Abolish ROAD TAX SIGN MY PETTION PLEASE.

[scaryoldcortina]

It's only for new cars though, 2006-17 cars still get humped.

I know, but you have to have hope for the future, right?

[Pillock]

Abolish VED and increase the tax on something I don't buy, like salad. Or slippers.

[Guest Burger1]

As many said, petitions are basically pointless..

[Station]

I don't mind paying road tax, and I'm taxing three cars a month, as long as it goes the roads.

[chaseracer]

Which it clearly doesn't...

[JohnDeere]

I'll re-propose my foolproof* plan. Use highly-accurate GPS to do road pricing.

 

Lane 1: 0.5p / mile

Lane 2: 5p / mile

Lane 3: 25p / mile

 

Motorway congestion cut at a stroke.

[New POD]

I like the idea of no tax on cars, or fuel.  Instead, we should have higher income tax. And make all the people involved in taxing cars, redundant. Who will then claim the dole paid for by even higher income tax.

[Pillock]

Why do we need it at all?

Why are the options "pay for it in a lump sum" or "put it on petrol"? Where's option 3 which is "since it doesn't go on the roads, just scrap it. Or increase the tax payable on a new car, so it's a one-off payment for the life of that car."

 

I read today that The Internet is now considered a basic human right, yet it seems that being able to get from one place to another without bankrupting yourself is still a luxury. If you put it on fuel, bus and train fares will go up too. And yeah, I know some trains run on electricity, but if bus fares go up they can increase all train fares anyway since the competition got more expensive. And any company that pays employees travel expenses (read: most of them for some job roles) or transports goods via road will put prices up too, so now your next TV or loaf of bread will cost more. We all know that actually it shouldn't, since they're saving money on truck tax, but that won't stop them.

 

Remember a bunch of weirdos on the internet who own, on average, 27 cars each isn't "normal", so any argument that it costs too much to have more than one car won't stick. "Just have one" they'll say, probably followed by "and get rid of that thing that's rusting away on the driveway".

[inconsistant]

I'd love to see how much VED would go up to if it was used to pay for everything that was a consequence of car use. Road construction repair and upgrading, health, pollution, road traffic accidents, a&e staffing, policing, mining salt to grit the roads, white line paint, road sign manufacture and installation, motorway lighting energy use, tyre disposal, used engine oil disposal, etc, a lot of which I would think are paid for by all, including those that don't own or use a car via various taxes.

 

The fossil fuel industry gets $550billion a year in subsidies, which covers gas, oil and coal production. If crude oil makes up 1/3 of fossil fuel production, and  about half of all crude oil is refined into petrol, then global subsidies for petrol would be about $100 billion. It's not just drivers who are paying for that at the moment.

Can't find out what % of petrol the UK consumes but pretty sure it would be a big number.

[New POD]

I'll re-propose my foolproof* plan. Use highly-accurate GPS to do road pricing.

 

Lane 1: 0.5p / mile

Lane 2: 5p / mile

Lane 3: 25p / mile

 

Motorway congestion cut at a stroke.

 

Needs to be far more complex.  Involving both speed, and the average distance you leave to the vehicle in front in comparison to stopping distances. If we can add in the lane pricing as well.

 

Price = Ideal Stopping Distance / Actual gap left X stopping distance constant price X lane constant price X ( Google Directions Anticipated journey time/ Actual Journey time)Xmiles/10

 

So Leave 1/2 the ideal gap travel in lane 3 and get to your destination one hundred miles away quicker than google says :

 

2/1X25pX25pX2/1x100/10 = £250

 

or Leave the idea gap, travel in lane 1, and get to your destination 100 miles away in twice the time google predicts:

 

1/1*25p*0.5p*2/4*100/10 =£0.625

 

Or leave idea gap, travel in lane 2, equal the google time

 

1/1*25p*5p*2/2*100/10=£12.50

[HillmanImp]

Its all Brexit's fault. I thought we wouldn't need to pay car tax if we left the EU. The NHS were going to pick up the bill or something?

[HH-R]

I've noticed round us they're not repairing or replacing speed humps that are damaged, they just remove them and smooth the road over.  GOOD.

I wish Northumberland County Council would take a leaf out of this book, they're obsessed with the fucking things.

[HH-R]

Needs to be far more complex.  Involving both speed, and the average distance you leave to the vehicle in front in comparison to stopping distances. If we can add in the lane pricing as well.

 

Price = Ideal Stopping Distance / Actual gap left X stopping distance constant price X lane constant price X ( Google Directions Anticipated journey time/ Actual Journey time)Xmiles/10

 

So Leave 1/2 the ideal gap travel in lane 3 and get to your destination one hundred miles away quicker than google says :

 

2/1X25pX25pX2/1x100/10 = £250

 

or Leave the idea gap, travel in lane 1, and get to your destination 100 miles away in twice the time google predicts:

 

1/1*25p*0.5p*2/4*100/10 =£0.625

 

Or leave idea gap, travel in lane 2, equal the google time

 

1/1*25p*5p*2/2*100/10=£12.50

 

Don't forget the modern Audi owners' tax, which takes it up to ∞ per mile.

[Eddie Honda]

It's not road pricing, but could work in Britain where most long distance haulage is done my foreign operators who buy their fuel in France and Belgium.

For more than two years now, the UK has had HGV Levy and the HGV VED rates were adjusted down to make it broadly neutral for UK hauliers.

https://www.gov.uk/government/collections/hgv-road-user-levy

[Mr A Lawrence]

I read it somewhere the other day and it was referred to as "vehicle emissions duty"

 

I don't pay any so it wouldn't bother me.

[oldcars]

I'd gladly pay 10x road tax a year if all the speed bumps were relocated to the commute of the people who gave them the green light.

Speed humps are a pest, the worst ones are the single ones in the middle of a lane, right bugger in the Reliant no matter what way to hit them.

[BorniteIdentity]

For people like me, this kind of proposal would save lots of cash per year!

 

I barely use the cars these days. Over the last 5 months I have only covered around 1000 miles across 2 cars I own!

Don't get me wrong, I know why we are supposed to pay the vehicle excise duty, but the money seldom gets to where it should be used (like fixing the spine shattering surfaces in some places).

 

I end up paying above £40 a month for the unfortunate privilege of keeping 2 cars and then around £800 in combined insurance cost and god only knows how much in petrol .... I hardly use the damn things, yet there isn't really a sliding scale for folks that use their cars lightly and only when necessary! My car is my mobility and it would be nice to shed a few of those ved £'s.

 

I think it's a good plan but it will never be a reality so consider signed!

 

1) Drive your cars more

2) Experienced immediate increase in value for money.

3) Win at life

4) Rinse and repeat

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