Conrad D. Conelrad Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 When I had the exact same problem on the P6, I could turn the engine using a spanner on the alternator after temporarily over-tightening the belt. Skizzer 1
Skizzer Posted February 18, 2017 Author Posted February 18, 2017 When I had the exact same problem on the P6, I could turn the engine using a spanner on the alternator after temporarily over-tightening the belt.I'm liking that idea. I might even get a new fan belt while I'm adjusterising, as this one doesn't look to be in the first flush of youth.
Dave_Q Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 I'm not entirely clear on how imperial sockets work, but I'd say that one is around 7/19ths of a furlong. Skizzer, catsinthewelder, mat_the_cat and 4 others 7
They_all_do_that_sir Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 If practical lift front wheels, put it in gear and turn using a bar across the wheel nuts? Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk
They_all_do_that_sir Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 If practical lift front wheels, put it in gear and turn using a bar across the wheel nuts? Sent from my D6603 using TapatalkEdited to say this being RWD I don't know how easy this would be....alternatively roll it down the drive in first till it lines up.... Sent from my D6603 using Tapatalk anonymous user 1
Skizzer Posted February 18, 2017 Author Posted February 18, 2017 Yup, that could be an option, although I think I'd have more joy with the rear wheels The Rancho is monopolising all my axle stands at the moment, but it won't break me to buy another pair and they're useful to have. They_all_do_that_sir 1
Captain Furious Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 I've always gone with 4th gear, handbrake off and nudge the car back and forth until the engine is in the spot I want it (e.g. When doing valve clearances) You can be surprisingly precise and although I'm usually working in much lighter beasts than the SD1, it's fairly easy in the higher gears. Skizzer 1
mat_the_cat Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 Thanks chaps, I'll persevere with trying to get a socket on it unless anyone else comes up with a better plan. Good to know I'm not going mad and missing something obvious. God only knows what size socket fits, the odds of me having the right Whitworth deep socket or extension bar combo might be even worse than starter motor roulette. 15/16" on yours, or near enough 24 mm. Mine is an odd one, which needed a 34 mm deep socket to get to it but AFAIK, those are the only 2 sizes. Skizzer 1
Bren Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 Socket and extension will do the job - I also turned mine via the alternator pulley.
Richard Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 I've always turned the crank by moving the car in a high gear.
Dave_Q Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 On FWD cars I have previously jacked up one front wheel and used that to turn the engine through the magic of differential. More difficult with RWD, need a decent chock type thing for the front wheels.
For Fiats Sake Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 Having been an SD1 owner in the past I can say that unless the car is on level flat smooth ground you'll never budge the bugger whilst in gear by yerself! Ask me how I know.
Guest Hooli Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 Having been an SD1 owner in the past I can say that unless the car is on level flat smooth ground you'll never budge the bugger whilst in gear by yerself! Ask me how I know. Take the plugs out first. For Fiats Sake 1
Pete-M Posted February 18, 2017 Posted February 18, 2017 I normally spin them from the other end of the crank
Skizzer Posted February 19, 2017 Author Posted February 19, 2017 FOOKIN' A. Thanks for all the advice: rolling it forward in 4th gear with the plugs out did the job in about five minutes, once I'd figured out a chocking arrangement to stop it rolling back to where I started from: That's the broom handle bonnet stay from the XJ-S, no longer required since I fitted some genuine BL gas struts. Until they start sagging too. Update shortly when I hit the next basic junior apprentice problem. (Shite fixing LIVE!) wuvvum, Magnificent Rustbucket, richardthestag and 6 others 9
The Reverend Bluejeans Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 I'm liking that idea. I might even get a new fan belt while I'm adjusterising, as this one doesn't look to be in the first flush of youth. It's s 28/32 AF Colonial Twatworth FFS. Alternative No 4 is a stout screwdriver in the ring gear teeth and edge it round.
Skizzer Posted February 19, 2017 Author Posted February 19, 2017 Hmm, with crank pulley at TDC (see incontrovertible photographic evidence above), rotor arm is pointing at number 6, which is supposed to fire fifth not first. * sigh *
Noel Tidybeard Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 time to play musical chairs with the leads
Conrad D. Conelrad Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 Double check it's TDC on the compression stroke, not exhaust. Magnificent Rustbucket, alf892 and Skizzer 3
Skizzer Posted February 19, 2017 Author Posted February 19, 2017 Double check it's TDC on the compression stroke, not exhaust. Ah. As long as i put it back the way I found it, all will be well though, right? We'll find out once I've soldered on some spade connectors.
Guest Hooli Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 Yip if it pointed at 6 when you took it out, then point it to 6 again when you put it back.
Skizzer Posted February 19, 2017 Author Posted February 19, 2017 Holy Mary and Patrick - IT WORKS!!! trim.6246A55D-A38C-4CDE-B252-5B1311E4664B.MOV I'm declaring victory on that and going home for my tea. RobT, Conrad D. Conelrad, catsinthewelder and 3 others 6
Guest Breadvan72 Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 Hero of car fixage! Skizzer, earlier:- Skizzer 1
Guest Breadvan72 Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 Straight six technique - worldofceri and Skizzer 2
Isaac Hunt Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 Lovin the SD1, looks mint inside and almost mint outside. Proper V8 Burbleage Skizzer and AMC Rebel 2
Skizzer Posted February 19, 2017 Author Posted February 19, 2017 Thanks - the inside is very lovely, the outside is good from 10 feet away (or so). A certain amount of filler may* be involved in the wings. It's pretty solid though and very low mileage (40-odd k) and it's easy to work on so I love it to bits.
Guest Breadvan72 Posted February 19, 2017 Posted February 19, 2017 I have druv this car and can confirm that it is supa-ace. Skizzer 1
Skizzer Posted March 26, 2017 Author Posted March 26, 2017 Finally spring has arrived and I had a whole day off work yesterday for the first time in ages, so I've been out and about in the Rover. First sunny weekend (Rover 3500 SD1) by Skizzer, on Flickr The timing is still a bit off following the distributor replacement. It idles ok but is a bit hesitant when pulling or cruising at low revs; then it's fine (joyous, in fact) from about 3500rpm upwards. Stale fuel won't be helping but first suspect is the timing. My Timestrobe (which belonged to my father and so must be at least 30 years old, probably more like 40) isn't lighting up the barely-visible timing marks clearly enough so I need to attack the crank with some Tippex to show up TDC better. Also the vacuum thingy on the new dizzy fouls the radiator top hose mounting so it appears it won't rotate far enough round. Are all Intermotor parts somehow wrong/broken/shit, or have I just been unlucky? RobT, Vince70, HMC and 8 others 11
Guest Breadvan72 Posted March 26, 2017 Posted March 26, 2017 MOAR FOATARZE PLIZ Magnificent Rustbucket and Skizzer 2
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