Audi A6 (C5 stylee)

[Largactil]

Audi A6 (C5 stylee) - i.e this one:

 

 

Talk to me - Definitely in shiter territory now. 

 

My modern is great fun, but it's the antithesis of autoshite. I'm even paying a bank loan on the thing, which has 2 years left to run...(!)

 

Current brainwave is to use it for a blez to Lake Como in the summer, then stick it up 4 SAIL when I get back. Pay the loan off, and use what's left over to acquire a new reliable* daily. 

 

A6 Avant in C5 flavour with the 130bhp 1.9 VAG TDi is on the radar, starting around £2k... Handy van if we do decide to move house next year, 50 mpg / 600+ miles per tank in normal use, VAG reliabilty* etc. 

 

Prefer badermatic, as I'm lazy - Heard the multitronic (post 2003) can give issues.

 

Any more for any more? (Regarding this particular model, or the 1.9 TDi with the 'red i' engine)

[Cavcraft]

Over priced, over rated.

[twosmoke300]

And usually as wet as an otters pocket under the carpet . Where the CCU is located

[Asimo]

If you want an Audi estate note that all of them after this model

http://www.netcarshow.com/audi/1984-100_avant_quattro/1600x1200/wallpaper_01.htm

are horrid and not shiter material.

[Dave_Q]

Ran an A4 recently for a while which is pretty similar underneath.

 

Expect to be changing front suspension arms fairly regularly, not a major job but they just don't last. Especially if they've been replaced with ebay / cheapy motor factor specials in the past.

 

Shouldn't be many problems with either TDI engine, pre 2001 for maximum veg and bio compatibility (oil filler cap at cambelt end), pd130 for maximum speed and easy 150 horses with a remap.

[Talbotman]

I wouldn't entertain any form of auto on these,multitronic or otherwise their a world of pain and throw their toys out of the pram quite readily.Stick to a manual box if you must have one. Other than that it's just the usual Passat A6 maladies.........

[cort16]

My mates got a v6 diesel one he bought from the auction that's got some shite hawk sensor/valve thing in the gearbox that means it won't go into reverse sometimes. It's 600 for the part so he's just not bothered his arse.

[Largactil]

Although as appealing to the AS maassseeeve as a genital wart encrusted helmet, unfortunately the A6 makes sense when I apply my IRISHCARCRITERIA.

 

1. Sub-2 litre engine due to the bonkers road tax, and preferably derv (it's 10p a litre cheaper than pez over there) - Veg friendly a bonus
2. Lots of space for when I make supply runs over the border to NORN IRON, to pick up everything 20-30% cheaper than it costs in the ROI
3. MWay Crusing ability for the above, and 50 mpg +
4. Reliable*
5. Slightly sheddy appearance - Not bad enough to attract Gardai attention, but enough dings & scratches that I won't give a hoot when I park it, and return to find some more have been added.

The C3 Audi 100 suggested above is a good call - But the remaining examples either fall into shed category, or nice ones I wouldn't want to subject to the joys of daily Irish motoring.

[NorfolkNWeigh]

They seem to be pretty popular to thrash back and forth between Poland and the UK, in fact I'm surprised these days to see any A6 Avant or Passat that's not full of crew cuts and hot women in tight jeans.

[alf892]

Had one in 1.9tdi manual as a company car to 140k miles.

Excellent car no issues other than poor dealers.

Cheap motoring comfy and competent. Surprisingly nippy too.

Do it.

[Cavcraft]

Reliable. That's going to be interesting.

[twosmoke300]

They are . Cos all the owners buy into the vag hype and anything that does go wrong is just maintainance .

Window regs , maintainance

Suspension arms , maintainance

Pollen filter seals failing and flooding the convience control unit ,maintainance..........................

.,..........

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Rotten front wings and wanked Multichronic autos on FWD cars. Nice cars but nothing a Mondeo Estate can't do for 1/3 the price.

[Pete-M]

I paid £1200 for a 98S plate 2.8 Avant quattro sport with fsh and leather five years ago.

 

I quite liked it. Wasn't quick, even with 193 bhp.

 

I also ran a T plate 2.5 V6 TDi Avant job for a while. The V6 Diseasel engine suits them but they can get through lots of money in repairs without really trying. When they start to go wrong they really do know how to eat money. That was £1700 to buy 7 years ago with 170k on the clock - it rattled through £2k in servicing over the next 30k miles.

 

Nice cars when they're looked after 'money no object', a liability if they've been owned by someone who likes to skimp.

[Vince70]

We had the previous generation A6 which was a 2.0 N/A litre petrol although not the quickest motor off the starting block it didn't matter what weight you put in the boot the old girl would take abuse without battering an eyelid and it never seemed to affect the performance or ride.

 

My father never spent a penny on it in 4/5 years of ownership apart from a couple of services and the odd tyre here or there and the only reason it had to go was it was a bit too big for the drive of his new house.

 

It's still going strong and traveling over 100 miles a day 5 days a week at 22 years old since he sold it, and we really miss not having the load space of the avant and it still doesn't use any oil and water as we keep in touch with the new owner.

 

I think the only problem he ever had with it was the scuttle drains got blocked with 20 years of leaves so he got wet feet which was sorted in under a minute by throwing the drain bungs away and shovelling out the leaves.

 

The old tanks are really worth buying if welding isn't your cup of tea.. As I've never had a rusty one yet even the exhaust and cat were still original on that one and the same with my 20 year old A4

 

I think it's like most cars once in shite territory try and buy the most basic model with the least amount of gadgets as it means less to go wrong..

 

The only real electrical problem I can think of I've ever had on them over the years are the odd duff coolant temperature sensor which is noticeable by a non working gauge and the cold start injector over fuelling when warm which is a five minute fix and less than 10 quid for a cheap sensor and you don't even need any tools for the job.

[Pete-M]

Funny that. I go for the ones with all the toys as if all the toys work the car has probably been looked after properly.

[forddeliveryboy]

There seem to be more C5 A6s on ebay listed for spares/repairs, when over a dozen years old, than runners. Was totally the other way round for the previous generation A6, the one which was a rebadged 100. The least complex are the pre-2000 four cylinder diesels. But a straight five dizzler C4 would probably be more reliable, faster and more comfy. They're decent cars, very simple, tough and well built. Unlike what followed.

[hairnet]

bro in law had 52 plate a4 from 18 months old till 12 years old

 

no trouble - but it was a manual

 

mondeo est or early octavia.............

[Cavcraft]

The 2.5s (diesels) are pump spitters, do a Google search on them.

[Largactil]

They are . Cos all the owners buy into the vag hype and anything that does go wrong is just maintainance .

Window regs , maintainance

Suspension arms , maintainance

Pollen filter seals failing and flooding the convience control unit ,maintainance..........................

.,..........

 

Sounds like my Alfa 156 SW - But in addition, it shat its wiper motors  / ABS sensors too ...

 

Some fair tips so far - I guess Audi have replaced BMW as the car of the WANKA.

 

Whatever I get, I need to think about this:

 

 

Depressing, isn't it?

[scruff]

Buy a BMC Farina estate and drop a turbo Perkins Prima in it. Sorted

[Largactil]

Oh, and I have owned an Audi before - Back in 2005, I picked up a one owner / 40k miler A4 2.8 V6 Quattro for £3.5k

 

My mate had owned it from new, having paid ~£30k for it back in 1996, during the halcyon days of the dotcom boom.

 

It was a thirsty lump, and not particularly quick despite being a manual - Nice place to cover the miles in, though.

 

(Pretty reliable too...)

[hairnet]

Buy a BMC Farina estate and drop a turbo Perkins Prima in it. Sorted

 cough

[Richard]

Who produced that table? They can't spell "emissions".

[forddeliveryboy]

The 2.5s (diesels) are pump spitters, do a Google search on them.

 

Not those with the straight 5s, it's the V6 ones which are the problem. Ie the later, cheaply-thrown together more modern tat which Audi is expert in today.

[New POD]

If you really want a nice old/newer FWD diesel, try the generation 7 Accord Estate 2.2 ictdi. Much nicer. A bit more money, but so much less VAG. £3k should find you a decent one.

[Largactil]

Who produced that table? They can't spell "emissions".

 

It weren't me, guv - I pulled it off the internet a while back.

 

If you really want a nice old/newer FWD diesel, try the generation 7 Accord Estate 2.2 ictdi. Much nicer. A bit more money, but so much less VAG. £3k should find you a decent one.

 

Cavernous boot too - €994 a year to tax, though (€320 more than something fitted with the VAG 1.9).

 

Outwith the VAG crew (Octavia / Pisshat / A6), there's the Vauxhall 1.9 CDTi in 16v flavour, as fitted to the Sabb 9-5 & Vectra estate, the Ford 2.0 TDCi in the Mundaneo, and Toyota's 2.0 D-4D in the Avensiszzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz. 

 

If one were willing to take the gamble on a 150k / 2008 Mk4 Mundaneo at three and a half bags, it falls into the cheap* tax bracket in Eire, at €280 per year.

 

What's the opinion on the TDCi at high miles...? Good for 250K? What usually breaks on a Mk4 Mundaneo?

[hairnet]

avensis

 

arent clutches horribly a nitemare on mongdeos?

[Vince70]

It weren't me, guv - I pulled it off the internet a  

 

If one were willing to take the gamble on a 150k / 2008 Mk4 Mundaneo at three and a half bags, it falls into the cheap* tax bracket in Eire, at €280 per year.

 

What's the opinion on the TDCi at high miles...? Good for 250K? What usually breaks on a Mk4 Mundaneo?

Plus the OMG coded injector problems on the Mondeo Diesel a mate of mine has a 2004/05 one and his is quite a low mileage example which has been well looked after and believes it's the most unreliable car that he's owned and been very costly to repair.

So has now gone back to driving his old 1950s beetle instead and he's no fool with cars and does know his way around an engine and his is not a one off when it comes to the Mondeo.

 

But saying that most modern Diesels are utter crap so it may not be just a Ford thing

[NorfolkNWeigh]

avensis

 

arent clutches horribly a nitemare on mongdeos?

Just the usual DMF shit ,I think. We've got a Freelander 2 which is pretty much Mk4 Mondeo and we put a clutch in it because the concentric slave shit itself and you might as well do it while everything's out. The guy that did it reckoned it was at least it's 3rd clutch- in 98,000 miles !