f1 coverage 50% to go to sky in 2012

[aled]

sky are to show 50%of next years f1 coverage and the other half will be shown on bbc 1, why should the bbc let this happen, petition here if you would like to see it kept on the bbc.

 

http://www.petitionbuzz.com/petitions/keepf1onthebbc

[messerschmitt owner]

don't waste your time.

 

I suggest buying a euromillions lottery ticket, winning £161 million and donating most of it to Bernie Ecclestone - that's the only way you'll see F1 back on the beeb full time.

[Cavcraft]

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[254575]

i think the faux outrage of this decision is a little tiring.

 

sky have done wonders for football, and the BBC are a mess, with their forced subscription model they don't give a crap about what people want.

 

screw them and their stupid boat race.

[retrogeezer]

well I'm pissed off because I have been watching F1 for 20 odd years and now will not be able too as I can't afford Sky Sports.

 

I do however pay my BBC licence fee and BBC signed a contract to show F1 until 2013 that they have backed out of, so they used 'my' money to win the contract and now won't show it. Will I get a refund? No. Can I not pay my licence fee and use the money for sky sports? No.

 

Will they continue to pay daft amounts to 'celebs' to go on jollys around the world on boats/planes etc - yes.

[Station]

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Exactly! Although I respect that people like it, I've never really understood what makes it interesting.

 

 

Now, THIS is a sport:

 

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Exactly! Although I respect that people like it, I've never really understood what makes it interesting.

 

Same here. Admittedly, some of the totty is decent.

[dollywobbler]

My F1 viewing is just what I get via the news site anyway. I won't sign up to Sky as a matter of principle. Watching the highlights (especially the 11 minute version) is the best way of watching it anyway, much like Test Cricket. All the dross is edited out. Perfect!

[messerschmitt owner]

you could just sit at home with a scalextric set and go neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwww as the cars go round - occasionally have one come off and smash into the skirting board - for realistic action, dismantle one car and throw the bits around every time a car crashes.

 

It would be as interesting.

[michael t]

personally im disapionted at the bbc/sky partnership as i only started watching f1 when the bbc regained the rights in 09, i dont have sky due to the cost of it but at least the beeb will be showing extended highlights of the races there not showing live.

[dollywobbler]

I'm just still grateful that I can get WRC footage on You Tube. I recommend checking the Finland 2011 rally out. Epic driving. Raikonnen still isn't that good at it (though he does seem to be improving).

[HillmanImp]

I am properly annoyed about this.

 

What does Ecclestone think will happen. Sky did a great job in promoting A1GP didn't they? They will lose LOTS of viewers.

 

I wont pay for Sky (I am currently cancelling my Virgin Cable TV to go freeview as I cant be arsed paying for all that shit) but will probably end up spending more by going to watch it in the pub. But I will be drunk, happy and wont care.

[retrogeezer]

you could just sit at home with a scalextric set and go neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeyaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwww as the cars go round - occasionally have one come off and smash into the skirting board - for realistic action, dismantle one car and throw the bits around every time a car crashes.

 

It would be as interesting.

 

Yeh, but you can say that about every sport... Football is just a few blokes kicking a ball, rugby is a few bigger blokes with a ball, golf is a walk in the park hitting a ball with a stick, tennis is etctc..

 

F1 is motor sport at the pinnacle of car technology, I like cars, I like motor sport so I like F1. BTCC is better 'racing' but I still watch F1.

As for WRC, I'm finding it very boring now and I have also watched that for years....it's just Citroen DS3's and Ford Fiestas....bloody recession has fooked everything apart from Bernie Ecclestones bank account.

[overheadvalve]

i think the faux outrage of this decision is a little tiring.

 

sky have done wonders for football, and the BBC are a mess, with their forced subscription model they don't give a crap about what people want.

 

screw them and their stupid boat race.

 

With all due respect, they have not. All we get from Sky is less football for more money, in football we get more players coming from other countries, some teams in the premiership struggle to fiels more than four English players, Arsenal and Chelsea for instance. Football is in this country a complete joke, there are only 3 or four teams in the race for the league title which is at least partly down to money. Sky will make F1 like Eurosport make the World Touring cars series, show the race in it's entirety but have so many sponsors and adverts that it will become monotonous shit. Fair enough, if some people don't like F1 but not for those who like the sport.

The BBC do F1 better than anyone ever has.

I don't have a problem with the traditional (middle class) boat race once a year either, let them get on with it at least they do a good job of it.

[messerschmitt owner]

You're right - but the problem with most sport (apart from the 100m sprint), and life in general, is waiting for the ten minutes of genuine excitement in amongst the hours of really quite boring stuff.

 

A good football/rugby match is a joy, a bad one is plain boring.

 

In F1, I've seen little to excite for years, and it isn't the lack of crashing but the fact that a 9s pitstop can make the difference between winning and losing - therefore the most exciting part is who can change four wheels and shove 100 litres of fuel into something the fastest. That means the driver and car are actually immaterial ...

 

The vehicles may be at the top of their game, but the silly rules and specification changes do nothing for me.

 

It's a spectator sport for people with little imagination, and a means of making money for a select few, who may or may not be Nazis.

 

It's well suited to Sky then.

[overheadvalve]

You're right - but the problem with most sport (apart from the 100m sprint), and life in general, is waiting for the ten minutes of genuine excitement in amongst the hours of really quite boring stuff.

A good football/rugby match is a joy, a bad one is plain boring.

In F1, I've seen little to excite for years, and it isn't the lack of crashing but the fact that a 9s pitstop can make the difference between winning and losing - therefore the most exciting part is who can change four wheels and shove 100 litres of fuel into something the fastest. That means the driver and car are actually immaterial ...

The vehicles may be at the top of their game, but the silly rules and specification changes do nothing for me.

It's a spectator sport for people with little imagination, and a means of making money for a select few, who may or may not be Nazis.

It's well suited to Sky then.

They stopped the refuelling a while ago now, the rules were changed a few weeks ago (at the British GP) which stopped any chance of the British drivers winning, probably at the request of the Italians, which is another thing. When Sky hand out the cash to the teams they will probably do it on a tier type system which will mean that the outfit which is F1 and is more important than all of the other teams because they have been doing it for longest ( yeah right ) will get a pot load of money and the smaller teams will get shagged over, frankly it stinks.

[warren t claim]

The problem with F1 is that Murray Walker no longer commentates and the drivers don't do enough drinking and shagging.

 

Leave it to Sky. I checked out years ago.

[dollywobbler]

How have rule changes stopped British drivers winning in F1? Brits have won the last two races!

 

WRC may have only two cars in it, but that makes it more about the drivers. All of whom I find charming and very interesting to watch.

[messerschmitt owner]

You're right - but the problem with most sport (apart from the 100m sprint), and life in general, is waiting for the ten minutes of genuine excitement in amongst the hours of really quite boring stuff.

A good football/rugby match is a joy, a bad one is plain boring.

In F1, I've seen little to excite for years, and it isn't the lack of crashing but the fact that a 9s pitstop can make the difference between winning and losing - therefore the most exciting part is who can change four wheels and shove 100 litres of fuel into something the fastest. That means the driver and car are actually immaterial ...

The vehicles may be at the top of their game, but the silly rules and specification changes do nothing for me.

It's a spectator sport for people with little imagination, and a means of making money for a select few, who may or may not be Nazis.

It's well suited to Sky then.

They stopped the refuelling a while ago now, the rules were changed a few weeks ago (at the British GP) which stopped any chance of the British drivers winning, probably at the request of the Italians, which is another thing. When Sky hand out the cash to the teams they will probably do it on a tier type system which will mean that the outfit which is F1 and is more important than all of the other teams because they have been doing it for longest ( yeah right ) will get a pot load of money and the smaller teams will get shagged over, frankly it stinks.

The way I see it is like this. Like most sports nowadays, it isn't about the taking part, it's about the money. Deprive the TV company of the money by not watching and it all stops, and sooner rather than later.

 

The rule changes are not about making faster, better cars but are done for political reasons, and just like football, the biggest teams dominate and will always have the lion's share of the money.

 

It was better in the olden days, in the same way rallying was too, as was football and rugby. Nowadays, money rules in sport and sport is nothing more than a means to make money. The fun has gone, lots of the passion has gone. There's no doubt the talent is still there but talent is stifled under the need to make money. Also, all sport is full of hangers on, there to take some of that cash and keep it. They're people with no interest beyond the money - no passion, no talent, no nothing ...

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

all sport is full of hangers on, there to take some of that cash and keep it. They're people with no interest beyond the money - no passion, no talent, no nothing ...

 

I am amazed by the fans of the smaller football clubs in England. For example, in Sheffield there are two third division teams. Both of them play pretty rubbish football. They charge 25 quid a ticket in order to pay a fortune to an army of crap footballers most of whom wouldn't be allowed out of a Sunday league in Spain or Italy and a small contingent of directors/officers of this and that (why does a THIRD DIVISION club need a corporate structure?). They almost always manage to attract over 15,000 fans to their matches, most of whom will pay even more on merchandise/parking/dodgy sausage rolls from concessions.

 

Even as a football fan myself, I can't make sense of the situation!

[theorganist]

Don't forget both Sheffield Clubs have been in the top flight relatively recently and fans tend to stay loyal to the clubs they support (often since childhood) whatever the division they are playing in.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Don't forget both Sheffield Clubs have been in the top flight relatively recently and fans tend to stay loyal to the clubs they support (often since childhood) whatever the division they are playing in.

 

Sure I agree...but it's one thing being interested in your favourite club and following the news etc, and quite another paying a fortune, week after week, year after year, to watch second-rate football...That's especially true nowadays with pay-per-view and pubs that televise the most tedious of matches if there's a local following for one of the clubs playing.

[Cavcraft]

Hey don't knock it! I quite often watch about 14th rate football but I'd rather stand with a few 'genuine' supporters than sit next to some muppet who's borrowed his uncle's season ticket or only supports a team because they're doing well.

[barefoot]

The last time I went to see a football match it was Derby County vs Stoke City in the Uefa Cup

Gordon Banks was in goal

 

I couldn't see a bloody thing & I've never been back.

 

& I'm probably happy to watch the F1 highlights on the beeb

[retrogeezer]

How have rule changes stopped British drivers winning in F1? Brits have won the last two races!

 

WRC may have only two cars in it, but that makes it more about the drivers. All of whom I find charming and very interesting to watch.

 

 

Dolly, the rules were changed for the British GP alone and then reverted back to the pre silverstone ruling....pretty ridiculous really.

Is was something to do with the exhaust blowing through the diffuser and hindered Mclaren massively...but Ferrari not one bit as they did not have the system on their car...strange that.

[Cavcraft]

The last time I went to see a football match it was Derby County vs Stoke City in the Uefa Cup

Gordon Banks was in goal

 

I couldn't see a bloody thing & I've never been back.

 

& I'm probably happy to watch the F1 highlights on the beeb

 

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Hey don't knock it! I quite often watch about 14th rate football but I'd rather stand with a few 'genuine' supporters than sit next to some muppet who's borrowed his uncle's season ticket or only supports a team because they're doing well.

 

I enjoy the ambience and would go more often if it were a tenner. However, it strikes me as very odd that the fans aren't up in arms about being milked from every possible angle without being able to watch some half-decent footy- let alone have any chance at competitive success.

[Tonka]

BBC F1 coverage gets 10 million viewers, Sky have 10 million UK customers roughly 1/3 of them take the sports package, how long before the sponsors realise it's a backward step?

 

You never know young Master Murdoch might end up incapable of chairing the Sky board if the legal system gets it's act together, bit of bad publicity here and there and it might just end up somewhere else, probably UK Gold or Dave,......

 

Anybody remember Live TV with topless darts, bouncing weather men and banger racing.............................

[254575]

BBC F1 coverage gets 10 million viewers, Sky have 10 million UK customers roughly 1/3 of them take the sports package, how long before the sponsors realise it's a backward step?

 

You never know young Master Murdoch might end up incapable of chairing the Sky board if the legal system gets it's act together, bit of bad publicity here and there and it might just end up somewhere else, probably UK Gold or Dave,......

 

Anybody remember Live TV with topless darts, bouncing weather men and banger racing.............................

 

its the BBC that have screwed people over, not Sky.

 

plus, if sky subscription was compulsory im sure they would have 10 million f1 viewers.

 

the rabid defense of the BBC in this country baffles me. yes they produce some quality stuff, but you would hope so for £3.45bn a year

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

BBC F1 coverage gets 10 million viewers, Sky have 10 million UK customers roughly 1/3 of them take the sports package, how long before the sponsors realise it's a backward step?

 

Who cares about the UK audience when it's all sponsored by the likes of Petronas and the Chinese arm of UBS?