Supermarket Diesel

[sierraman]

Since I took on the financial ruin roulette and bought a Diesel, I've been advised from several sources including my tame mechanic to avoid using supermarkets for Diesel and to stick to BP, Shell etc, not the super stuff but regular city diesel or if possible use the stuff trucks fill up with?

 

Is there any truth in this? I understand using the Asda stuff will likely cause premature fail of the injectors?

[Kiltox]

My old Kangoo 1.9D ran like shit on Morrisons diesel but absolutely fine on all others - I don't normally buy into the all supermarket diesel r shit theory but in that one case of an old shagged van it was

[tooSavvy]

Will 'Supermarket Wars' save us from OPEC induced rises??

 

.... £1.46/L on the horizon again

 

 

TS

[sierraman]

FFS.

[AMC Rebel]

Used supermarket Diesel in 

 

2005 Mondeo 2.2 TDCI

2005 Discovery 3 TDV6

2005 Jaaag TDVi (same engine as above but with extra turbot) 

 

Never noticed any ill effects on any of 'em.

 

I know my experience is just one bloke's 3-car view, but it it is approx 70k miles spread across the 3.

 

I dunno wtf these experts think Morrisons et al put (or don't put) in their fuel to make so much difference.

[2MB]

Can't comment on diesel, but all 95-Ron unleaded is the same stuff

[beko1987]

I've used asda derv in my old ZX and the current Xantia with no issues since forever. Had teco derv a few times, total, BP and Esso cheap stuff and nothing exploded.

 

Saying that I did notice some air in the fuel line 2 days ago, but she ran fine, and I checked at lunchtime and there's no air now so hopefully thats stopped.

 

If I had some finicky lieing vag 1.9tdi tuned to within 5% of its extreme tolerance I may not, but I'm never ever likely to run such a horrible thing.

 

My car runs well on heating oil, new veg, old veg, badly filtered veg, I'm sure cheap actual diesel will do fuck all to it. I could probably water down the fuel with my own piss and it would still get me to work and back (would smell a bit from the exhaust I would imagine)

 

Although I will concede it can happen, a friends old car was a 2010 octavia vrs with the fsi pez engine, and he did prove that running normal petrol vs monkey spunk petrol decreased the mpg of a tank by 60 miles, and he said it ran a little bit rougher, but the map on that was for the higher octane stuff.

[castros_bro]

Me n a few mates went for a load of beers ad a vinderloo or two.

 

On the way the Focus's "low diesel" light came on so popped into Tesmorriberry's Supermarket for a diesel fill up and next day I had burning projectile diarrhoea. I ain't never going to use supermarket fuel again.

[AMC Rebel]

BTW I have just filled up my (pez) Mondeo at ASDA - does that mean it's doomed?

[oldcars]

Don't use it, it made a right mess of my Reliant.

[chaseracer]

Don't use it, it made a right mess of my Reliant.

 

You're supposed to put it in the tank, not pour it over and light it... 

[AMC Rebel]

A Diesel Reliant?

[sierraman]

BTW I have just filled up my (pez) Mondeo at ASDA - does that mean it's doomed?

I don't know my dad used to fill it up at Morrisons so it's probably used to it. Ask it tonight what it prefers?

 

I'm asking as it seemed a funny thing to say to avoid supermarket diesel. I fill up at Shell as it happens to be on the way to work. No other reason.

[Fat_Pirate]

My understanding is the fuel comes from a common local depot, the only difference being the package of additives applied for particular brands.  

 

Nice to see Opec are cutting production on the day I buy a Jaguar...

[Cleon-Fonte]

Surely it doesn't matter what you put in the tank, as apparently all commonrail diesels are guaranteed to suffer instant death the moment you turn the key anyway.

[forddeliveryboy]

Isn't the rule of thumb that if you drive round like a pussy things can clog up with supermarket stuff unless it's ancient tech?

[rainagain]

My understanding is the fuel comes from a common local depot, the only difference being the package of additives applied for particular brands.

 

Nice to see Opec are cutting production on the day I buy a Jaguar...

This I worked with a couple of guys who used to work at one of the local refineries. All fuel is the same base stock but the additive package is different. Supermarket fuels had the legal minimum of additives where as the brand name ones had more. Saying that I always fill up with petrol/diesel at my local ASDA as it's on my way to work and nothings broken so far.

 

I received my ATEX training from a guy who did also did service station tank inspections he said he would never buy supermarket fuel as their tanks were always a disgrace.

[hpi_matrix]

I had a 330d, almost ran exclusively on Sainsburys diesel. The high pressure fuel pump went big time and ive always wondered if it was the cheap diesel I used.

[sierraman]

So it's 50/50 some say it does some say it doesn't.

[oldcars]

A Diesel Reliant?

Poor attempt at humour 

[Richard]

My local proper petrol station is cheaper than a supermarket and isn't crammed with morons. Win win.

[srad34]

So it's 50/50 some say it does some say it doesn't.

 

My take is that I fill up with premium Shell 1 out of 4 tanks in my dizzler BMW. I have done 30k a year for the last 3 years, mostly mway driving but all good so far, will probs do the same when the Beemer retires at 200k.....  

[Rover414]

Both of my RX8s run almost exclusively on Costcos basic fuel and never had any issues, even with premixing 2 stroke in with the full tank.

[dollywobbler]

I received my ATEX training from a guy who did also did service station tank inspections he said he would never buy supermarket fuel as their tanks were always a disgrace.

 

I thought I'd seen something somewhere else about this issue. Not that it makes much difference to me. I fill up when I need fuel, at wherever is nearest at the time. Can't say I've ever noticed any difference in any car.

[tooSavvy]

[ RX8 s] ^^ My ToMM, so the Corolla HBOL says, has a 'dip switch/jumper' for detuning timing for POOL spirit....

 

Toyota... sails across the world, Eh??

 

 

TS

[MarvinsMom]

i've run everything i've ever owned on supermarket fuel, from the mini and metr, through to the jaguar and rover without, touch wood, and ill effects.

[SiC]

This I worked with a couple of guys who used to work at one of the local refineries. All fuel is the same base stock but the additive package is different. Supermarket fuels had the legal minimum of additives where as the brand name ones had more. Saying that I always fill up with petrol/diesel at my local ASDA as it's on my way to work and nothings broken so far.

 

I received my ATEX training from a guy who did also did service station tank inspections he said he would never buy supermarket fuel as their tanks were always a disgrace.

But then with a high-turnover of fuel stock, even if the tanks are filthy, you're more likely to get fresh fuel? Unless you get the dregs crap sucked out. Maybe that's where some of the issues come from? The dregs fall to the bottom/float at the top, and because the non-supermarkets get through less fuel, when they get to the time of having their tanks filled they aren't actually nearly empty. So you are less likely to end up with fuel from the bottom of the tanks?

[sierraman]

I knew I'd end up even more confused. If one person said supermarket fuel is cack I'd say they were talking shit. But then opinion seems so divided?

[Chris2cv]

Both my cars always have supermarket fuel, usually Tesco. Had no problems in 22 years with the 2cv, 14 with clio. The moped always has Esso, but only because I pass that on my way home from work, and the tank is too small to bother shopping around!

[sierraman]

Listen if I start using Supermarket Diesel that's £400 down the drain in 12-18 months. I can't be taking chances like this!!!

 

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