What the heck is this wheel off?

[barrett]

Any ideas? It came from a small car trailer that used to be a very small caravan (just the right size for moving 1922 Peugeot around). We need a spare wheel really, but the local trailer place were perplexed as to its origins. I guess it's actually a car wheel as it has nodule thingies for a hubcap to clip onto.

 

Some rough idea of size and PCD in the photos, but I'm hoping somebody will just recognise it instantly. It has two very faint markings cast in to it that read 'GP' and 'R127Y' (I think)

 

 

 

 

Any suggestions, however stupid, gratefully received 

 

Cheers!

[CHRIS1980]

I would have said an Austin fx 4 taxi,or some other RWD Austin.

[anonymous user]

The style does fit with Austin, looks very like an Austin Devon wheel, but I think they may be 16", perhaps off the later A50?

[PiperCub]

Odd, the PCD is a bit weird going by your ruler - about 95mm?? 100 - yes but 95? Or is it an old imperial size?

 

Has the look of something from the 50's - big diameter, skinny tyre.

[Station]

Morris/Austin etc 95.25= 95.25mm PCD.

[hairnet]

4x4 inch austin or rootes?

[barrett]

Might see if one of the Atlantic wheels will fit in that case, or is that gonna be something totally different because stupid Austin

[anonymous user]

This one is on teh ebay tat thread, if you zoom in on the wheel on the bonnet it has the same spare wheel lugs so you may be onto the right track

[seth]

Early Austin Devons are 4.5" (108mm) - I have a set of those. Not sure if really early ones were 4" PCD, which is what I think that one you have is.   Nothing Austin/Morris is 3 3/4" (95.25) until you get to Marinas.

Were very early Minors or perhaps early Minor commercials on 15" wheels?

 

If it is 4" PCD it might be easier to get hold of three 14" Minor wheels assuming the trailer sits OK with them.

[PiperCub]

Morris/Austin etc 95.25= 95.25mm PCD.

Cheers - You live and learn!

[Ronnie L]

If the trailer is fitted with standard caravan / trailer hubs you might be as well to change them for ones that fit a modern, easily available wheel. I've done that in the past to solve a similar problem.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Don't talk to me about flippin trailer hubs

[twosmoke300]

J4 ?

[crapcarcollector]

Don't talk to me about flippin trailer hubs

Car trailer still giving you grief?

 

I rebuilt mine a couple years ago, could have bought a Williams one once I finished!

[Justin Case]

A40 Devon and Somerset have 16" wheels; the A40/A50 Cambridge have 15" wheels with 4 slots, like yours, so that could be it

[seth]

Here is a Devon wheel (4 x 4 1/4") (108mm) behind an Anglia wheel.  I'd forgotten but looking at the photo these are actually 16"

 

 

Valve is in a different position relative to the slots/stud holes compared to yours too.

 

FX4 Taxis would appear to be 5 stud.

[eddyramrod]

My first thought was Hillman Minx, late 50s.  Like so...

Pretty sure they had 15" wheels up to about 1963-ish, and they would be 4-stud.

[seth]

/\.  They do. They are also 4 1/4" PCD

[Cavcraft]

I reckon it's off a caravan.

[D Spares & Tyres]

MGF wheel should fit that stud pattern.

[Ghosty]

I was going to suggest FX4 as well but some research tells me they're 16".

 

I'd also have said a stacklight Benz but they're all 5 stud. 

 

Minor perhaps?

[STUNO]

I am sure it is the Hillman above, or the previous model, as soon as I saw it I thought Hillman and am sure they had those lugs for the cap.

[Ghosty]

A couple of thoughts...

 

I'd say valve position is irrelevant as the 'face' of the wheel can be welded in at pretty much any angle.

 

The Minx seems to be roughly 4x108 though, which would put it out of the running.

 

Centre bore size may be worth considering.

[Angrydicky]

Yes, Hillman would be my guess as well, there's a guy in the Counties club who tows a huge caravan with his Somerset and fits 15" Hillman wheels on the back to lower the ratio for towing.

 

Can't think of any Austin/Morris/BMC cars of that era with 15" wheels as standard. Most of the Austin Counties cars were 16", A40/50 were 14" and so was the Oxford/Cowley range, I think. Minors are 14" as well.

[jonny69]

There is a 15" Devon steel as well as the 16". The hotrodders like them.

[seth]

Can't think of any Austin/Morris/BMC cars of that era with 15" wheels as standard. Most of the Austin Counties cars were 16", A40/50 were 14" and so was the Oxford/Cowley range, I think. Minors are 14" as well.

 

My reference tells me that A40 Cambridges were on 15" wheels.  Almost certainly 4 1/2" PCD though.

If Barrett could confirm the PCD (the photo makes it slightly tricky to gauge due to the parallax but I reckon is 4") then we could discount lots of possibilities. 

[Taff]

There is a 15" Devon steel as well as the 16". The hotrodders like them.

 

The Hillman 15" rim is the same 4-stud pattern as the Ford escort/capri/Cortina. The Minx rims are also popular amongst the Hotrod fraternity.

 

Taxi rims are 15" 5-stud