SambaS Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Did any of these find their way over to England? I'd like one =) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ProgRocker Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I remember a What Car? article about this in the early 1990s. Supposedly with a Lada badge and a sub £3,000 price. Possibly a bit too crude and unrefined for British motorists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoda_fan Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I think well-known Eastern Bloc car buff Julian Nowill had one but I believe I read somewhere that he has moved it on. So there's at least one somewhere. I understand these are spectacularly shite, a kind of down-market Lada. This of course would make one irresistable, so if one ever turns up you'll have to beat me off to get to it!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethj Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I think Julian Nowill of USSR club had one, I believe they imported three and he bought one with another being broken for spares. EDIT: I looz at the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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skoda_fan Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 'kin' hell!! Am not into the Max Power/boom boom boy type of scene, but for some reason I love that! Bad taste supreme!! EDIT: I looz at the internetSorry about that. Great minds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSparrow Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 There was one in the background of the Top gear 'Did Communism ever make a good car?' item a few years back, so I guess there must be at least one in the hands of an enthusiast here. Go here, click on ZAZ and scroll down to recent models:http://www.autosoviet.altervista.org/main-english.htm Apparently still made in Korea?!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtd2000 Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I think well-known Eastern Bloc car buff Julian Nowill had one but I believe I read somewhere that he has moved it on. So there's at least one somewhere. I understand these are spectacularly shite, a kind of down-market Lada. This of course would make one irresistable, so if one ever turns up you'll have to beat me off to get to it!! Somebody give the man a hand here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wuvvum Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 Didn't these have a ridiculous gearbox setup where fifth was to the right and back, next to fourth? I know they were sold officially in France for a time in the early '90s - don't think they sold many though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luxobarges_Are_Us Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 I've seen one of them in Thessalonika when they were new. I think the local Lada dealer was considering importing them on the side and brought a couple of demonstrators in, but he must have come to his senses and decided not to go ahead with selling the buggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxpower Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 'kin' hell!! Am not into the Max Power/boom boom boy type of scene, but for some reason I love that! Bad taste supreme!! EDIT: I looz at the internetSorry about that. Great minds and what is wrong with me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Split_Pin Posted March 6, 2012 Share Posted March 6, 2012 My Soviet Car book has a piece about one that was shipped to Bridlington by the UK Lada importer in 1992 or 3 to assess its suitability for the UK market. For a reason I can't now remember, it was decided not to proceed with the venture, but the red example was registered on a k plate and almost definitely survives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gricer Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I actually drove one of the Tavrias that was imported - round the car park at Wythall, near Birmingham, where the Lada/Proton importer was based. This would have been around 1992-93. It was red, and K-reg sounds right. It was like a badly maintained Mk1 Fiesta - very heavy for an FWD car, with flimsy plastic and cardboard interior. However it would have become the UK's cheapest car - they were aiming for about £3,995. Suspect they would have struggled to make any money at that price. Quite a few sold in Europe though - and there were saloon and estate versions of the Tavria as well. Got pix somewhere of all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtd2000 Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 However it would have become the UK's cheapest car - they were aiming for about £3,995. Suspect they would have struggled to make any money at that price. It's unlikely that they would have stuggled to make money at all - cars are cheap as chips to build. The Dacia Logan (a much better car than that Lada) was estimated to cost around US$1069 per car to build in Romania - that's under £700 in real money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skoda_fan Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I saw a Dutch-registered newish-looking car badged as a Dacia Logan on the motorway today. Kind of estate car thingy with uneven sized doors on the back. Presumably this is the latest version and is imported to some countries in Europe?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gricer Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 It's unlikely that they would have stuggled to make money at all - cars are cheap as chips to build. The Dacia Logan (a much better car than that Lada) was estimated to cost around US$1069 per car to build in Romania - that's under £700 in real money Not as simple as that. You'd have to factor in marketing costs, logistics, spares back-up and, worst of all for shite East European cars, warranty costs, which were a real killer for most East European brands when pitted against relatively relible Korean or Malaysian shite, derived in the main from reliable Japanese tat. Different now with Dacia - it's based on reliable parts bin stuff from Renault/Nissan so is no less reliable than a Clio or a Micra. But a 90s Tavria, built in Ukraine in the post-communist era was way short of even Russian Lada standards (remember, it wasn't a Lada!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gricer Posted March 8, 2012 Share Posted March 8, 2012 I saw a Dutch-registered newish-looking car badged as a Dacia Logan on the motorway today. Kind of estate car thingy with uneven sized doors on the back. Presumably this is the latest version and is imported to some countries in Europe?? That'll be a Dacia Logan MCV, some of which have asymetric split doors instead of a tailgate. Not the latest version - it's been out for a few years. Dacia has quite a range now - Logan, Logan MCV, Sandero and Duster, plus van and pick-up versions of the Logan. Latest model is a 7-seater MPV called the Dacia Lodgy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Glover Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 RHD Sanderos and Dusters will be coming the the UK at the end of this year, but both are far too good to be interesting. The surviving RHD Tavria is still in the Devonshire Avtofilth Collective. It's in fine fettle. They're really not that bad, appalling build quality aside. Borderline stylish. Sam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaS Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 what's the Devonshire autofilth collective? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted March 11, 2012 Share Posted March 11, 2012 Sounds like an exciting road trip to me! Especially for anyone who can bring a Polonez (should be worth free admission!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaS Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 Well I'm game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaS Posted March 11, 2012 Author Share Posted March 11, 2012 Sam > would it be a big ask to find out exactly what you've got in your collection? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Glover Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 what's the Devonshire autofilth collective? I mean the collective farm of superior Marxist vehicle appreciators in Devon. Everybody is equal in democratic socialism, but perhaps the most equal of their number is Mr Nowill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Glover Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 Sam > would it be a big ask to find out exactly what you've got in your collection? Yes. ARO 242Anadol A1Austin ApacheBarkas B1000Bedford VALBond 875Citroën Ami 6DAF 33Dacia 1310Dacia CoupeDacia ShifterDatsun 120Y CoupeGAZ ChaikaIZH 2125Lada 2101 Lada NivaLada RivaLeyland Princess 2MGB GT6NSU Ro80Panhard Dyna ZPontiac Trans Am GTARover 2200TCRover 3500SRover MaestroŠkoda 1000MBŠkoda Favorit FreewayTatra 603-2Tatra 613-4 KATiTatra T600 'Tatraplan'Trabant 1.1 KombiTrabant 601 LimousineTrabant KubelwagenVolga M21Volga M22Volvo 66Volvo 164Volvo 240GLVolvo 245Volvo 262CVolvo 343 VariomaticVolvo 1800ESYugo 55 SportYugo SanaYugo ZLMZaporozhets 968A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaS Posted March 12, 2012 Author Share Posted March 12, 2012 Lordy lord! Impressed. I think I'd be playing with the Tatras first. Then the Yugo Sana Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddyramrod Posted March 12, 2012 Share Posted March 12, 2012 ...a heroic list! WOW. I mean seriously, that's a hefty fleet there. I'm insanely jealous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mk2_craig Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 I wonder whether how many RHD Tavrias were built. This one seen in Malta two years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YugoLada Posted March 14, 2012 Share Posted March 14, 2012 There is a Red K reg one around In the UK but its an Import. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SambaS Posted March 14, 2012 Author Share Posted March 14, 2012 One of the 3 originally imported. I spoke to the guy who recently owned it. The guy he sold it to has it on the road, so that's good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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