Lacquer Peel]

 

Good to have a big shed at work to tinker with my little shed. The accelerator cable's been adjusted, a piece of piss and it pulls and idles a bit better. It's running cool so a new thermostat from ECP was picked up today, but one of the thermostat bolt heads is chewed up and roughly 9.5mm.

Brimmed the tank and roughly calculated MPG, it could be as low as 32MPG which is shit frankly. Hopefully it improves with a new thermostat.

[Cavcraft]

Mine I thought was but turns out they all are like that! Cav, I did like the flexibility of the turbo xud but the dw8 has a bit of torque for a na diesel. World's better than the escort. But it will get an xud if the engine went tits up.

 

To be honest, I'd struggle to think of a worse diesel engine in the world than that shitty old Ford 1.8 effort. Oh, except the 4 cylinder Iveco engine which is just the worst engine in the world of any type.

 

 

Len, yours looks shit loads tidier than mine.

[Lacquer Peel]

It's really straight for an old high mileage van, that's what attracted* me to it. That and the Bosch pump.

[alcyonecorporation]

I thought your shed had that weird old fashioned shag pile carpeting for a minute, but then I realised it was wood shavings and cracked concrete.