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Citroen Picassos are sleeping giants in the money stakes. If I were someone else I'd be looking to buy as many early-ish examples as I can get my hands on. Apparantly the 1.6 petrol engined ones are going to be the most sought after and the days of really cheap (sub £600) ones are literally numbered in thousands, if not tens of thousands of days.

 

EFA :D

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felly instead of opening your mouth and letting your belly rumble maybe you should do do some reaserch,you do know that the the 131 won 3 times the world rally championships that the escort won,have you had a look at 131 mirafiori sport prices?Nobody is denying some fords are worth a fair bit of cash.

 

 

I get it that you don't like fiats or me but take the blinkers ,its very rare to se a rusty modern fiat.

 

His memory of the value of old Fords is equally selective. I was born in '81 and I can easily recall mk1 & 2 Escorts going for less than £800.

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While I agree that Felly is exaggerating things a bit (and not taking into account the obvious fact that the market for highly sought-after classics is pan-European, if not global), it's worth noting that £800 in 1996 is over £1200 in today's money.

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Ok,so what about the mark 2 escort i sold in july for £400 what does that equal in todays money?

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Ok,so what about the mark 2 escort i sold in july for £400 what does that equal in todays money?

 

About eight times that if it was a 2dr with a solid shell.

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okay point is even RWD Escorts and especially Cortinas were once just old chod that people said would never be classics. Execpt for genuine AVO cars, I imagine, but they didn't appear in Autotrader all that often.

 

That reminds me, it use to be fun flicking through the bargains section back in the day.

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Estates, more doors and vans all fetch a fraction of the price of a two door.

 

£400 still strikes me as being more than a bit underpriced, but hey, if that's all you wanted for it.

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They say that there are many factors that influence the resale value of a car. Of course, the first factor is the model or the brand of the car. They also said that customizing the car also has effect on the car's resale value. Everybody hates depreciation on new cars. It's a terrible thing, knowing that the worth of the car one has just bought is now down the sewer. In the back of the mind of every person who buys a car new is that the value is going to plummet after a few years. However, there are a number of cars that keep their value reasonably well. In fact, Edmunds has just released a list of new cars that should hold their value well. Article source: List of new cars that hold resale value well

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They say that there are many factors that influence the resale value of a car. Of course, the first factor is the model or the brand of the car. They also said that customizing the car also has effect on the car's resale value. Everybody hates depreciation on new cars. It's a terrible thing, knowing that the worth of the car one has just bought is now down the sewer. In the back of the mind of every person who buys a car new is that the value is going to plummet after a few years. However, there are a number of cars that keep their value reasonably well. In fact, Edmunds has just released a list of new cars that should hold their value well. Article source: List of new cars that hold resale value well

 

Okeydokes then. Spamming Autoshite with something that 'proves' new cars aren't the financial diaster you might think. The toughest of tough sells?

 

On the basis of this we all need to rush out and buy a large American market Japanese 4X4, apparently.

 

'rhaps not, eh?

 

They seem to be getting cleverer though - they're now attaching things to existing threads. If they get really smart though they'll be drawing us in with claims that they own a Matra Rancho or a Kia Shuma.

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Anything that raced or rallied in period.

 

 

Time to start snapping up Mk2 Hyundai Accident MVis now, lads!

 

I really like those :oops:

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felly instead of opening your mouth and letting your belly rumble maybe you should do do some reaserch,you do know that the the 131 won 3 times the world rally championships that the escort won,have you had a look at 131 mirafiori sport prices?Nobody is denying some fords are worth a fair bit of cash.

 

 

I get it that you don't like fiats or me but take the blinkers ,its very rare to se a rusty modern fiat.

 

His memory of the value of old Fords is equally selective. I was born in '81 and I can easily recall mk1 & 2 Escorts going for less than £800.

 

When I first started driving in 1987/88 the auto trader was full of MK1/2 escorts and tidy Mk3 Cortinas for under £500, my mates had loads of them (I had a mini)

 

One mate had a 2 door escort (GFC 4N) that got written off at a set of lights and another mate had a lovely Mk3 tina in that rare Modena Green. He wrecked that and replaced it with a lovely Dolly sprint that was again around £500quid...

 

No-one wanted them over the XR3's and Astra GTE's that everyone lusted after in the 80's.

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I'm amazed how cheap coupes like the MR2 and FTO / GTO are at the moment. I can see the value of those going up as they become more rare.

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Mk1 MR2s seem to be slowly rising in value, but they are stonkingly cheap. Why would you pay thousands for a bleedin' MGB when an MR2 could be yours for less than a grand? People would rather pay more for a base model Escort it seems. I can't say I understand it at all, especially when Suzuki Cappuccinos seem to very rarely come in for less than three grand. They rot just as badly as a Mk1 MR2.

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Maestros will have a bit of curiosity value. They're just another Allegro at the end of the day, even after close to 40 years the Allegro is still worthless, I can't see the more rust-prone Maestro or Montego ever being worth much.

 

I think the maestro has a lot more going for it, i'll attempt to explain...

 

It is the first of the homofocal headlamped, cad designed cars, which is still relatively unchanged design today.

 

with an automatic choke, engine management system, hatchback and 5 doors,

 

its a long way from the 70's, grease nipples, gearbox in sump, manual chokes etc,

 

the maestro is still a easily usable car today, and this will give it more appeal to the casual enthusiast

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Maestros will have a bit of curiosity value. They're just another Allegro at the end of the day, even after close to 40 years the Allegro is still worthless, I can't see the more rust-prone Maestro or Montego ever being worth much.

 

I think the maestro has a lot more going for it, i'll attempt to explain...

 

It is the first of the homofocal headlamped, cad designed cars, which is still relatively unchanged design today.

 

with an automatic choke, engine management system, hatchback and 5 doors,

 

its a long way from the 70's, grease nipples, gearbox in sump, manual chokes etc,

 

the maestro is still a easily usable car today, and this will give it more appeal to the casual enthusiast

 

But on the minus side it has shit aesthetics, like the Allegro. Ugly cars need a certain extra something to gain mainstream desirable status, and I don't think there's much, if anything, from Leyland's later years that has this quality. A bonus for shiters, of course, as this will keep costs down.

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Ugly cars need a certain extra something to gain mainstream desirable status, and I don't think there's much, if anything, from Leyland's later years that has this quality. A bonus for shiters, of course, as this will keep costs down.

 

Precisely. I can't think of anyone who'd willingly go and buy a Maestro because of an automatic choke. In fact, when I worked for Avis they had Maestro automatics - which had manual chokes.

 

My 604 has power steering, auto transmission, electric windows, electric sunroof, central locking, fuel injection, electronic ignition, halogen headlamps, four wheel disc brakes and a curry hook. All pretty advanced for what was essentially a 1970 design. Not enough to have a massive queue of buyers camping outside my house.

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I'm wondering about these

 

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the reviews are fairly poor, but the looks (at least in certain colours) seem spot on.

 

I suspect that they will be utterly worthless in a few years time but then maybe the looks will lift their values as they disappear?

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I'm wondering about these...

 

Not a bad car at all, unless you get a 2.0 amputeematic, in which case it's a very bad car indeed.

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Regardless of how good they are, I think it's just got the wrong badge.The Puma and TT will be future classics, and anything rear wheel drive will be in demand. There also wasn't a properly quick version, which won't help

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Maestros will have a bit of curiosity value. They're just another Allegro at the end of the day, even after close to 40 years the Allegro is still worthless, I can't see the more rust-prone Maestro or Montego ever being worth much.

 

I think the maestro has a lot more going for it, i'll attempt to explain...

 

It is the first of the homofocal headlamped, cad designed cars, which is still relatively unchanged design today.

 

with an automatic choke, engine management system, hatchback and 5 doors,

 

its a long way from the 70's, grease nipples, gearbox in sump, manual chokes etc,

 

the maestro is still a easily usable car today, and this will give it more appeal to the casual enthusiast

 

It's a long way from BL of the 70s perhaps, but automatic chokes were becoming popular in the 1970s. Vauxhall Cavalier Mk1 springs to mind but there were plenty of others. The Maestro may have had some clever features, but really it was behind the times. Eight years after the VW Golf. That will always be seen as the real template for all that followed. The Maestro was mid-1970s technology launched in the early 1980s. It seemed ridiculously dated when the R8 came out in 1989 which really represented the first time BMC/BL had marketed a cutting-edge, desirable design in the small-family class since the BMC 1100.

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In fact, Mk2 Escorts equipped with the twin choke Weber had auto chokes in '75, as did Cortinas, Capris, Granadas.

 

Peugeot only got the hang of auto chokes when they introduced fuel injection...

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Hillman Imps had automatic chokes when launched in 1963 activated by the exhaust heat rather than coolant. Manual chokes as standard were introduced not long after!

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Badges will come into it but I think the Hyundai was the best selling coupe in the world for a time and can't recall ever hearing bad things about them.

 

Pumas already seem to be disappearing quickly from our roads. I reckon they're a smart looking little thing and about 271,000,000 million times better looking than the Mk1 Tigra for example.

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The Bluebird is the only car I've owned where the auto choke actually works properly

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