Skizzer's saffershite (NEW old trucks p2)

[Skizzer]

Just got back from a trip and managed a few spots while I was there.

First off, a tractor that belongs to some friends-of-friends.

DSC_9358 by Skizzer, on Flickr

Lots of these emerging-market Toyota things, whose name escapes me, mostly in people carrier form but this one's a lesser spotted pick-up:

DSC_6429 by Skizzer, on Flickr

Nicely patinated Audi 100:

DSC_6430 by Skizzer, on Flickr

...and another. Not sure if the Cd is still 0.30 if someone's bashed out a dent using a hammer but no dolly:

DSC_9405 by Skizzer, on Flickr

LOTS of Toyotas. Here's a Cressida, with the nose of something else successfully* grafted on:

DSC_9374 by Skizzer, on Flickr

And another Cressida, bit older:

DSC_9425 by Skizzer, on Flickr

What's this then? Carina? Camry?

DSC_9382 by Skizzer, on Flickr

Chevy bakkie:

DSC_9398 by Skizzer, on Flickr

Datsun Pulsar:

DSC_9403 by Skizzer, on Flickr

A trio of white Sierras:

DSC_9408 by Skizzer, on Flickr

DSC_9413 by Skizzer, on Flickr

DSC_9458 by Skizzer, on Flickr
The last one is a 3.0i RS, which sounds like it'd be a good giggle.


Charade:

DSC_9438 by Skizzer, on Flickr

Colt Galant!

DSC_9428 by Skizzer, on Flickr

That'll do for now, I'll post some more later.

[Jack_Harpers_Teeth]

 

Colt Galant!

DSC_9428 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Splendid colour co-ordination here. Smashing pictures.

[hairnet]

how much to ship datsuns this way

[Skizzer]

Thread resurrection: I promised a few more of these, so here they are.

 

First up - this picture is of spectacularly low quality, but it features both an SD1 on blocks and a first-gen Mazda 323 so DEAL WITH IT.

Rover SD1 and Mazda 323 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Opel Rekord:

Opel Rekord by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Datsun 1200:

Datsun 1200 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Golly, a Fester with a boot. Never seen one of these before - a Safrican special I guess.

Fiesta sedan by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Traction engine shite in Phalaborwa:

Give us a tow, mate by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

My second favourite bakkie was this Toyota Corona:

Toyota Corona bakkie by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Three generations of Toyota Corolla next - firstly, a smoky mid 80s one with bonus Hyundai Scoupe:

Toyota Corolla by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

...then an early 80s one with bonus Honda Ballade in the distance:

Toyota Corolla (with bonus Honda Ballade) by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

...and a fantastic 70s one:

Toyota Corolla by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Which is so good it deserves a close up.

Panel beaten by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Finally for now, this is my most favourite bakkie OF EVAH – a Toyota 1000 from about 1975 (with original owners, I'll wager):

Toyota 1000 bakkie by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

 

Sorry that the photo quality is a bit shit on some of these - mainly taken at speed. Promise to try harder in future. (Mrs Skizzer was persuaded to do photography duty while I was driving, and did an embarrassingly better job than me quite a lot of the time.)

 

I've got some trucks and vans to come later, if you eat up all your greens.

[RoadworkUK]

That Corolla is extra glorious. I would have said that that's all tropical sun surface rust, but the plate on the front sill would suggest otherwise. Top work Skizzermelad.

[Albert Ross]

The Fiesta Saloon is a Ford Ikon IIRC. Appears also to be called a Bantam for some markets.

[STUNO]

Just got back from a trip.

And another Cressida, bit older:

DSC_9425 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

What's this then? Carina? Camry?

DSC_9382 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

That'll do for now.

 

1..Cressida wears the end of the line grille, so probably later.

2..Skyline

[hairnet]

want that fiesta

 

the fiat tractor is hopefully a 900

 

theres a cabbed one we see drive past uncle pats in co longford most times im there

[Split_Pin]

That patinated Corolla is a beaut!

[Skizzer]

Thanks chaps.

 

That would be a Chevy LUV which is actually an Isuzu KB ("they've rebadged it, you fool!").

It also seems to be wearing BMW wheel trims.

Ah, that explains it. It doesn't look very Detroit. I think it was sporting a wide variety of wheel trims, in fact, but BMW certainly does seem to be represented on the o/s front.

 

The Fiesta Saloon is a Ford Ikon IIRC. Appears also to be called a Bantam for some markets.

Ikon is probably right - I know the Fiesta-based half ton bakkies (=pickups) are called Bantams in SA. They're very popular, or were until axed last year.

 

What's this then? Carina? Camry?

Skyline

Double face palm

 

Corolla...I would have said that that's all tropical sun surface rust, but the plate on the front sill would suggest otherwise

Yep, I reckon that rear quarter has seen some homebrew panel beating. The local professionals do a better job judging by the E70 Corolla below:

Toyota Corolla at the body shop by Skizzer, on Flickr

[fordperv]

The Fiesta Saloon is a Ford Ikon IIRC. Appears also to be called a Bantam for some markets.

 

you correct it is an ikon, in sa the bantam is a pickup the earlier ones are mk3/4 escort then mazda 323 based, then later on they had a fiesta front

 

i loved my time out in sa, shite litters the streets i would move there in a heartbeat

[Skizzer]

The 'cars you didn't know existed' thread has reminded me that I was back in South Africa a few weeks ago, and did some more spottage.

 

Datsun Cedric 230 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Not the best picture, but still.

Peugeot 404 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

As far as I'm concerned this is a Mazda, but does the different nose mean it's actually some sort of Ford?

Mazda 626 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

More Mazda-ness.  Something about the rear view reminds me of the Xedos 6.

Mazda 616 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

If the Laurel and the Passat aren't shite enough for you, then that blue thing top left is a Pug 504 (surprisingly uncommon in this part of Africa):

Datsun Laurel, VW Passat combi, Peugeot 504 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

P100 with bonus background chod:

Ford P100, Mercedes 200, Opel Kadett by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Ford Escort bakkie by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Any offers on what this is?

? by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Guesses also welcome on the blue pickup behind the Sierra and the yellow one top left:

Ford Sierra, Fiat Uno by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Nice blue Sunny, plus a 610 Bluebird tucked away under the corrugated tin roof:

Datsun 120Y Sunny by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

These Toyota Liftbacks are very cool, in my book:

Toyota Corolla Liftback by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Will post some more up later, if anyone is interested.

[AnthonyG]

Oh, yes, more pics plz😃

 

Mazda 626 is possibly a Ford Telstar, which is what they got in Aus instead of the Sierra. Considering they sold Sierras in SA, might be a import from another RHD market. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Telstar

 

The pale blue saloon with no wheels is a 1970s Chrysler Valiant, also from Australia. http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Valiant

[Skizzer]

^ Thank you, I knew I could count on either you or Junkman to identify the blue 'American' (I thought) thing

 

As a reward, here's some more chod.

 

Yum:

Colt Galant Coupe by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

I'd happily live in this:

Mitsubishi L300 motorhome by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Rekord in Chevrolet flavour, for added shiteness:

Chevrolet Rekord by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

More pug action:

Peugeot 404 bakkie by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

A pair of tired second-gen HiAces:

Toyota Hiace by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

If I lived in SA, my back yard would probably look quite a lot like this, when I'm out somewhere in the Nissan 1400 bakkie and the Land Rover is being fixed:

BMW E28, Citigolf, Toyota Corolla, Toyota Camry by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Still plenty of these Corollas around.  This was my favourite:

Toyota Corolla by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

They're not so big on Hondas, for some reason.  Have a Ballade though:

Honda Ballade by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Finally for now, this workshop in Hazyview had some interesting tat:

MG Midget, Lancia Appia by Skizzer, on Flickr

Lancia Appia, Jaguar XJ-S, Austin 1100 by Skizzer, on Flickr

Austin 1100, Triumph 2000 by Skizzer, on Flickr

Austin A105 Westminster by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Soz for variable (ok, poor) photo quality - these were mostly taken at speed by the missus while I dodged potholes, other drivers and the occasional goat.

 

 

Anyone want some shonky old trucks next?

[KruJoe]

Thread resurrection...

... early 80s one with bonus Honda Ballade in the distance:

 

Triple-threat in this pic! The middle one is interesting modern shite - Toyota Avanza Mk2 (or possibly the Daihatsu-badged equivalent). It's a mini MPV with rwd, separate chassis, live axle etc, fairly rugged for emerging markets. Oficially six seats I think, but the benches in the back will hold as many as you dare cram in. They are built all around South-East Asia, and a fairly common over there. I rented one once, it was a doddle to drive, great visibility, and a hoot around town, with the 1.5vvti pez lump from a Yaris or Vios mini-saloon.

 

Thanks for bringing this thread to the top Skiz, I missed it first time around.

 

And yes, some shonky old trucks would go down very well, I'm sure.

[brickwall]

Roadworthy Testing is becoming compulsory over there to the same standards as here, except for emissions. You also have to get it done if the vehicle changes hands. I wonder what effect this will have on the chode down there

[Skizzer]

^ That's interesting: there was certainly noticeably more new Japanese/Ford runabouts and a lot less old tat this year than on previous trips, although that may partly be because there's now a lot more Chinese mineral money swooshing around the areas I was in.

 

Will post up some trucks later - meanwhile here's a Kadett I forgot:

 

Opel Kadett by Skizzer, on Flickr

[Alan_Green]

• The car after the tractor is a Toyota Venture.  

This was my 2002 Ford Ikon. Basically a Fiesta with a big boot:

[oldcars]

Did you get any pics of a VW Chico?

[Skizzer]

The promised trucks.

                                   

 

The one and only time I've knowingly seen an Oshkosh:

Oshkosh 4 sale by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Bedford TKs by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Magirus drop-sider by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Loads of these bottle-nosed Mercs still on the go - I think they probably carried on selling them new into the 80s or 90s in SA:

Mercedes L-series truck by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Looking exhausted:

Ford F-350 by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

I like how skinny the outside rear tyre is on this.  (Also bonus Sierra Sapphire.)

Ford Sierra Sapphire and Chevrolet C truck by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Any ideas?  Some sort of Isuzu?  (Not the Mercedes, I got the Mercedes.)

Unidentified truck by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Retired Caterpillar in Zimbabwe:  

Billy the bulldozer by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

 

I papped this Ford D-series this trip and last trip.  It's clearly still in regular use - fresh set of tractorshite though

Ford D-Series and Ford 5000 tractor by Skizzer, on Flickr

Farm vehicles by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Modern Peterbilt and a Leyland Terrier/Boxer/something:

Leyland Terrier (?) by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

This big old Toyota thing (lots of these) was being recovered by the blue Isuzu(?) pick-up.  You can smell the clutch from here.

Heroic towing by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Here are some more broken Japanese trucks with bonnets:

Knackered Nissans and tired Toyotas by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Lastly, another Nissan 1400 bakkie.  I love these - based on the 1970 B110 Sunny, there are loads around because they've only just stopped making them.  Which makes the blurred photo all the more shameful:

Nissan 1400 bakkie by Skizzer, on Flickr

[Skizzer]

Did you get any pics of a VW Chico?

 

Not as such - do you mean the Chico as a variant of Citi Golf?  If so, I did get some non-Chico Citis and a Fox (='Citi Jetta'):

 

VW Citigolf by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

Volkswagen CitiGolf by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

VW Fox (Citi Golf saloon) by Skizzer, on Flickr

 

 

(Just noticed how I'm hedging my bets here on how to write Citigolf/CitiGolf/Citi Golf.  Spelling, the 18th Century way.)

[Alan_Green]

Knackered old Nissan truck in action. (Note driver's white trouser workwear at end):  

[AnthonyG]

The Chevrolet Rekord reminded me of the Ranger, a bizarre bit of GM madness from the late 1960s:

 

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ranger_(South_African_car)

 

Despite having at least four brands with models that could potentially sell well in SA, in Chevrolet, Opel, Holden or Vauxhall, what does GM do? Invent a new brand using Opel bodies and mechanical bits from all over the place. These were billed as 'South Africa's own car' probably because of the success of marketing 'Australia's own car', the first Holden, 20 years earlier.

 

Amazingly these were also built and sold in Belgium, as if there wasn't enough infighting between Opel, Vauxhall and the various American GM names. Ford, whose rationalisation of their European companies started in the late 60s, must have been pissing themselves.

 

Sadly for shiters and lovers of short-lived orphan brands, all this madness came to an end in the late 1970s.

[Junkman]

 

 

I'm not convinced this is a Magirus Deutz. I think it's a Samil 50 MK2:

 

[Skizzer]

I do believe you're right, by George.  One for the 'trucks you've never heard of' thread.  It looks awfully similar to a Magirus Deutz though - are they perhaps related?

[Junkman]

They are indeed and the one you spotted isn't a SAMIL (South African MILitary), as I first assumed, but a SAMAG (South African MAGirus) instead.
This makes it strictly speaking a Magirus, then again, it's different enough from a Magirus to not be a Magirus.
 
What you saw is most probably a SAMAG 70:
 

 
The closest corresponding Magirus is probably the 170 D 15:
 

[PiperCub]

You live and learn - never knew there was such a thing as a booted Fiasco - probably as well given it's as ugly as it is! However...... the Bantam pick-up you mentioned? I looked this up and I love this, I have a thing for small pick-ups and this one is a beauty. Never seen one in this country but want one.