For Sale U can haz cheep Jags - 4 sayle p3

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

A late XJ40 with the supercharged six is close to my perfect spec!

[dome]

A late XJ40 with the supercharged six is close to my perfect spec!

 

Mine too, did they ever make them though?

[cort16]

I don't think so the XJ40 XJR was just an XJ40 in fancy pants.

[Guest Hooli]

I'm pretty sure they did a blown XJ40, damn sure one bloke on XJ40.com had a manual version in black.

 

I miss my Xj40 & will have another.

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

They did make supercharged XJ40s as prototypes, but I have never seen one. There are several XJ40s with the supercharged straight six dropped into them about. There is a guy on XJ40.com who is going further and welding the outer panels of his XJ40 to the inner bodywork of his XJR6 since he wants a supercharged XJ40 and prefers the engineering work and modern production techniques Jaguar put into the X300.

 

The XJ40 XJR had an uprated version of the 4 litre engine with a different engine manifold and camshafts for more power - but it wasn't supercharged.

[richardthestag]

Now wiv pics

 

First headline is that Fathathestag seems to have "justifiably" * nabbed this for himself

 

* he paid for the car, 6 months rent and insured it while I was swanning around at home.

 

Mrs thestag also started to get pretty darned eggy and her lips almost completely disappeared when she saw the pics on farcebook so I hastily agreed with dad  for now

 

Anyway on to the pics

 

Nice clean back end, keen eyed will have spotted the giffer cushion on the rear shelf. alas I think it is possibly holding up the high level brake light

 

The boot has never had a bale of straw or probably anything else in it

 

Spare wheel well is nice and dry

 

CD Changer, however it haz no powa, head unit doesn't recognise it

 

Rear seat looks sweet but not a shit load of leg room. I can get in it though

 

Door cards are as clean as you like

 

Cabin looks a comfy place to reside while wafting at 3 figure speeds to some exotic location

 

drivers seat wear does not seem to match the mileage

 

Lots of nice electric toys and these all work, memory seats in one of these are cool. when you switch off the ignition the drivers seat rolls back and the steering wheel lifts up to aid a dignified exit

 

Drivers Seat heater is non functioning and the aircon needs a regaz

 

 

Handy place to put your driving glasses, still trying to find where the walking stick and pipe are supposed to go

 

Lots of sticky pins, this is on the do list once chains, gearbox fluid change and mot are done

 

 

 

its got a blower in the armrest

 

bit of rust on the o/s chassis rail. need a closer look at this when it is on the ramps

 

else surface rust here and there

 

sweet running motor

 

complete but somewhat disappointing 21c Jaguar toolkit

 

 

4 clean alloys, one tyre is near the wear marker, other have life in them yet

 

Lots of chrome

 

[richardthestag]

updatez

 

Finally got around to checking for the timing chain tensioners today. plastic = potential disaster leading to boat anchor. metal = somebody already changed them.

 

the problem with the factory fit plastic on the early engines is that they are prone to cracking and then allowing the chains to slip. one tooth ok, two or more = disaster. the failing tensioner would let out a death rattle sometime before pulling the grenade pin. Jaguar in their wisdom decided to revise the design by adding another spring to the existing plastic design. result is the plastic tensioner still fails but this time gives no audible rattle prior to failure. So early noughties and they introduced metal tensioner bodies that in theory last the life of the chains. nice job that

 

there are 4 chains and 4 tensioners and these plus specialist tools would be approx 3/4 of the purchase price of this car so fingers crossed

 

Jag installed in nose of barn

 

fairly easy to get to this point, just a case of removing coilpacks, airfilter and then cam cover. all 8mm or 10mm socket work

 

But Yay metal tensioners, all looks clean and tidy in here cam lobes etc for a 160k mile engine, backing up my theory that this was a well cared for mota

 

installed new cover gasket and jobs a good in

[billyboy406v6]

That looks lovely and clean under the cam covers, chains are for winners !!

[richardthestag]

now i know the chains are safe Just been out and given it the beans. boot down   and it still got 12mpg. averaged out at 20mpg for a lot of round town pottering but with some fast a road stuff thrown in

[richardthestag]

in other news Fathathestag dropped it in to the local garage to get him to run it through a mock MOT test. I would have passed no advisories. There was no point doing an official MOT as there is more than a month left and we didn't really want to get into the confusion of a recorded mot fail when there was 2 months left on the old mot

 

Have found that the reverse sensors and CD autochanger run from the same fuse - neither are working but fuse does. Pissing down here and I am onto Range Rover welding now.

 

Also doesnt appear to still have a heated screen fitted

 

May waft back to High Wycombeshite on Monday in it. Just need to get flat cap, werthers and driving gloves at the ready

[mouseflakes]

complete but somewhat disappointing 21c Jaguar toolkit

 

Wouldn't it be great to go to a Jaguar Specialist garage and find this is all they ever work with?

 

[HillmanImp]

 

Just been out to check my one and I can confirm it has one of these too.

 

I've only owned it a year and a half after owning another one for a year before that and have never noticed this before, although I suddenly seem to remember Volksy pointing this out to me too when he had mine but I must've instantly forgotten. 

 

0/10 on the observation/hide your sunglasses round of the Krypton Factor for me.

[HMC]

My x300 has this feature too. There just needs to be a small arms holder in the glovebox and the interior would be fully specc'd

 

I think this thread needs updating by Robt....

[stephen01]

I had my Honda 3 years before I found the sunglass holder, and nearly 4 years before I found the tray under the passenger seat...

[Guest Hooli]

I had my goona about 3 months before I discovered a pair of sunglasses in the glasses holder.

 

This X308 is bloody lovely, I need another Jag in my life.

[RobT]

I think this thread needs updating by Robt....

I can join in at last! As mentioned in News 24 here's my cheap Jag, bought for a tad over a monkey...

 

 

I'm jealous of the fact your boot opens Richard. Mine is firmly shut and judging by what others say there's no easy way to get it open. It involves removing the number plate and drilling holes in the bootlid apparently.

[FrazzleTC]

Fantastic choice! Looks a lovely example, in a great colour! Pretty unusual being a 4.0 Sovereign, and a short wheelbase. Glad that it turned out to have the correct tensioners. They don't seem to mind big mileages if they are well enough maintained!

I, too, have joined the cheap cat collective in the last month or so. Mine is an R plate X308 4.0 Sovereign LWB. Same owner from 2000 until this year, and a colossal number of stamps in the book, confirming it has done over 230,000 miles. Not the prettiest example, will probably require some significant welding if it is to see another test, but it goes beautifully, and I'm in awe of it. Has four Pirellis, and the oil is still golden. I've done 2000 miles, and enjoyed them all. It even, somehow, turns the commute to work into something to be relished.

Took it from Staffordshire to Dumfries and Galloway and back last weekend, and it was utterly effortless. Great in stop start traffic, but even better on cruise on an empty M6 through Cumbria. My only complaint is the wind noise from the driver's window, but that aside, it's wonderful. Only other annoyance is that friends all seem to find it hilarious crushing the front seat passenger against the dashboard, using the buttons on the back of the seat. Headlining droops a bit, but doesn't bother me, and the electrical aerial doesn't always fully retract.

 

On the plus side, the air-con is ice-cold, the electric steering column still does its funky stuff, even the electric headrests still work. No heated seats, however, despite it being a sovereign. Does have an excellent carphone though, and another spare in the armrest. 

I've no idea why I stuck with Rover 75s for so long. The XJ is thirsty, but less thirsty than most of my other cars, so I can live with it. 

 

[Guest Hooli]

230k? Impressive. Must be run in by now.

[richardthestag]

ok so the list of stuff to fix grows a little but I r gave it a 400mile shakedown this week. Mainly motorways and mainly at 70-80 and it returned 26mpg.

 

Stuff that needs fixing

1. front anti roll bar bushes

2. MOT

3. thermostat is stuck open or aint there - no heater at motorway speeds

4. If it aint there work out why it was removed - Rad, Fans etc

5. Rear view mirror doesnt auto dip. Not a real beef but cannot dip it at all.

6. Radio Aerial is stuck half up

7. CD changer and rear park sensors dont work - same fuse should be an easy fix

8. headlining held up by glittery pins

 

ARB Bushes are on their way and will fit this weekend I hope. then MOT.

 

Thermostat might be hiding a Bunged up Rad which may be a bit of a £450 sized pain. looking at recore and 2nd hand.

 

The rest is leccy stuff and will be done with hammers and 2nd hand bits

 

Latest n/s/r passenger door wont open from the outside! Checking MOT rules

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

ok so the list of stuff to fix grows a little but I r gave it a 400mile shakedown this week. Mainly motorways and mainly at 70-80 and it returned 26mpg.

 

Stuff that needs fixing

1. front anti roll bar bushes

2. MOT

3. thermostat is stuck open or aint there - no heater at motorway speeds

4. If it aint there work out why it was removed - Rad, Fans etc

5. Rear view mirror doesnt auto dip. Not a real beef but cannot dip it at all.

6. Radio Aerial is stuck half up

7. CD changer and rear park sensors dont work - same fuse should be an easy fix

8. headlining held up by glittery pins

 

ARB Bushes are on their way and will fit this weekend I hope. then MOT.

 

Thermostat might be hiding a Bunged up Rad which may be a bit of a £450 sized pain. looking at recore and 2nd hand.

 

The rest is leccy stuff and will be done with hammers and 2nd hand bits

 

Latest n/s/r passenger door wont open from the outside! Checking MOT rules

 

 

The door latch mechanism is probably different on the X308, but sometimes removing the door card and lubricating all the latch components can solve the 'won't open from outside' door problem on XJ40s.

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

 

 

Wouldn't it be great to go to a Jaguar Specialist garage and find this is all they ever work with?

 

 

 

 

 

Jaguar obviously thought you need more tools for an XJ40!!

 

[richardthestag]

MoT is passed

 

Got back door open by wiggling the lock open and closed a dozen time and then fatha thestag lifting the door handle from the outside while I pushed from the inside. Removed door card and lubed up the lock and mechanism with silicon lube. works a treat now

 

CD Player was properly jammed with a small bit of plastic but there is still no power to the unit. suspect that the cable is disconnected at the back of the head unit

 

Radio aerial just needed cleaning and lubing.

 

Anti roll bar bushes fitted for MOT and passed

 

Found that the XJ8 has a second water pump to feed the interior heater and a valve that shuts off the feed when aircon is on, The pump runs but is rough as fuck so another was bought of the bay for £35 which I will try fit tomorrow. Thermostat needs to be changed too.

 

 

Not fixed anything else yet.

[richardthestag]

Update

 

Update, I have been using the Jaaag this month as Range Rover daily is stranded in Devon with multiple snapped bolts on the timing cover/engine block. I was only changing the waterpump and it changed into a  2 day jop. Going back to Devon next weekend to finish it.

 

Anyway averaging 21 around town and around 27 at motorway speed

 

Sounds woofly and very comfy, but I am tiring of watching the fuel gauge move. Round town the Range Rover is cheaper to run, on a motorway they are about the same. I think I just prefer the lofty driving position of the RR. Also and amused to find the Jag window line is lower than an MX5. 

 

Here it is in Hughenden Park

 

 

 

Anyway finally got around to sorting the thermostat yesterday. Had bought a stat and o-ring already but that helpfully was in North Devon so I bought another.

 

Removal is 3 8mm bolts, the housing is aluminium. the bolts seemed extra tight and each released with a crack, and then a second crack as they became finger tight. Sphincter muscles were working fucking overtime I'll tell you.

 

Anyway moved the top hose out and found that the thermostat was jammed slightly open

 

 

Boiled it up with new thermostat and found the old unit was jammed. 

 

 

 

Now, temp gauge is bang in the middle, heating works a treat.

 

Noice

 

 

[richardthestag]

So updated to do list

 

Stuff that needs fixing

1. front anti roll bar bushes

2. MOT

3. thermostat is stuck open or aint there - no heater at motorway speeds

4. If it aint there work out why it was removed - Rad, Fans etc

5. Rear view mirror doesnt auto dip. Not a real beef but cannot dip it at all. disconnected and reconnect and works just fine

6. Radio Aerial is stuck half up, lubed it up

7. CD changer and rear park sensors dont work - same fuse should be an easy fix - isnt an easy fix. investigating!

8. headlining held up by glittery pins

9. a bush is clonking away n/s/r now. suspect ARB or damper bush

10. needs rust sorting on o/s/r and o/s/f wheelarches

11. Aircon needs a regas

12. n/s/r door intermittent fault opening from outside

[richardthestag]

May 2017 update

 

nothing has changed from the list ^^

 

except Fatha Thastag wanted to get the autobox fluid and filter changed.

 

A lengthy saga, two filters and drains so far, the fluid is still coming out murky

 

The dreaded "gearbox fault" message has popped up twice now. I suggested starting and while stationary running the gearstick through all the options a couple of times* (to exercise the valve block a bit) and since then no warning message. The gearbox does chatter slightly changing from first to second. I reckon it is a toxic shock from the new fluid suddenly after 160k miles. oops.

 

Ran the Jag up to the pub tonight and it is no longer chattering every time from 1st to 2nd. the changes are smooth as silk

 

Next step, give it a good run and change the fluid again. £50 in fluid each time is bordering on "wish we hadnt started this shit" now

 

Fatha Thestag is also struggling to cope with the Jag overhang in front of the front wheels and has scuffed both front corners .. rattle can is waiting on a dry day in North devon. We may wait a while

[Isaac Hunt]

Good boughtage. When I seen £795 for no history and no MOT, I things 'bout all it worth' but then I seez it has MOT 2 months so it is Bargain barge

 

 

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[Junkman]

Buying cheap Jags is just plain stupid.

Hence we did it, too.

 

[Wack]

 Pins holding the headliner up is a $12,000 option on a RR Phantom

[richardthestag]

Das Jaaag is getting better with every mile. Gearbox is uber smooth 2nd gear and above,

 

issue was with 1st and change to 2nd

. no more gearbox error massages

 

chattering on 1st-2nd change is largely gone

pump is now silent all the time, even on cold start up

 

fluid is nearly clear red colour

 

one more change might cause it to grenade or give it a clean bill of health!

 

Might leave the fluid change a month or five

[richardthestag]

stuff that needs fixing is adapting slightly

 

7. CD changer and rear park sensors dont work - same fuse should be an easy fix - isnt an easy fix. investigating!

CD Changer removed and stripped to find a lump of plastic jamming the cartridge in the machine, now liberated the cartridge goes in and can be manually ejected. No power at the unit though! Suspect that the cable from the back of the head unit has removed to save the almost certain CD change errorage on the head unit. need to remove centre console and investigate further. there is no fuse, the change appears to be attached directly to the head unit by a dedicated loom.

 

No idea what the issue is with the reverse sensors but judging by the state of the front bumper it is not reversing that is challenging Fatha thastag

 

 

8. headlining held up by glittery pins

feature will likely stay

 

9. a bush is clonking away n/s/r now. suspect ARB or damper bush

clonking has gone away - car may be haunted

 

10. needs rust sorting on o/s/r and o/s/f wheelarches

rust not getting any better, paint shop busy, when I get a chance I will gently flappydisc back to steel and see what is going on, both o/s arches have bubbles

 

11. Aircon needs a regas

on hold pending rest of shit above, 

 

12. n/s/r door intermittent fault opening from outside

adjusted the lock mechanism, still sometimes needs a surprise tug on the outside handle to get it open. i.e. If you make it obvious that you intend to open the back n/s door from the outside it will not allow you to do so. However if you causally make it look like you want to open the front passenger door but at the last second lunge for the rear door handle it opens every single time. Haunted

 

13. nasty scuffs on both corners of the front bumper. Needs sanding back and rattle canning I think

 

14. o/s door sometimes will not open from the inside, like the child lock is activated, it isn't. Opens fine from the outside. going to get door card off and lube the fuck out of the mechanism

 

Other than that 17 year old Jaaag continues to amuse and delight in equal quantities