warren t claim Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 The problem with F1 is that today's drivers aren't doing enough drinking and shagging, they're just too boring. When Lewis Hamilton turns up late for practice because he's been busy screwing that bird from the Pussycat Slags in the back of his trackside Sprite Alpine then I might start watching again.
RedSparrow Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 What Warren sed. What happened to that 'Formula First' idea that some rich Arab chap had? Where all the cars would be identical and so it was down to driver skill - seemed like a good plan to me.
pompei Posted March 3, 2011 Author Posted March 3, 2011 I'd prefer to see it more de-regulated so that the combined skill of the developers and drivers would prevail. So if they want to put a 5 litre turbo charged motor in a be-winged 6 wheeler that would be fine.
dollywobbler Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 it does get a bit dull sometimes - unless it rains of course, at which point it does get a lot better. There's a strong school of thought for teflon tyres then. That'd be fun! Or maybe all Grand Prix could be held in Wales? Stray sheep could liven up proceedings too. I'll always try and watch Spa - that's about the only place you really get a feel for the tremendous speed and grip as they tear up the hill. The sound of the cars is all wrong though. They should chuck the rule book away entirely APART from banning downforce and insisting that all teams use a Triumph Stag engine. It's arguably the best sounding V8 and the threat of timing chain meltdown or head gaskets frying would add a wonderful risk element to the race.
face Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 I'd prefer to see it more de-regulated so that the combined skill of the developers and drivers would prevail. So if they want to put a 5 litre turbo charged motor in a be-winged 6 wheeler that would be fine. Exactly, if a driver is prepared to drive a 300 mph bullet around for millions of quid a season then let him. Just as long as the spectators are safe
seth Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Motor Racing has always had regulations though. Thats what the "formula" is. Right back to the earliest days when cars had to be under or over a certain weight and have certain max engine bore size or whatever. And there have always been cars that were leaps ahead of the rest for one reason or another. No one else bothered trying to compete when Hitler ploughed money into the sport.
HillmanImp Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 What Warren sed. What happened to that 'Formula First' idea that some rich Arab chap had? Where all the cars would be identical and so it was down to driver skill - seemed like a good plan to me. If it was this one you were thinking about, it went to the wall: http://www.pitpass.com/fes_php/pitpass_news_item.php?fes_art_id=43019
Formula Autos Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 I love F1, some races are a bit boring but most are pretty good and it's far more interesting than watching a ball being kicked about. Plus the fans don't feel the need to fight each other every 5 minutes. The drivers sometimes resort to violence though:
warren t claim Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 F1 would be more fun to watch if the drivers drove around an oval circuit in Farinas deliberately smashing into each other.
Cavcraft Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Good think Warren, the regulators could then knock points off them if they still have a chassis number or don't have Hiab marks on the roof.
mcqueenmachine Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 This happened. Launch of a book about the greatest F1 driver of them all - no, not Senna or Schumacher, Jim Clark. The venue was Donnington Park and the great and the good had gathered - John Watson, Sir Jackie, Murray. The jocular mood changed suddenly. Bernie was coming and was minutes away. His helicopter landed and all 4ft 7ins of him emerged in a smart blazer and highy-polished shoes. He walked up and down the line-up of F1 cars wheeled out of Mr Wheatcroft's collection like he was inspecting troops, No-one spoke there was complete silence. 'Wasn't Formula One great' said the dimunitive Billionaire, 'before I fucked it up.' Total silence, crackling with fear.... 'Yah, ha, hah, ha' he cackled. And everyone else laughed, a bit too much. nb. I also have a great story about when he was mugged but I'm not going to make the considerable mistake of repeating it here.
simmo Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 One thing they could borrow from oval racing (stocks not bangers) is to have the fastest cars go off the back of the grid they talked about this but considered that all the overtaking woulkd be dangerous. I've seen Stering Moss throw a Farina round an Oval and than man can drive (not that I doubted it)
fotorabia Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Bernie Ecclestones contribution to motor racing is like Andy Warhols contribution to Nazi Art..ive even heard rumours that Stirling Moss is another cross dressing Nazi..
fotorabia Posted March 3, 2011 Posted March 3, 2011 Stirling Moss is Jewish isn't he?Never stopped u being a fascist..
PaykanHunter Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 Guys! Don't worry! Uncle Bernie wants "Artificial Rain" to increase F1 fun!!!... He always has an answer, doesn't he?! Read more: http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/75799,spo ... z1FbBXCtjj
Alpineandy Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 Motor Racing has always had regulations though. Thats what the "formula" is.But they don't apply if you drive a ferrari, that's why it's called the FIA 'Ferrari International Assistance'!
RoadworkUK Posted March 4, 2011 Posted March 4, 2011 Well, International Touring Car racing needs more viewers (and more interesting cars to be honest...) so: Hold ITC races and F1 races simultaneously and on the same tracks! Just like LeMans, with various classes competing at the same time, where the Sports Prototypes always piss all over the production-derived Porkers, Fezzas etc. Barry Cello's antics would be ever so much more entertaining if he had to brake hard into paddock to avoid an errant Mercedes C-Class Touring car....
CIH Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 F1 has always been shit but people with no interest in motorsport seem to place great stock by it.It's so poilitical, financially motivated and souless. Toyota makes a badass V12- banned, Renault makes a steerng damper thing- banned, Ferrari makes a system that cuts engine power during poor grip conditions that absolutly isn't traction cotrol oh no- not banned and so on.
retrogeezer Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 F1 has always been shit but people with no interest in motorsport seem to place great stock by it. Harsh!! I spend a lot of time watching BTCC, WTCC, WRC, GP2 etc etc - is that o.k?
Vin Posted March 5, 2011 Posted March 5, 2011 I love F1, some races are a bit boring but most are pretty good and it's far more interesting than watching a ball being kicked about. Plus the fans don't feel the need to fight each other every 5 minutes. Harsh!! I spend a lot of time at Football matches, yet have never felt the need to fight anyone - is that o.k?
Guest Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 F1 would be better if they scrapped the entire thing and replaced it with the plot of Death Race 2000.
fotorabia Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 I gave up after they killed off Ayrton Senna.. The cause of the accident has been identified as a steering column failure. Many court cases followed immediately afterwards and the judgment went on for years, with Williams being investigated for manslaughter. The last word from the Italian Court of Appeal was on April 13, 2007. In the verdict numbered 15050 the Court stated the following: "It has been determined that the accident was caused by a steering column failure. This failure was caused by badly designed and badly executed modifications. The responsibility of this falls on Patrick Head, culpable of omitted control". Even being found responsible for Senna's accident, Patrick Head wasn't arrested: in Italy the statute of limitation for manslaughter is 7 years and 6 months, and the final verdict was pronounced 13 years after the accident. The column had been shortened by removing a piece from the middle..it snapped..it needed to be one complete length...read the rest of the Wikipedia article..http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayrton_Senna
Formula Autos Posted March 6, 2011 Posted March 6, 2011 I gave up after they killed off Ayrton Senna.. The cause of the accident has been identified as a steering column failure. At the risk of thread drift, what killed Senna was the wall he ran into, that arguably should have been moved years previously given the speed the cars went past at that point of the circuit. Berger's accident there (in,I think, '88) when his Ferrari burst into flames (something F1 cars at the time rarely did, even in severe accidents), due to the sudden deceleration involved bursting the fuel tank, should arguably have led to the wall being replaced with armco/tyres or something similar. As for Patrick Head's supposed liability, was Colin Chapman liable for Jochen Rindt's death in 1970 (also in Italy) when the suspension broke on his Lotus? Motor racing is (self-evidently) dangerous. F1 is safer now, but strapping yourself into a 200-odd mph open-topped projectile with a cockpit barely bigger than yourself, that weighs less than a '70s supermini, is never going to be safe. The drivers know this, accept it, and are usually paid handsomely for their trouble. F1 is the cutting edge of motorsport, involving what are basically experimental prototypes. Perhaps you could compare it to flying test planes? Mistakes will inevitably be made by the people making and running the cars. Does it make them killers? IMO, no. Anyhow, not really an Autoshite talking point, I suppose. Have some Autoshite stylee motorsport to make up for it (red-hot Simca action at one point):
dollywobbler Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Balls to F1. I've only just caught up with the WRC this year, watching all the Sweden footage on YouTube. Bloody brilliant. Full of surprises and a lot more sideways action that previous years. Shows how difficult it is when an F1 star is still finding his feet and spinning a lot. Best bit was when Petter Solberg had to let his co-driver take the wheel because he lost his licence for speeding!
HillmanImp Posted March 7, 2011 Posted March 7, 2011 Balls to F1. I've only just caught up with the WRC this year, watching all the Sweden footage on YouTube. Bloody brilliant. Full of surprises and a lot more sideways action that previous years. Shows how difficult it is when an F1 star is still finding his feet and spinning a lot. Best bit was when Petter Solberg had to let his co-driver take the wheel because he lost his licence for speeding! Martin Brundle swapped his F1 car with a rally car once and even stated in print (it was a column in a sunday newspaper) that rallying is a much more difficult sport and how much respect he has for the rally chaps. Seem to remember him backtracking shorty afterwards when questioned about it. Do love the rallying but the coverage does not seem as exciting as it was in the 1980's for some reason (with William Woolard, not sure if it was him that made it exciting) . It might just be that I am not under 10 years old anymore. I also watched GP2 when ITV4 showed it. Was very good. Much better than F1 IMO. And it also proved that its not a great F1 feeder series as the people who were good in that have flunked in F1 (De Grazzi and Grosjean) with an exception of Senna who was shit in both. Kobayashi was whack in GP2 but has been ace to wach in F1. Just goes to show. *edit* I just noticed that my post count is the same as the cc on my Imp engine. Sweet.
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