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Last weekend I was in the UK to see a car.

I was planning to drive it home, but it was untaxed. It had mot, and i had it insurenced by a dutch company in VIN number.

Arte there any possbilties to get it home on the road to The Netherlands?

Posted

Aye, just drive it.

If you do the V5 as 'for export', and do your best CONFUSED FORRINER routine in the unlikely event that plod take an interest, reckon you'd be alright.

I don't know what the actual rules are, but I bet most of the pigshit thick meatnecks of the ANPR INTERCEPTORZ don't either, and can't be arsed with the paperwork...

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The only thing is, the current owner do'nt wnat it this way, because he thinks he gets in trouble.

Posted
The only thing is, the current owner do'nt wnat it this way, because he thinks he gets in trouble.

you'll have the new owner slip, he'll be sending off the V5C - with proof of postage! He won't get into trouble

Posted
What is the car, out of interest?

A nice Russet brown Morris Ital

Posted

Tell him to stop being a bellend.

Or send his details & I'll tell him.

Posted

Just tell the current owner that all the export papers are in order and you have informed the relevant authorities so he will be absolved of any responsibility the moment you drive away.

Posted

Where about in the U.K is it? I'm just thinking if you can find someone nearby (to the car) with trade insurance then maybe they could tax it for you?

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Where about in the U.K is it? I'm just thinking if you can find someone nearby (to the car) with trade insurance then maybe they could tax it for you?

 

That's the proper way of doing it, but too much hassle taxing and then applying for a refund and what have you.

 

I'd go down the almost-legal route of booking an MOT next to the port (the law allows you to drive an untaxed car to a pre-booked MOT test appointment).

Posted

The exisiting owner doesnt send off the V5c in this instance -but the exported car strip at the back. I reckon a suitably worded receipt for him, confirming date (& time) of transfer of ownership should see him right. Give him a letter to forward to DVLA, with his slip confirming ownership & export, together with your details -ands he's watertight.

 

Keep a copy of that lot, prebook the ferry and keep the ticket with it too. In the unlikely event of getting stopped (Police arent interested in tax any more, civil offence & no earner for them) it would be a true bellend who gave you any trouble when shown the ''proof''. He'd gain nowt by reporting , other than paperwork, he cant impound the car as there's no back duty liable (you've only just acquired it!) & its all just a waste of everyones time.

 

So providing your docs are in order (MOT'd, insurered) you're safe to drive it , within a few days of taking ownership.

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I'm pretty sure that you can drive a car for export without tax. Seen it on the DVLA site somewhere.

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When my Polo departed from East Midlands Airport in an Irish direction, I snaffled the tax disc out of it since it was fook all use to the buyer, and worth three months rent to me. It's all done with cameras now, and he'd be in the emerald isle before I got it in the post - I left an old disc in the window just in case.

 

As for it being completely untaxed though, well I dunno. I can imagine POLICE! INTERCEPTOR! MEATHEADS! seizing it on the spot just to "make a point" whilst playing up to the cameras. Can you not bung it on some "borrowed" plates that you bring with you since they won't ping up on cameras, and you'll look legal then.

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It'll only be untaxed when it's cashed in at the DVLA.

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There's still the offence of "failure to display" though - rarely used these days as ANPR cameras don't give a blind chuff if you're displaying, but a bobby on the beat will.

More likely, if you're pulled for something else they'll tag the offence onto the end.

Posted

Yup.And send the summons where- exactly? Holland?

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I would just drive this, if you've got proof of insurance and an MOT and can show you're headed directly out of the UK (i.e. you've got a ferry ticket) the chance of a copper doing you is 0.000000001%, as Biqqle says where are they gonna send any correspondance to? Its more bother than its worth for him. As for the concerned previous owner, a clearly written receipt with date and time of transaction, and names/addresses/signatures of both buyer and seller is going to absolve him of responsibility for the car. At the end of the day though if he's not happy about that you cant force him to give you the car I suppose.

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Technically if you are a UK resident driving a UK registered car abroad your vehicle must still be taxed, as you're not I'd say from experience just do it and fuck them, they won't do anything.

 

I picked up a UK registered VW van to bring back to Jersey, I gave the owner back the tax disc as part of the deal and because Jersey has its own Dept of Motor Vehicles the seller didn't even have my address, in hindsight had I realised just how fucked the brakes were (whilst still working obviously) I'd have nailed the twatting van past every goddam ANPR and Gatso on the way back to the ferry, and all the owner had is my pay-as-you go moby number.

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Yup.And send the summons where- exactly? Holland?

 

But legally, until the DVLA receive the change of owner slip then it's still a UK car registered to a UK resident not showing a tax disc.

 

I think we're all pretty much in agreement - it's a bloody minefield, you're in reality not doing anything wrong however there are a few little technicalities that if you met a copper on a bad day, he could certainly give you a headache. As you could him, I guess.

Posted

Stick some Polish plates on it and if you're stopped just wave your arms about alot.

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