Double divorce, happy marriage, happy end - Warning: Tagora content - November 2017 update

[pshome]

Update on the Dinin Tagora PRV.

Completed the engine work today, carbs adjusted, CO is fine, seems to run OK, but no road test done yet.

Valves rattle a lot in spite of just being adjusted, seems a lot of dirt still in there.

Cylinder 4 was giving a bit of trouble refusing to fire at idle. A shot of DOT4 into the carb sorted it with a big puff and a nice cloud, fun!

[Skizzer]

Valve rattle? A Talbot? Surely not.

[Asimo]

Valve rattle?

Maybe check the clearance between the rockers and the cover, there is very little space, a new gasket let a rocker hit the cover on the PRV V6 in my Alpine? Sounded awful.

[pshome]

Valve rattle?

Maybe check the clearance between the rockers and the cover, there is very little space, a new gasket let a rocker hit the cover on the PRV V6 in my Alpine? Sounded awful.

 

Aha, so that's how the cheeky Talbot engineers made the PRV sound like a genuine Talbot! ..

 

I will check the cover for any signs of the rockers banging the cover, but i think its unlikely. Tagora has the old steel cover on one side and the later aluminium (which is much higher) hat on the other, both sides rattle.

[Faker]

yep,i got a copy. Article is about Tony Owen and his Smca Talbot collection including the white Tagora GL VGA800W.

 

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That's epic. Must track down a copy.

[pshome]

Took off both covers, no signs of rockers hitting them, double checked valve clearance, all perfect, still rattles. Remember: engine has been sitting for 24 years, i am confident it just needs to be driven a bit and things will smooth out.

 

Today's work was a bit hit and miss...

 

Choke lever to be installed in the center console, something Talbot properly bodged. I left that job to Michael and ignored the constant moaning coming from inside the car.

 

 

Got myself busy installing the airbox, trumpets, choke flap mounted on the side of the airbox and various tubes around that.

 

Looks nice, but...

 

 

.. after two hours annoying fiddling it became clear that the front end of the choke cable is the wrong position and choke would only travel half way. This of course can only be adjusted with the airbox off...

[Junkman]

.. after two hours annoying fiddling it became clear that the front end of the choke cable is the wrong position and choke would only travel half way. This of course can only be adjusted with the airbox off...

I always thought stuff like this is only a Rover botherer's speciality...

[pshome]

Paul, the Dinin Tagora got a new look, engine and drivetrain, but still has its shabby interior with integrating door boards, crumbling or missing plastic all around, cracked seat covers and a roof lining fastened with pins.

 

Time to use the sunny autumn days to replace the interior with the good one we saved from the Tagora SX that donated the V6 engine.

 

Paul's interior is quickly removed, and the first step is to replace the stained beige carpet with the freshly washed grey one from the donor car.

 

 

With a little jerking and pushing, it's in, that was an easy start.

 

 

We continue with the dashboard, looks like a lot of work, in the end it was done quickly. Loosen the steering column, a few screws, the cables are all fitted with plugs and that's it. The freshly polished centre console and the steering wheel column trim complete that day’s work.

 

 

The roof is more work, the old one falls down on its own, the Gauls' fear of this danger is absolutely justified.

 

 

Since we had the cardboard braking into parts when doing Theo’s (the golden Tagora) roof, we decided to leave it in place this time. Gets just a good brushing so that the new cloth will stick.

 

 

The new cloth will just be glued onto the board while in place. The seller assured me that the special padding adhesive does not penetrate and cause ugly stains, as it unfortunately happened with Theo. Looks good!

 

 

Next step: the roof trim. It’s made out of brittle plastic that loses all elasticity over time and breaks if you only look at it. Even with the all the bits we have saved out of four different Tagora, a complete set can only be assembled after gluing some broken parts together.

 

 

After all, there's nothing missing, that's worth a lot.

 

 

The mends are reinforced so that they do not break away again when being installed.. A can of spray paint ensures uniform grey.

 

 

Of course, it didn't go well, three mends turned into five at the end. Next time I'll be gluing reinforcing plastic strips all around before I start the installation.

Many hours and curses later everything is fine.

Finding a complete set of unbroken handles (made out of unobtainium) in my parts bin lifts the mood enormously.

 

 

The next step is the hat rack, fresh imitation leather straight out of Ebay lets the sunburned part shine in a new brilliance.

 

 

 

The seats urgently need a deep cleaning with carpet foam which also chases the rather unpleasant smell.

 

 

The headrests look particularly bad, one of the previous owners was apparently a bulk consumer of hair pomade.

 

 

At the end of the day everything is as good as new and the seats invite you to a comfortable ride without having to worry about getting a skin disease.

 

 

The thoroughly cleaned door panels and side trims are ready for installation.

 

 

A strip of adhesive tape prevents the upper edge from fraying and facilitates installation.

 

 

Looks good!

 

 

Finish line: Instrument panel, on-board computer and a new cassette radio find their place. Now Paul is a real SX with a height-adjustable driver's seat, headrests at the rear and an additional cigarette lighter for the gentlemen in the rear seats.

 

[barrett]

Great work! Let me know if you ever find a nice cheap Tagore for sale...

[pshome]

Great work! Let me know if you ever find a nice cheap Tagore for sale...

 

This one is for sale, fleet reeduction needed. Good nice V6 Tagora no longer go for cheap...

[beko1987]

Wow!

[bezzabsa]

the joy of old fashioned mechanicals......one day driveline swap....imagine that now with say a Merc C class??? Or BMW 5 series....take you a week to unplug all the electrics!!!

 

Much Kudos for the swap - and keeping the V6 alive 

[Split_Pin]

Theres something very satisfying about renovating a cars interior and yours now looks like a new car inside!

[Talbot]

Back 20-ish years ago, I could have picked any one of about 10 Tagoras that I saw fairly regularly here and there, and bought one (or all of them) for buttons.  They were utterly valueless, and steel was at about 4p/tonne.

 

I'd love to have one now.  It's begging for either a V8 conversion or something like a breathed-on OM606 to make it daily useable but blatantly fast.  Suspect they're a tadge more expensive now.

[pshome]

Back 20-ish years ago, I could have picked any one of about 10 Tagoras that I saw fairly regularly here and there, and bought one (or all of them) for buttons.  They were utterly valueless, and steel was at about 4p/tonne.

 

I'd love to have one now.  It's begging for either a V8 conversion or something like a breathed-on OM606 to make it daily useable but blatantly fast.  Suspect they're a tadge more expensive now.

 

Tagora is plenty fast enough and no V8 will ever provide the thrill and roaring sound of an odd fire PRV breathing through a pair of  Weber triple carbs...

 

[pshome]

by the way, this is why V6 Tagora are expensive, you pay for a pair of Webers, the car itself is for free...

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/371954494342

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/142427029185

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm//263224780901

 

etc....

 

Say thank you to the Porsche 911 price madness. 

[Pillock]

Those seats look amazingly comfy. You could rent out that Tagora as an AirBnB

[pshome]

Those seats look amazingly comfy. You could rent out that Tagora as an AirBnB

 

AirBNB? No, it will make a lot more €€€ renting the rear sofa out by the hour, got new shocks recently!

[Split_Pin]

 

This was one of the first videos I remember watching on You Tube. Wonderful.