Lethal keyless ignition...

[Twiggy]

Has this happened in the U.K ?

 

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ten-automakers-sued-over-keyless-ignitions-143324150--finance.html#LVu4CqC

[michael1703]

So they are suing because when they take the key out of their car it keeps running?

 

Why can't they press the stop button?

[Dippy]

So some new car owners cant be arsed to turn off the engine before leaving the car, we need to get back to the old days when you had to interact with a car to make it run.

[alf892]

Haven't seen anything............maybe we are less stupid?

 

So if you don't switch your car off it may keep running and kill you in a confined space? Who'd think it?

 

Even if you were that daft surely stuff with keyless will also have stop start?......unless switched off.

 

I once left the handbrake off and my car nearly ran me over. I thought this was because I was stupid but now I realise it was the manufacturer's fault.

[Formula Autos]

So lazy bastards are just walking away from their cars and expecting them to switch off by themselves?

 

Natural selection if they end up gassed, then.

 

I've got a stop/start button on my modern and never find it any hardship to press a button and knock the engine off.

[fordperv]

Who would have thought that fumes from a running car can kill you, fucking idiots

[rainagain]

I left a some food cooking on the stove, now my house has burnt down, who do I sue about the lack of auto switch off on the cooker?

[garbaldy]

we need to get back to the old days when you had to interact with a car to make it run.

Ah yes a good thrashing with a tree to make it go, those where the days

[garethj]

It used to be against the law to leave your car unattended with the engine running, wonder if this is the case in America?  Let the manufacturers get in there with a counterclaim!

 

It wouldn't be common sense but as the only people winning are the lawyers, it'll probably happen.

[mercrocker]

Yep, more proof that worthwhile automotive development ceased before the end of the last century. Same can be said for human evolution.

[dave21478]

People that stupid shouldnt be allowed to own cars.

[stephen01]

as far as I know the Leaf will switch its self off once the key is not detected, however that's not going to kill you is it even if I left it 'running'

[STUNO]

It must be the manufacturers fault. Nobody told the new owner that they had to use the STOP button to stop the engine, they all think that if you walk away the engine will stop, as it will not start without the card so it must also stop without the card. BUT it takes quite a while to build up enough gas to get you unconscious. The unfortunate 13 must have sat beside the car in the sealed garage waiting for the car to stop for some time.

[tooSavvy]

My Dobbie Van has 'auto stop/start'... bastard thing!!

 

Kangarooing away from the lights with the engine half-alive is NO joke.

 

I always forget to tip the 'deactivate' switch until too late - fucksticks.

 

 

KEY &Twist f.t.w.

 

 

TS

[Taff]

13 less twats on the planet, IMHO

[cort16]

On a lot of cars with start stop when you stop the car and let the clutch up the engine stops. I could see (if you're thick) why you may get out the car and wander off at this point. The car will start itself back up when it detects the battery is getting low.

[strangeangel]

Lethal... but only to the terminally stupid.

 

There are times when I really, seriously despair of my fellow man and this is one of them.

[lisbon_road]

I was on a ferry recently.  A message came out asking a passenger to return to their vehicle as the engine was running.

 

Beggars belief as they say. 

[dave21478]

On a lot of cars with start stop when you stop the car and let the clutch up the engine stops. I could see (if you're thick) why you may get out the car and wander off at this point. The car will start itself back up when it detects the battery is getting low.

 

Merkins dont really "do" clutches though - in fact as far as I can make out there is a very large percentage of them who have never driven a manual and dont know how to - Auto boxes are the norm over there.

I could say something crass like auto boxes free up their arm and allow them to concentrate on munching burgers and shooting things, but I wouldnt.......oops, I said it anyway.

[Sloth in a bowl]

I just downloaded a random BMW user manual and it clearly states not to leave the car running in enclosed areas due to carbon monoxide.

It also clearly states to switch the car off using the stop button.

Not sure what else they are expected to do other than not sell a car to people until they have signed a form saying that they have read the manual.

[Noel Tidybeard]

On a lot of cars with start stop when you stop the car and let the clutch up the engine stops. I could see (if you're thick) why you may get out the car and wander off at this point. The car will start itself back up when it detects the battery is getting low.

no the system deactivates when you take off seat belt and/or open door

[jonny69]

I ONCE FORGOT TO PRESS THE BRAKE AND ALMOST CRASHED INTO THE CAR IN FRONT. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE.

[HH-R]

I don't understand, are they just walking away, leaving the engine running?

 

Torn between saying "dear me" at their daftness and "keyless ignition, what is point?".

[scaryoldcortina]

http://www.odt.co.nz/regions/central-otago/327080/couple-close-death-after-night-stuck-keyless-car

 

Some folk fail to realize that it is possible to unlock the car by using the handle on the door....

 

Mazda New Zealand general manager Glenn Harris said the report of the couple being trapped in the car in that manner was an industry first.

[anonymous user]

Pah, keyless start, keyless entry, it's been around for years. My Lotus 7, Morgans and most of the Land Rovers have been keyless entry, in fact most didn't even have external door handles or, in the case of the Lotus, doors. With my old Cambridge it was easier to stall the engine first, then search around on the floor for the fallen out ignition key to turn the ignition off. If you couldn't find the key any other key or screwdriver would do.

[richardthestag]

Darwinism at it best.

 

Over here we didnt write "avoid using in close confines of a tent like structure" on disposable BBQs. nor did we add the disclaimer "especially so if your primary objective is a source or warmth rather than cooking some chicken or maybe a few porky whites."  Thus we experienced a similar outcry as that in the US of A but with less £bn court action and more "daft cunt" type comments.

 

The affected septics are obviously too stupid to drive a car let alone own one. My thoughts are with any innocent party caught up in the schenanigans etc etc

 

PS my old Ford Anglia could be opened and started with a lolly stick. I could walk away with the keys in my pocket but the engine still running. Question is... do I sue Walls or Ford?

[laser wheels]

http://www.odt.co.nz/regions/central-otago/327080/couple-close-death-after-night-stuck-keyless-car

 

Some folk fail to realize that it is possible to unlock the car by using the handle on the door....

 

 

 

Mrs Smith said she had decided to ''go public'' as people needed to be aware of the risks of keyless cars, particularly older people inexperienced in new technology.

 

Personally I would have kept the incident very much to myself out of sheer embarrassment but whatever.

[laser wheels]

Not sure what else they are expected to do other than not sell a car to people until they have signed a form saying that they have taken an I.Q. test.

 

FTFY.

 

And do you know what is really scary? These same people are allowed guns. And shoes. And sandwich toasters. And mittens that aren't attached to their coats by string.

[richardthestag]

FTFY.

 

And do you know what is really scary? These same people are allowed guns. And shoes. And sandwich toasters. And mittens that aren't attached to their coats by string.

 

Yes but they are clever because the sandwich toaster is also a trouser press that they stole from the Ramada on the edge of town

 

 

see? giant toasties

[mouseflakes]

http://www.odt.co.nz/regions/central-otago/327080/couple-close-death-after-night-stuck-keyless-car

 

Some folk fail to realize that it is possible to unlock the car by using the handle on the door....

 

 

Mazda New Zealand general manager Glenn Harris said the report of the couple being trapped in the car in that manner was an industry first.

 

What I find incredible is that these people must have managed somehow to earn enough money in their lifetimes to able to finance a new car. During the thirteen hours they were 'trapped' did neither of them wonder what the button beside the door handle was for? If you're incapable of working out how to unlock a car door from the inside by the time you're in your sixties then how can you ever have been employable?