Oh Noes! Not another thread about a shonky Lancia? NOW with fixulated steering N stuff.

[HillmanImp]

I did not have time to pop down to the garage to see the chap that used to work on it as slept in the other day. I will let you know when I have and what history he has on it. 

[Guest Breadvan72]

Cheers bloke. I am also emailing the dude who owned it back then.  

[HMC]

YAJ looks loads better! Thankyou again BV for letting me take it out on the shitefest MIRA facility, it was fabulous even with the poorly steering rack. Following the PUG 504 in it through the curves I felt like part of a 1970s TV italian detective chase.

 

PS I still have your hat.

[320touring]

Do you moonlight as "shit picture purveyor to the gentry" for the times they have to engage avec les plebs dans l'ebay?

 

Magic skills at making car look respectable;) glad it now handles better, sort the steering and you'll be golden

[Guest Breadvan72]

Poshing it up for wedding anniversary nomfest.  Also shonky engine shots and underneathy bits.

 

[Guest Breadvan72]

Posh.

[Guest Breadvan72]

YAJ looks loads better! Thankyou again BV for letting me take it out on the shitefest MIRA facility, it was fabulous even with the poorly steering rack. Following the PUG 504 in it through the curves I felt like part of a 1970s TV italian detective chase.

 

PS I still have your hat.

 

 

You are welcome.  Luuuuurvvved the Pug.   Drives reet tidy, like, and those 472 comfytastical seats in the back make it a tad practical, I should reckon. 

 

 

Let's organise a "give BV his hat back" AS mini meet.

[beko1987]

I can relay from Thame or Marlow to chez BV if it helps...

[Guest Breadvan72]

Yoinks, I think the handbrake just went kafooooom.     Cable, maybe.  

[Junkman]

You have to learn to think up worst case scenarios.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Head gasket

[DeeJay]

Arse end fell off.

[Guest Breadvan72]

Weighed it in.  Got 50p.

[skattrd]

I've just been looking at the shitefest thread and this one and I think the 1300's ace. How's the performance compared to your old 2000?

 

Ps. If you ever decide to sell this motor please let me kno

[Guest Breadvan72]

The car is peppy and feels quick enough, and the book figures seem a tad conservative (0-60 13 secs, top speed 102 mph),  but you have to remember that you aren't in a 2000 when planning to overtake someone.     Handling is better than a larger engined car as there is less weight up front.  Very flat and balanced.   Once the steering is fixed it should be fabbo. Best gearchange of any Beta I have driven.  Brakes to spare.

 

Some people urge me to cam it and carb it, but I prefer the sweet little thing  as Lancia designed it.   Just looking at the Guy Croft BLING YO LANCIA YOLO forum makes me want to run away and join the hippies or something, so regimented and grumpytrousers it is.

[Guest Breadvan72]

PS: over on PH I am doing my best to piss off the chipped  'Grale CRU YEAH by posting pictures of the Coup of Crarp plus the lovely 1300 Berlina from Shitefest.  

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I think this is well interesting just for what it is and my view is that only a GLISTENING BELL END would start souping it up with a bigger engine or whatever.

[Guest Breadvan72]

I concur with the Right Honourable Lord Bollocks of Danglingham.

[Guest Breadvan72]

This is what a 1300 Coupe in Lancia Blue looks like when not covered in scrot.  The dude who ran YAJ 936T for seven years replaced it with this one.

 

[Guest Breadvan72]

Steering column bearing found on eBay.It, yaroo.

[Skizzer]

I thought they were called Betas until the last facelift (like your VX)?

[Pete-M]

I actually like Llancias (Welsh typo). I'm not the correct build for one, but I've had four Deltas and still have the Thema Turbo 16v LS in Black with tan leather on my list.

 

WWouldI have bought this Beta if it made it to that auction under its own steam with a ticket? Fuckin right. Look at it. It is glorious. It is what Autoshite means to me. It is definative. Faded automotive glamour. Yesterday's prize star 30 years too late after a battle with the booze, tinworm on the under carriage, saggy bits and dodgy joints. Yet if you invite it to a party it'll always bring a bottle of something special and a few tales of happiness. Then it'll whip out it's battle scars dance like it used to in the 70s until passing out in a door way, pants around its metaphorical ankles in a puddle of its own making. Then it'll need a lift home. It'll need a few days to recover, plenty of fluids and a bit of rest.

 

Then it'll make you do it all again.

 

Which is why I refused a test drive.

[Guest Breadvan72]

The badging and branding of Betas is mucho confuso, as are the distinctions between series numbers, facelifts and what not.

 

The 1300 Coupe was initially sold as the Lancia 1300 Coupe, in order to appeal to those who had liked the Fulvia.  Later it was badged and listed as a Beta.

 

Later in the life of the Beta model range, the word Beta was dropped because of the rust scandals.  In 1983/4 you could have bought a Lancia HPE or a Lancia Coupe (Berlina replaced by Trevi by then, Spyder discontinued).  By then your Beta would come with a five year anti perforation warranty - the first such in the market.

 

Someone at head office made a probably wrong decision not to sue the Express (or whichever paper it was) for publishing false claims that Betas were being sold with rotten sub frames. Pub myths are born easily and die hard.  People will stand next to a 36 year old Beta and say "these all rotted as you looked at them".  Er, why is this 36 year old car still here, then, with a fair few original panels and paint?      

 

There is a certain type of garage bore who accosts you as you fill up and tells you how crap your car is, but really wants you to invite him to sit in the car.  I have had this with old Alfas, Lotuses, etc.    Also, the number of not apparently prosperous blokes I have met at garages who claim to have owned a Jensen Interceptor in the past is greater than the number of Jensens ever built!

[Guest Breadvan72]

BetaPHACKTZ:-

 

https://www.dropbox.com/s/uz6sslfhqolfzbz/BETA%20AT%2040.pdf

 

A good read, with some good picz.

[mrbenn]

Nice looking mowtah!

 

Did this come from Yorkshire somewhere? I'm sure my mate has papped this one (with its twin) in the not too distant past....

[Guest Breadvan72]

It was in Shipley from 2007 until April 2014, then spent a month in Peterborough, before the dude who had bought it from Shipley moved it on to me.

 

The other blue one has post facelift dash and separate rear seats, in pale cloth.

 

The brown one looks like this:-


 

[Guest Breadvan72]

I have just bought one of those rad grilles as seen on the brown car, as I like it better than the standard cheapo one, viz:




 

[Pete-M]

Someone at head office made a probably wrong decision not to sue the Express (or whichever paper it was) for publishing false claims that Betas were being sold with rotten sub frames. Pub myths are born easily and die hard. People will stand next to a 36 year old Beta and say "these all rotted as you looked at them". Er, why is this 36 year old car still here, then, with a fair few original panels and paint?

 

There is a certain type of garage bore who accosts you as you fill up and tells you how crap your car is, but really wants you to invite him to sit in the car. I have had this with old Alfas, Lotuses, etc. Also, the number of not apparently prosperous blokes I have met at garages who claim to have owned a Jensen Interceptor in the past is greater than the number of Jensens ever built!

Ah. Mr Powell of Vineside Rd Liverpool 12 had the engine drop from his virtually new Beta saloon. He was the father of two lads I went to school with and one of those who wrote to the national press about it. I mentioned it at Shitefest. Lancia coughed up as the engine mountings were connected to rot and nothing else, the engine near as dammit dropped out. He replaced it with a Renault 20 TX which rotted almost as quickly.

 

As for Interceptors.. I used to look after a convertible one for someone and use it occasionally. I couldn't justify the money one costs to buy, never mind trying to run one. Nearly bought a cheap FF in the early 90s, but it was scabby and I would never have been able to keep it running. Wish I'd had somewhere to stash it for a decade or so.

 

Interceptor III:

[Guest Breadvan72]

When I last heard that story it was an Alfa.

[Junkman]

I thought it was a Princess?