Six Cylinders Motoring Notes - Not such a good day today!

[Six-cylinder]

The auto electrician said the trigger is from the coil/module.

 

The auto electrician said the wire between the coil and the ECU had continuity, but I can't remember if he said there was a trigger pulse. The ECU is located under the dash on the drivers side and is difficult to get too. I asked for the ECU part number but he could not read it without removing it, which involves a lot of dismantling of the dash etc. Getting to the ECU means standing on your head in the footwell.

 

I found this manual on line,  injection cars wiring seems to start page 338.

 

http://www.citrina.lt/failai/tech/_cx/Manual/CX_11.pdf

[Skizzer]

Come back carbs, all is forgiven. Engine swap with SiC's MGB?

[Six-cylinder]

Come back carbs, all is forgiven. Engine swap with SiC's MGB?

 

My carburettor Gamma has an on load misfire we are struggling with!

[SiC]

Give me an electrical fault anyday over carbs!

[Six-cylinder]

My MGB GT over a period of months developed  poor running, poor starting and eventually refused to start. Mrs6C having to tow me back from Silverstone with the Volvo XC70. All test gave strange results and that turned out to be the engine earth strap, not broken just corrosion.  

[Zelandeth]

This is where having two people comes in handy as one can be standing on their head with the meter or scope while you crank it etc.

 

Shouldn't take a huge amount of effort to at least pin down which of the basic blocks involved is responsible.

 

"It won't go" is far easier to troubleshoot to be honest than "it runs poorly"

 

...unlike modern injection setups where you've got CANbus, immobilisers and goodness knows what else involved!

[SiC]

My MGB GT over a period of months developed poor running, poor starting and eventually refused to start. Mrs6C having to tow me back from Silverstone with the Volvo XC70. All test gave strange results and that turned out to be the engine earth strap, not broken just corrosion.

Good mention. I've been meaning to do this for ages and carbs out makes it much easier.

 

 

 

Two earth's are better than one, right?

[Six-cylinder]

Two earth's are better than one, right?

 

I have one each side now!

[Six-cylinder]

This is where having two people comes in handy as one can be standing on their head with the meter or scope while you crank it etc.

 

Shouldn't take a huge amount of effort to at least pin down which of the basic blocks involved is responsible.

 

"It won't go" is far easier to troubleshoot to be honest than "it runs poorly"

 

...unlike modern injection setups where you've got CANbus, immobilisers and goodness knows what else involved!

 

The back history is the car had a habit of not starting for a couple of years if left for weeks, but a quick wiggle of the wiring behind the battery turned it back into a good starter. Then one spring no amount of wiggling would start it and after a lot of cranking it burst into flames! I understand why now as the cold start injector spays petrol though the manifold when the engine is being cranked so it must have been afloat with fuel. I have replaced the obviously burnt HT leads but it seems their may be some damaged wires on the back of the engine. Remember the car would not start before the fire. After the fire the coil was diagnosed as not working and has been replaced after several years looking for one with one from Holland this year.

 

I have had it 11 years and I am quite patient with my cars as I am in the privileged position of not needing it for work Monday morning but I am beginning to wonder if it is worth it. 

[Six-cylinder]

2017 Year Review

 

9 bought and 8 sold, getting better just one added to fleet numbers 2017!

 

BOUGHT

Citroen Visa Super E

Lancia Gamma

Citroen BX GTi

Saab 9-3 Convertible

Rover 216i Convertible

 

 

[Six-cylinder]

2017 Year Review

 

IN and OUT

 

Skoda Octavia 1.6

 

Skoda Felicia GLi D

 

Citroen AX

 

[Six-cylinder]

2017 Year Review

 

SOLD

 

Rover 114 GSi

 

Rover 114 SLi

 

MG ZR

 

Citroen CX 2500 I/E Pallas gold

 

Rover 75 V6 Touring

[Six-cylinder]

PARTS ONLY CARS taken in this year

 

Rover 75 V6 saloon

 

Citroen Visa Mk1 Twin

 

 

[Six-cylinder]

2017 Year Review

 

There were also a moped and scooter added, but they don’t count do they!

 

Honda Vision 50

 

Aprilia Habana 125

 

 

2017 has been a fantastic year for cars, but I feel for 2018 I need to focus on the cars that I want the most and stop being distracted along the way.

 

 

The 3 big aims of 2018 are going to be:

Spitfire 6 to return to road

Citroen Visa GT welded

 

Mrs6C’s Alfa Romeo Giulietta to return to road

 

[puddlethumper]

^^Come on, what are the three things ????

 

Edit, Big aims.

[Mrs6C]

The 3 big aims of 2018 are going to be:

 

Are you trying to keep us all in suspense?

[Six-cylinder]

^^Come on, what are the three things ????

 

Edit, Big aims.

 

They fell off and the font has gone all funny and the photo loading requires a click less than it used to, is the forum beaking!

[Zelandeth]

That's really quite useful information as it gives us a known dodgy area of wiring to point suspicion at.  Armed with a wiring diagram we should be able to ascertain if there are any problems there.

 

The fact that your electrician found continuity from one end of the loom to the other doesn't necessarily mean that a signal is getting through.  It's entirely possible that the wire has shorted to another conductor or to ground - especially if there's been a fire!  It's just a matter of being methodical and patient about it really.

 

If you can find the connectors involved it's entirely possible that it might be worth having those bits of the loom remade.

 

These cars do try our patience sometimes, but there's just something about real Citroens.

 

I managed about a month short of two years after I sold on my first Xantia 1.9TD.  

 

Now there's a bloody Activa in the drive!  I'm sure the air will be turned blue when that goes wrong the first time!

[Mrs6C]

The 3 big aims of 2018 are going to be:

Spitfire 6 to return to road

Citroen Visa GT welded

 

Mrs6C’s Alfa Romeo Giulietta to return to road

 

 

Thank goodness for that!

[richardmorris]

Thank goodness for that!

I think world peace and sensible, intelligent politcians ( of any persuasion) are more likely!

[HMC]

LOoking forward to seeing the Alfa getting some TLC!

 

It doesn't *look* too bad bodywise

[puddlethumper]

Three big aims.

 

1, They fell off.

2, The font has gone all funny and

3, The photo loading requires a click less than it used to.

 

Are these really big aims ?

 

Sounds like normal Autoshite to me.

[hairnet]

alfa hnng

 

Y U DIS TOO WHELS M9??

[Zelandeth]

No idea if it's still there (going back 10+ years) but Sharpewoods Scrappy up by Huntly used to have one of those Alfas right at the back in the trees.  Was mostly complete, as with most of the stuff at the back being less common models.

 

Saw it the day I utterly failed to save the immaculate Nissan Cherry 1.3SGL someone had just driven in to the yard.

[Daviemck2006]

No idea if it's still there (going back 10+ years) but Sharpewoods Scrappy up by Huntly used to have one of those Alfas right at the back in the trees. Was mostly complete, as with most of the stuff at the back being less common models.

 

Saw it the day I utterly failed to save the immaculate Nissan Cherry 1.3SGL someone had just driven in to the yard.

Sharpwoods still exist, it’s been for sale for ages as a going concern but no takers. They have never broken a 107 when I phoned them yesterday on an engine hunt.

 

 

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[Skizzer]

All I can say is, thank goodness I wasn't around when you were selling that CX.

 

Also, top work as ever.

 

Also also, sad about the crunched mk1 Visa in that lime green, my absolute favourite combo.

[Six-cylinder]

The two big successes of 2017 have been the return to the road of our MG Metro MK1 and Citroen LNA

 

The LNA was if I bid low I can dream of owning it without the trouble it would bring, £103.99 was not low enough!

 

The Metro was Mrs6C letting nostalgia get the better of her, her teacher had one and we could not afford a proper one so bought a project, It turned out to be much worse that described.

 

Both cars took more than a year but are now running MOTed just needing paintwork.  

[Mrs6C]

The Metro was Mrs6C letting nostalgia get the better of her, her teacher had one and we could not afford a proper one so bought a project, It turned out to be much worse that described.

 

Hmmm, I seem to recall that a nice AS member sent us a lovely sales brochure featuring the S1 MG Metro in it, so obviously that was a sign that you had to get me one!

[Zelandeth]

Mk I Metro...car I most regret selling.

 

Especially in Snapdragon Yellow.

 

Really sad as well that it seems to have disappeared almost as soon as I sold it, was sod all wrong with it either.

[Six-cylinder]

Range Rovers will be Range Rovers!

 

Mine could not think of a new fault to present me so let some air out of it's tyre, I knew it was doing it because in the rain I could see all the bubbles it was blowing at me!