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The lastest claim acquisition Rover 25 1.6 has responded well so the aforementioned magic liquid. Is this likely to be a long lasting repair or should I send the car over the bridge? it's a sweet little thing with tax and test but I'm not too keen on getting any static of a new purchaser a month down the line.

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Usually just a get me home repair tbh.

 

If the rest of the car is good it might be worth a punt on Gumtree?

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Can't link it very easily cos I'm on my phone, but if you find the recent MG ZR thread, someone posted details of a mobile mechanic who does the permanent job for a very good price.

 

Love the title of this thread, btw!

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I can imagine the scene now....

 

" I bought a used Rover with a K-Series engine and the headgaskets gone ... "

 

 

Well,thats the chance you take on any used car,and buying a K Series is kinda asking for it really;we have known since 1992 when launched the K series has enjoyed gasket eating,so you've had long enough to realise what they are like.

 

I would think more than 50% of Rover's with K Series engines put into the auctions had blown gaskets.

 

Buyer beware - but don't sell it to a fellow Autoshiter as it could turn ugly :lol:

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If a fellow shiter fancies taking a chance then it's theirs for £200 with a fair bit of tax and test!

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I would think more than 50% of Rover's with K Series engines put into the auctions had blown gaskets.

 

Is this why they named the product K Seal ?

 

:lol:

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Love the title of this thread, btw!

 

Mate, give it up.

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Mark it'll last a good while (years) but I can do the gaskets on these in an hour, I've, er, had a bit if experience. :)

I've heard people claim it blocks heater matrices and waterways but it doesn't.

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Mark it'll last a good while (years) but I can do the gaskets on these in an hour, I've, er, had a bit if experience. :)

I've heard people claim it blocks heater matrices and waterways but it doesn't.

 

Right, Gumtree it is!

 

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Not a bad looking little thing either.

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MONGWATCH LIVE.

 

Ad been on Gumtree for 35 mins and........

 

Joey Deacon "What's the lowest you'll take? I'm desperate for a car",

W.T.C "What can you offer? I can meet you tonight if that helps?"

Joey Deacon "I can't get it tonight, would you take £180 I hope that's not an insult?"

W.T.C " I really can't go that low I'm afraid"

Joey Deacon "How low can you go and where in Liverpool are you?"

Posted

thats a bloody cheep little car.i used k seal in my old 25 n never had no probs in 3 years

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The only place a bottle of K Seal should occupy is the nearest bin. I've seen more engines royally fucked over by this than ones that it's "fixed". I mean engines I've looked at, since I used to be big into the MG/Rover scene, not just here say from this or that forum. I've fixed countless head gaskets and whenever someone tells me he tried K Seal first I want to smack him with a trout.

 

It may get you home, or it may completely block your waterways if your head as particularly thin rails like the K Series does and thus bugger your engine. You flip a coin when you use it and most of the time it lands bad side up.

 

Owners of those engines it's "fixed" should play the National Lottery.

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The only place a bottle of K Seal should occupy is the nearest bin. I've seen more engines royally fucked over by this than ones that it's "fixed". I mean engines I've looked at, since I used to be big into the MG/Rover scene, not just here say from this or that forum. I've fixed countless head gaskets and whenever someone tells me he tried K Seal first I want to smack him with a trout.

 

It may get you home, or it may completely block your waterways if your head as particularly thin rails like the K Series does and thus bugger your engine. You flip a coin when you use it and most of the time it lands bad side up.

 

Owners of those engines it's "fixed" should play the National Lottery.

 

Meh, it's a 200 quid snotter what's the worst that could happen?

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For 200, I suppose you could flip that coin and see if your luck holds.

 

Just felt like doing my public service announcement for the day. :lol:

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"The only place a bottle of K Seal should occupy is the nearest bin. I've seen more engines royally fucked over by this than ones that it's "fixed". I mean engines I've looked at, since I used to be big into the MG/Rover scene, not just here say from this or that forum. I've fixed countless head gaskets and whenever someone tells me he tried K Seal first I want to smack him with a trout.

 

It may get you home, or it may completely block your waterways if your head as particularly thin rails like the K Series does and thus bugger your engine. You flip a coin when you use it and most of the time it lands bad side up.

 

Owners of those engines it's "fixed" should play the National Lottery."

 

don't agree at all with this at all, you are talking nonsense man-

 

I have used K seal since it was launched and have never had any issues with it - in fact I use it as a preventitive treatment on my XU engine and in the K series cars I have had one of which I clocked 50k on post repair over 4 years. I think you might be confusing K seal with the likes of Radweld - I would agree with you if you were referring to Radweld. K seal does not block waterways as it requires air and heat to cause the reaction - saying that K seal blocks the waterways indicates you do not understand the chemistry or how this product works. We regularly use steel seal, the 'big brother' of K seal offshore in machines that are a hell of a lot more complex than a K series (and considerably more expensive). It is impossible for K seal to block a sealed waterway.

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I guess K-seal don't work in Honda V6 engines does it, looks like mines on its way out. :?

 

Oh, and Hi scoots, good to see you back here. Missed ya mate :wink:

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you'll need 2 bottles in a Honda V6 -

 

if the hole is larger than 1mm then it will not work.

 

you put the K seal in the coolant - run the car up to temperature, if the leak is stil there 30 mins after the engine has reached operating temperature then it has not worked. You do not need to remove the K seal from the coolant system afterwards.

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K-seal definitely lasts long enough to get a bodged Rover 214 round the auctions. It doesn't manage to mask the real issue (read bodge) though and may* lead to catastrophic engine failure on the M53.

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I know people who've had a car survive years after a K-Sealing. Radweld is indeed horrible stuff and also great for clogging up heater matrices.

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Thanks Scoots, good to see you here again. Not having much luck with Honda V6s at the moment, looks like the engine is suffering now. Ironicly I might have a free KV6 Sterling making it way down here from Glasgow soon.

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That's a tidy looking motor right enough, far too good to scrap!

 

Soz about the Gumtree suggestion, seems like you've had some spurious viewers :|

 

I suggested there as I've been looking at other cars, particularly Rovers and there seem to be quite a few advertised with HG issues. Bid seem to still fly for them on E-bay too.

 

PS, sorry to hear about your motor LS, I hope you sort things out and still have a Sterling-shaped outcome in the end.

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I'm pretty sure it'll sell easily enough, it's the follow up hassle I'm more worried about!

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As Kseal flows the engine 'waterways' it will flow through a leak into the cylinder where the temperature is generally v hot and it hardens at the crack/leak. If you've put it in check a few months later and you can see little bits still floating in the coolant. Coolant galleries are usually at least 1cm wide (bigger on kseries) so people saying these get blocked haven't a clue and are only recycling what they've read on the font of Internet forum noviceness, usually mgrover.org. It doesn't harden boiling water- I'm pretty sure it's organic fibres, may even be sugar cane.

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Radweld killed my Fuego.

 

K-Seal was a miracle worker on my XUD9 for weeks after. Prior to application, it would have a touch of hydraulic-ing at the morning start up, and drink water all day long. Not so on the trader's yard that day I chopped it in.

 

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K seal is produced by Kalimex = K seal

 

It is suitable for use in any engine but like all sealers,its a way of putting of the inevitable,although I have heard good reports about it. Radweld,and the old Barrs stopleak used to bork the Jaguar XK engines up as it would clog the waterways up,but advanced in products have been made since then.Overdosing on any sealant can block a heater matrix,but never killed a car ourselves with a sealant

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I'm pleased to announce that the Rover sold for the asking price this evening. Full disclosure about the potential HGF issues were explained to the new owner and he seemed happy.

 

Second car sale of the day!

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