Puncture goes mental- the latest.

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

The best thing about Luxobarge's posts is that a Honda Accord is the sort of car I'd buy if I ever thought "fuck this old car shit, I want something easy to live with".

 

Sometimes it's nice to be reminded that it's not all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows.

[trigger]

Yeah but are they really that bad..?

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

The clutch bracket affair was.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

The best thing about Luxobarge's posts is that a Honda Accord is the sort of car I'd buy if I ever thought "fuck this old car shit, I want something easy to live with".

 

Sometimes it's nice to be reminded that it's not all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows.

 

I guess the moral of the story is that even the best car can be a bit of a nightmare (although I wouldn't class my own experience as 'nightmarish') if it's not maintained properly. The fact that I bought it in a bit of a haste didn't help matters, either.

[gtd2000]

The best thing about Luxobarge's posts is that a Honda Accord is the sort of car I'd buy if I ever thought "fuck this old car shit, I want something easy to live with".

 

Sometimes it's nice to be reminded that it's not all sunshine, lollipops and rainbows.

 

No, it's simply 5 pages of not being able to hammer a fucking socket onto a wheel nut is what it boils down to....

 

Too many mechanics these days just bolt on new parts without any skill - not that you need much skill to hammer on a socket....but I'm sure you get my drift

 

My last comment on this matter, is to source a long black (air gun type) socket and hammer the fucker on - then undo it.

 

The most difficult part of the process is getting the thoroughly wedged in wheel nut out of the socket.

 

Otherwise here's your other option and probably worth having in the back of the car as a backup plan:

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Car-Auto-Tubeless-Tire-Tyre-Puncture-Plug-Repair-Kit-/150616252751?pt=UK_Motorcycle_Parts&hash=item23116da14f

[Cavcraft]

Bit o/t sorry but I still remember being sent to fix a puncture on an earth mover years back using one of those kits you listed there GTD. I got 27 of the bleeding things straight through the hole and into the tyre before I finally got one to plug the hole. And then it went down the next day anyhow. FLAVA of the month I was not.

 

Wished I lived nearer to Luxobarge like I'd have a go at the socket hammering/swearing technique no problem.

[Rocket88]

If you're not used to working on rancid heaps of chod, it does take a bit of experience [and courage] to wade in with the heavy artillery when the recommended Haynes method won't budge the frigging thing. Many moons ago, I'd been trying to undo a particularly recalcitrant nut with my finest Taiwanese socket set. I approached an experienced bodge artist for help. A decent socket, ratchet, and a six foot scaffolding bar had it removed in a trice..................

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Right, it appears that I have found someone who is at least willing to have a decent go at it. On Tuesday, I'm driving it into an engineering shop where a blow torch will direct all its might at the hapless wheelnut. I fully expect the wheel to melt while the nut remains pretty much intact.

[504GL]

Right, it appears that I have found someone who is at least willing to have a decent go at it. On Tuesday, I'm driving it into an engineering shop where a blow torch will direct all its might at the hapless wheelnut. I fully expect the wheel to melt while the nut remains pretty much intact.

 

ICBM to crack a nut?

[tonedepear]

Whether it comes off or not, it'll have thoroughly learnt it's lesson.

[Conrad D. Conelrad]

Steel wheels FTW.

[504GL]

Steel wheels FTW.

 

Not letting some chimp mechanic/tyre fitter (an unfair generalisation I know) attack your locking wheel nuts - which are designed to be fragile so they're hard to get off - FTW!!!!!!

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Steel wheels FTW.

 

Not letting some chimp mechanic/tyre fitter (an unfair generalisation I know) attack your locking wheel nuts - which are designed to be fragile so they're hard to get off - FTW!!!!!!

 

Not possible when you have no tools and need tyres to be changed ASAP (though admittedly I only wanted the fronts changed).

[504GL]

Steel wheels FTW.

 

Not letting some chimp mechanic/tyre fitter (an unfair generalisation I know) attack your locking wheel nuts - which are designed to be fragile so they're hard to get off - FTW!!!!!!

 

Not possible when you have no tools and need tyres to be changed ASAP (though admittedly I only wanted the fronts changed).

 

All I have are the tools that came with the car as well as a cheapie Draper torque wrench from Amazon and a sliding extender bar thing. You could do it easily with the tools that should be in the wheel well of your car.

[John F]

Just picked the bloody thing up again. Turns out I was wrong...Instead of it being totally stuck, it's kinda broken and spinning freely without much else happening.

 

The spinning outer bit is irrelevant, the hammered-on socket engages with the bit in the middle that should be turned by the adaptor thingy. Unless that's broken as well (doubtful IMO, otherwise the head would just fall off the wheel bolt) – in which case it'll have to be drilled out.

[dieselnutjob]

I would like a photo of this world famous wheel nut/bolt/whatever with special spinny bit, please.

[Pete-M]

It'll be a standard issue jobbie. Some of 'em have a loose fitting sleeve around the head so you're not meant to be able to hammer a socket over 'em.

 

I tried the blowtorch, welding etc technique on the Heep. Using the proper tool for getting these things off is a lot easier and doesn't melt the lacquer on your alloys.

 

Still, this is how people gain experience so I'm gonna watch and learn.

[TimothyClaypole]

You could have popped into Virgin Racing and let them spin it off with a wheel gun while you were at Mets.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

FUGGIN ELL WHATS THE LATEST, I WANNA KNOW IF THIS NUT HAS COME UNDONE, ITS DRIVING ME MENTAL

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

The machine shop reckon there is no way to get it apart- "it'll need to be machined off together with the end of the stud- 130 quid plus VAT and you'll need to buy a new stud!"

 

They do seem honest enough, but this is fucking retarded...I'll just slap some TyreWeld on the thing and I'll turn up at the breakfast meeting next month and let everyone have a go at it!

[Cavcraft]

You'll be sorry you said that. Breakfast on you if we crack it?

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

sounds fair, as long as I don't have to pay for any alcohol (have had a couple of champagne breakfasts that looked rather expensive! )

[messerschmitt owner]

there is a moral here!

 

1. it isn't worth buying a shite car without the locking nut thing!

2. it would have been cheaper to scrap the thing

3. buy a car with decent tyres and punt it before needing to replace them

4. find a decent garage or go buy the tools to do the job yourself.

[M'coli]

To be fair about point 3 above, you can get a puncture in a new tyre! Or as someone else said, steel wheels FTW.

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

To add even more insult to injury, the key HAS been found- it was just hidden in an impossible-to-guess nook and the seller hadn't mentioned it so I had assumed it didn't exist.

[504GL]

there is a moral here!

 

1. it isn't worth buying a shite car without the locking nut thing!

2. it would have been cheaper to scrap the thing

3. buy a car with decent tyres and punt it before needing to replace them

4. find a decent garage or go buy the tools to do the job yourself.

 

You missed out 5 which is :

 

5. Don't let anyone else touch your nuts and always fit wheels yourself.

[messerschmitt owner]

there is a moral here!

 

1. it isn't worth buying a shite car without the locking nut thing!

2. it would have been cheaper to scrap the thing

3. buy a car with decent tyres and punt it before needing to replace them

4. find a decent garage or go buy the tools to do the job yourself.

 

You missed out 5 which is :

 

5. Don't let anyone else touch your nuts and always fit wheels yourself.

technically,that is the second half of no.4

 

This woman's doing a better job than the tyre fitters of Sheffield - steel town, my arse!

 

[504GL]

there is a moral here!

 

1. it isn't worth buying a shite car without the locking nut thing!

2. it would have been cheaper to scrap the thing

3. buy a car with decent tyres and punt it before needing to replace them

4. find a decent garage or go buy the tools to do the job yourself.

 

You missed out 5 which is :

 

5. Don't let anyone else touch your nuts and always fit wheels yourself.

technically,that is the second half of no.4

 

This woman's doing a better job than the tyre fitters of Sheffield - steel town, my arse!

 

 

*facepalm* I should learn to read shouldn't I?

 

I bought these and they've served me well. I run winter tyres on the 500 so I have to change wheels twice a year so it's worth buying decent tools.

 

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-69661-Ex ... 561&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-59080-Sq ... 576&sr=8-2

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Draper-30357-Mi ... 587&sr=8-2

[Pillock]

To add even more insult to injury, the key HAS been found- it was just hidden in an impossible-to-guess nook and the seller hadn't mentioned it so I had assumed it didn't exist.

 

I can't remember ever going out of my way to point out the location of a locking wheel nut key to a purchaser of one of my cars!

 

(In fact, I went out of my way to find a looks-right-but-doesn't-fit key when my ex-wife took over my Vectra. Planning ahead for when I slashed the tyres but I never got round to that)

[tonedepear]

(In fact, I went out of my way to find a looks-right-but-doesn't-fit key when my ex-wife took over my Vectra.)

 

 

Well played!