Cit BX or Reliant prototype?

[M'coli]

I've ben following dollywobbler's antics on Fachache and have read about the Landy selling for a tidy sum. Also on this Faceache thing was mentioned the Reliant FW11, which I've never heard of - the only FW11 I'd heard of was one Nigel Mansell drove in 1986. I followed the link posted (http://www.sporting-reliants.com/Prototypes2.htm) and clicked on a picture:

 

 

WOW! Is that a BX or what???!

[RedSparrow]

Yeah, Citroen bought the design.

[dollywobbler]

What confuses me is that I always thought the design originated with the Volvo Tundra. Where does that fit in?

 

The Reliant looks a bit like a cross between an FSO Polonez and a BX - which must make it super-shite!

[M'coli]

So did Reliant, as a small concern, suddenly realise the cost implications of putting it into production and sold it to a major, or did Citroen come knocking?

[catsinthewelder]

It looks like what would actually end up in production after a few rounds of cost cutting if BL had had the BX on their motorshow stand 5 years earlier.

[Father Ted]

Same designer effectively pedalling his design to several manufacturers - eventually PSA bought it.

Simples - the designer held the copyright until it was bought and he sold it.

[Sam Glover]

Apparently Otosan had a couple of Pinto-engined FW11s for testing and evaluation, but they decided they'd be too expensive to productionise.

 

The Cagdas was a slightly later proposal, developed in-house at the Koc Holding Research and Design Centre. Its most novel feature was the Turk Rotatif Motoru - a 2-rotor Wankel designed by Otosan and built in prototype form by Weslake Engineering.

 

Eventually, Koc decided to keep on flogging the Anadol horse instead. Many of the Cagdas' styling features were successfully mangled onto the A8.

 

Here's the FW11 at the Koc Museum, Istanbul:

 

 

...and the Cagdas:

 

 

...and a random pic of the glamourous A8. Phwooooorrr...

 

 

I feel it's important to remind you that Koc Holding also own the air-conditioning company Arcelik.

 

 

Sam

[dollywobbler]

Hi Sam - we've tempted you in at last! Thanks for the info.

 

Ian

[sporty-shite]

I must admit to being more than a little surprised that Sam Glover wasn't already "one of us".

[warren t claim]

I suppose my sig was correct then!

[daverapid]

I've ben following dollywobbler's antics on Fachache and have read about the Landy selling for a tidy sum. Also on this Faceache thing was mentioned the Reliant FW11, which I've never heard of - the only FW11 I'd heard of was one Nigel Mansell drove in 1986. I followed the link posted (http://www.sporting-reliants.com/Prototypes2.htm) and clicked on a picture:

 

 

WOW! Is that a BX or what???!

 

[kinkersaab]

^ is it just me, or does anyone else read "relaint" above, as Renault, it must be something to do with the typeface . Everytime i have seen it have read it as renault.

[kinkersaab]

 

yep, that must be it.

[mk2_craig]

Here's the FW11 at the Koc Museum, Istanbul:

 

 

...and the Cagdas:

 

 

I'm intrigued as to why a museum would fit, respectively, 1991 Escort GLX and 1997 Ka wheeltrims to two of its exhibits. One step away from bolting a set of Veyron rims to an E-type

[VWPowered]

"one of us".

 

 

from my old french car mags the renault 25 was originally going to be either the 21 or 40 intresting it has the 21 as what would have been the renault 19