Best car in the (real) world?

[Parky]

If this was a New Zealand forum, this would be four pages of people saying "Corolla. End of."

 

So with a Kiwi wife and experience of two of them, I will say Corolla of pretty much any generation. Reliable, easy to fix, inoffensive, do what you need without breaking down or using too much juice.

 

Last one I had was a 1993 "Executive" model with an auto box. Ten years old when i got it, 3 years owned by me and two by Parky senior. Total additional running costs were one fan belt to cure a squeak, two tyres, and an annual oil change (dead easy).

 

Corolla. End of.

[Des]

Range Rover Classic. Obviously no need to explain, other than why a Rangy trumps a Bristol, albeit by a whisker. The RR can offer round 7'' headlamps and ABS together, and ten good RR can be had for the cost of one Bristol.

[D Spares & Tyres]

Hmmm

 

Not sure about Range Rovers.....

 

Or XJ40s...

 

If you want to discuss XJ40s being the best car in the world then this is probably not the best place for that discussion

 

There is a chap in town though that would like to hear that. He has a nice comfy leather couch that you could lie on while you tell him all about it.....

 

He probably will charge though

[fordperv]

R8 rover 214

[Honey Badger]

R8 rover 214

Raise you a 420 tourer.

[MarvinsMom]

and i raise you a rover 75 diesel estate (tourer?)

[fordperv]

Raise you a 420 tourer.

I Raise you a 420 gsi turbo to upset the audi/bmw drivers

[D Spares & Tyres]

and I`ll raise my HIAB.....

[fred]

and I`ll raise my HIAB.....

So 4 pages of options - what is thy conclusion young Tom

[Honey Badger]

and I`ll raise my HIAB.....

To scrap that French wreck and buy a classy diesel car?

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-418-SLD-TURBO-TOURER-ESTATE-DIESEL-1-OWNER-/251947911005?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3aa944075d

 

XUD power I believe. Not sure if pumpe Bosch?

 

(Can't post a pic cuz iPads r shit)

[fred]

To scrap that French wreck and buy a classy diesel car?

 

 

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ROVER-418-SLD-TURBO-TOURER-ESTATE-DIESEL-1-OWNER-/251947911005?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item3aa944075d

 

XUD power I believe. Not sure if pumpe Bosch?

 

(Can't post a pic cuz iPads r shit)

 

 

There you go sire

[D Spares & Tyres]

I do like those tourers, especially with the XUD

 

Even the K series isn`t as bad as legend would have it

 

And being a Honda design they handle pretty well

 

But..................

 

Still think Scenic is a better all rounder, I shall not be swayed

 

There are plenty of other good cars but Scenic suits my needs the best, when it dies I`m noot sure what would replace it.

 

The later scenic is a heap of crap

[D Spares & Tyres]

and i raise you a rover 75 diesel estate (tourer?)

A mate had one of those and I was suprised how good it was. Bit underpowered though but with another chip should be better

 

Am I right in thinking though that underneath it is a 5 series BMW converted to front wheel drive?

[MarvinsMom]

no, i think they are very much rovers own work, but they are about the same size as a BMWhocares 300

 

mine was a 113hp one which was steady away, but its been remapped out to 160hp and that is much more lively, and oddly enough more economical.

 

 

it is pretty damn comfortable and costs me about the same in fuel as the nissan k12  micra it replaced.

 

however it is much more at home on the motorway flogging up and down the m1 than the nissan ever was. i used to get back from nottingham in that thing and i was ready to commit frigging genocide!!!!

 

 

[Junkman]

Range Rover Classic. Obviously no need to explain, other than why a Rangy trumps a Bristol, albeit by a whisker. The RR can offer round 7'' headlamps and ABS together, and ten good RR can be had for the cost of one Bristol.

 

^^

This.

 

Show me one transport requirement a Rangey can't handle, while it still isn't too bulky to fit in a normal parking space.

[DVee8]

My Nissan X-Trail as it does everything I need it to do.

[stripped fred]

no, i think they are very much rovers own work, but they are about the same size as a BMWhocares 300

 

mine was a 113hp one which was steady away, but its been remapped out to 160hp and that is much more lively, and oddly enough more economical.

 

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it is pretty damn comfortable and costs me about the same in fuel as the nissan k12 micra it replaced.

 

however it is much more at home on the motorway flogging up and down the m1 than the nissan ever was. i used to get back from nottingham in that thing and i was ready to commit frigging genocide!!!!

I've been looking at these. The owners club website has a very good buyers guide. One I've looked at has done 114k and had the clutch done at 47k. How long do the clutches and dmf's usually last?

[MarvinsMom]

the life of the clutch and dmf will depend on how the cars been driven, my 75 is currently on 109k and I don't think that they have been changed. plus at the moment, touch wood they seem to be ok. I have figured that they will need changing eventually, and when they do need doing, then they will get changed. many owners seem to scrap a car when it needs that doing.

 

drive the car like you stole it and I guess the clutch won't last too long, but drive the car like miss marple and I guess it will last forever.

 

I think it also makes a difference what bits were used in the swap, there are some pretty shitty pattern bits out there which don't seem to last 5 minutes!

 

I understand that 100k isn't that unusual on them, a cabby in York got quiet a lot more than that out of his original clutch and that was using the car as a cab, stop starting every day, all day, in a busy city centre.

[Magnificent Rustbucket]

Hmmm

 

Not sure about Range Rovers.....

 

Or XJ40s...

 

If you want to discuss XJ40s being the best car in the world then this is probably not the best place for that discussion

 

There is a chap in town though that would like to hear that. He has a nice comfy leather couch that you could lie on while you tell him all about it.....

 

He probably will charge though

 

 

The only car which could unequivocally be labelled the 'best in the world' is probably the Benz patent Motorwagen. It was unrivalled...

 

'Real world' differs by what you do and where you live. How you use the car, basically. I have a lot of fondness for the Range Rover, but I have no use for the main canon of its abilities. They still feel wonderful to smoke about in, which is why I love them. It's about feel; a visceral not an intellectual thing. That is what makes them memorable and (to me) highly desirable.

 

There are a few cars which have this ability to make you feel good just by their very existence - call it charisma, if you like. This is what matters to me most with a car. Nothing does it as well as a Rolls-Royce; they're peerless. The running costs are without peer either so that rules them out, at least for me. V8 Rovers are also highly charismatic cars. I have always feared the rust.

 

The XJ40 is not a crazy man's choice! They have the same appeal; they make you feel good about yourself, the car, the journey - hell even the thrusting sales execs don't seem so bad when you're cruising in a '40. Gliding along at your own pace, the rat race seems distant in my Sovereign; best left to other drivers whose pants might be on fire.

 

There is something indulgent about the XJ40. Driving one makes you feel like you have been kind to yourself; that you have bought something beautiful, something with an intrinsic worth - rather than an efficient, sterile piece of office equipment. Much as I admire the Mercedes W124, I have never wanted to own one.

 

Besides, the XJ40 did have a valid claim to being the best saloon car in the late 1980s. It was never much of an off roader or load lugger, but as a luxurious saloon, it was a very convincing design.

 

 

Nurse! ...Nurse! ...NURSE!!

[MiniMort]

I'd say a mk1 Citroën CX. My grandad had one for several years and it didn't break down once (that was in the mid 80s though but it wasn't new)

[D Spares & Tyres]

^^

This.

 

Show me one transport requirement a Rangey can't handle, while it still isn't too bulky to fit in a normal parking space.

economy

[andy18s]

My P38!

As it has just passed it's mot it therefore qualifies as 1 of the best!!

Of course,this is subject to change if it refuses to start tomorrow,flat battery,air suspension collapses ect ect......

[D Spares & Tyres]

^^

This.

 

Show me one transport requirement a Rangey can't handle, while it still isn't too bulky to fit in a normal parking space.

rust resistance

[Rusty_Rocket]

I would vote for the proper Range Rover too. Yeah, it has many flaws but it's just so bloody useful.

It is so classy compared to all modern 4x4s too.

[D Spares & Tyres]

In that case then I nominate my Niva

 

Discuss....

[forddeliveryboy]

I would vote for the proper Range Rover too. Yeah, it has many flaws but it's just so bloody useful.

It is so classy compared to all modern 4x4s too.

 

It's British. When we get things nearly right, they're bloody lovely - especially to British eyes. (Casually ignoring how one made a fool of itself trying to tow a boat, when a CX Safari did the job without the slightest bother).

[the judge]

Fuck it. E39 530d touring auto. Superb. *runs and hides*

[D Spares & Tyres]

Well, the best car in the world expired yesterday....

 

Went out to fetch an Indian takeaway and on the way back there was a flappy noise like I`d run a bit of plastic over

 

Pulled into my road, it lurched forward then stopped

 

As I tried to restart it I realised it didn`t sound right

 

Looked under bonnet and a small section of auxilliary belt is missing and unfortunately I know where its gone

 

Pretty sure the F8Q engine isn`t clearance

 

RIP

[vulgalour]

 

Either of these two.  I'm yet to find any real world job either of them can't do cheaply and without fuss.  Both cars have been boringly reliable and capable.

[D Spares & Tyres]

i pressed like for the Xantia

 

NOT the Corsa