MR_BOL'S EUROSHITE SCANS - New Jan 2018 - Renault 4 built by Alfa Romeo

[garethj]

Top scanning, bo11!

 

From the write-up, owning one of those Tagoras nowadays makes a Panhard look sensible. I still would though

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Hey I've just realised I've missed a big chunk of that Tagora article. I'll sort it out later

[shedvan]

Great posting Mr Bo11ox these French magazines seem to outdo their UK counterparts quite easily don't they, more detail and insight in comparison.

 

That does make a bewitching case for the Tagora, sounds riddled with just the right amount of aggravation and virtue to make a top Shite car.

 

Incidentally was that right that the Ford Taunus had a 2.0 V6? Don't suppose that ever made it off mainland Europe?

[garycox]

These are great, cheers for translating!!

[Luxobarges_Are_Us]

Mmmm what a way to celebrate my return to AS after a few days with limited to no access to the internets!

 

Merci Beaucoup, Misteur Bolleaux!

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Text now updated to include the missing pages!

[TagoraSX]

Fantastique!

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I've got a wodge of these mags, I always buy one when I go over the channel. They are absolutley chocka with Qualz0rz euro-shite, this months had an 8-pager on the Alfa 6 which I will probably get round to eventually.

 

next up: Borgward Arabella, I had never even heard of this car, great story though.

 

[phil_lihp]

Nice work with the scans, thanks for taking the time to do it, that must have taken a while to translate. The 604/Tagora really did seem to be deficient in just about every aspect and therefore doomed from the start, madness really considering it was up against cars like the CX, I really can't see a reason why anyone would have bought one. Obviously that means muchos respect to anyone masochistic enough to own one now with the additional problem of 25+ years of decay.

 

50's chod's not normally my cup of tea but I passed an older gent driving a lovely off-white Isabella a little while ago and was pathetically excited not only to see one, but to recognise it.

[Shep Shepherd]

I bought both Youngtimers and Gazoline in Dunkirk today - GR11 for brushing up on my French reading skills. If only we had equivalent magazines in the UK.

[pompei]

GR9 work, thanks for taking the time to scan and translate

[carlo]

Looking forward to the Alfa 6! Then perhaps I could commission a translation on one of my Glas V8 articles...

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I would, but theyre in German right? Sadly I suspect it would end up looking like a 2004 Babelfish effort.

[carlo]

I would, but theyre in German right? Sadly I suspect it would end up looking like a 2004 Babelfish effort.

 

Yes of course they are, didn't think of that. I'll just keep looking at the pictures!

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Alright shiters, here a new Euroshite box for you to soak up - no-one does any work on christmas eve so I sat in my office today and translated this for your delectation instead. CITROEN LN!

 

 

 

 

 

It was the first child of a forced marriage between Peugeot & Citroen. And to be honest, it was not a star child. Illegitimate, hurriedly conceived under a cover of shame during an unenthusiastic honeymoon. The big dreams of the firm with the Chevrons were over, as it read the last rites to its two star players, the DS coming to the end of its career and the SM, for which so much had been hoped facing an abrupt chop. The hopes of maintaining a 1-year technological lead over competitors with the rotary engine as seen in the GS birotor and Ami M35 were buried once and for all. Peugeot had other plans for its princess in rags. The manufacturer from Sochaux had purchased Citroen as a means to attack the bottom end of the market. Was it a petty revernge effort from a company which had for years lived in the shadow of its flamboyant compatriot? Who knows. But in view of the ‘rejeton’ which came out of this (mis)alliance between the prudish and bourgoise Sochalienne and the elitist and inventive Javelienne, one can glean a rough idea…. Even if Peugeot made out to have dreamed up the car to ‘save’ its partner.

Unveiled in 1976 the Citroen LN was nothing other than the bodyshell of a Peugeot 104, the little 2-door ‘coupe’ hatchback, at the time selling itself wantonly as the car for a young and active clientele.  The LNA took all the 104’s attributes, only distinguishing itself with a pair of chevrons on a remodelled front grille plus revised headlights, indicators and front valance. Hardly enough to actually give the car its own personality. On the interior too, a quick makeover was carried out with the Citroën monospoke steering wheel and chevron logo being the only changes. IN fact, the only real feature which made the LN into a car in its own right was the engine: the 2-cylinder 2CV in its 602cc version, making 32hp at 5750 rpm. It was coupled with a GS 4-speed box which allowed the LN to couch 75mph approx. Not a lot there for a car which was to be stamped with a double chevron. No hydraulic suspension, to high technology…  It was just a 104, with a 2-cylinder voice that was its sole identifying feature.

 

Built in both the Aulnay-sous-Bois factory and another in Forest, Belgium, the LN was shunned by the public despite an advertising campaign from the studios of Hergé. The suggestion was a little forced, making a point of the car’s young and friendly qualities, ‘the car that simplifies your life’. However sales were more symbolic than had been hoped for. Was it the fault of a straightforward lack of charm? Almost certainly. Although also the weakness of the car’s mechanicals were a factor. In November 1978, the LN became the LNA and was given the 652cc engine of the Visa, which brought 3 more horsepower but a remarkable 25% more torque. The public reacted ‘gently’ to this upgrade. But PSA battled on and in july 1982, a final development, the LNA 11E and RE were born, using the 1124 4-cylinder suitcase engine from the Visa, Talbot Samba and…. 104. Thus was finished the particularity of the car! The LNA joined the range until summer 1985, when all derivatives were quietly pulled. A total of 129,000 LN’s and 220,000 LNA’s were built. A dismal number for a car that was supposed to bring Citroen back to life. And the beginning of the end of the technological era for the firm from the Quai de Javel , reduced to being a subcontractor for the next 20 years.

 

 

 

Saved from destruction - Bruno Viet’s 1981 LNA

Bruno Viet’s clock is stuck in the 1980’s. But, its not really his fault. Just a few years back he was already well into old cars, but more specifically 1950’s 2CV’s. But during the 90’s a succession of government scrappage schemes encouraged motorists to replace their old car with a new one. For Bruno it was a time of great joy and misery. Misery, because any number of interesting older cars went over the weigh bridge. Joy, because they could often be bought for a pittance, barely more than scrap value. “Sadly I didn't have enough space, money or time to save all the cars that interested me. But it was the scrappage scheme that brought this LNA into my custodianship as it was deemed too old! It was in much the same condition as you see it here, as it was very sound and driving perfectly. All I’ve done since is service it now and then. terrible to think it was going to end up flat!!!

 

Nevertheless, looking at it in the 21^st century, it’s a car not without appeal. “I’ve never really known why, but ever since I first saw the LN, I felt it was a Citroen†says the owner of the 1981 LNA in our pics. “I remember that despite its appearance sat here, you never mistook an LN on the road. You could tell at once that it wasn’t a 104, with its short wheelbase and chopped-off coupe tail which never seemed to quite work as a Peugeot. What was the difference? The vertical indicators outboard of the headlamps? The 10-bar grille with tiny plastic chevrons barely chromed? The thin metal bumpers with their rubber strips and their corresponding rubber side strips? The side windows which looked bigger than the 104 versions, but which had just lost their vertical deflector strip? Or maybe the vinyl strip across the tail with a little ‘Citroen LNA’ monogram? No doubt it was all of these little things, plus the note of the engine which was of course nothing like the 104’s.

 

On board, the sensation of belonging to the Citroen world is equally sparse. The seats are trimmed in a unique fabric, named ‘cockerels foot’.  No doubt a more masculine version of the ‘chickens foot’ name often given to this type of fabric with its repeating pattern evoking the footprint of our feathered friends. Its neat enough but quite forgettable. The comfort of the seats is pretty good, although some headrests wouldn’t go amiss. The general ambience inside is very restrained. Painted steel, plastic trim pieces and black leather-look vinyl. On the floor, a combination of rubber anti-slip mats. Nothing luxurious, functional above all, like the door trims with a simple armrest, a slightly obvious window winder handle and a form moulded around the winder mechanisim in the upper part of the door.

The dashboard is lifted from the 104, with a little tweak specific to the engine; the speedometer has 3 red sections and yellow markings to help the driver change gear at just the right moment. From 1979, the odometer changed to a six-digit unit. You’ll find this little nugget in the second gauge, on the left, where theres also warning lights for charging, main beam, sidelights, oli pressure, indicators. The other key difference from the 104 is the single-spoke citroen steering wheel. Everything else is 100% Peugeot and a lesson in vacuum-formed and injection moulded plastic. 80’s, before the 80’s arrived. The heating system, with its levers that direct the hot air into the drive’s face or feet, is good, though of course the the cold air comes straight in from outdoors. In those days of course manufacturers were not in the habit of integrating a complete climate control system like they are today. Such as it is, the efficiency of the heating system is excellent. Defrosting the screen is a quick operation and even in winter you can boil yourself up inside the cabin. The rear window gained a heating element from July 1980, which was more a necessity than a luxury as the angle of the rear window did not defrost itself terribly well even with the interior well heated. On the floor, a sort of console made for a token transmission tunnel feature, although it was only there to provide a home for a speaker in the event that someone fitted a radio (itself fitted at a not-very-ergonomic knee-height in a dedicated slot beneath the dashboard).

 

Like the 104 coupe, the LNA is really a 2-seater, though the rear seat can accommodate, with some promiscuity, two passengers for a short while. It’s a proper seat, of which the back rest can be folded in two separate halves, helpful in view of the compact boot space. You get to the rear seats by folding the front ones, though it requires a certain flexibility of course to install yourself without clocking your head or an elbow or whatever. Basically the rear seat is really no good for anyone over 1.69m!

 

But, the most interesting feature is elsewhere. When you get behind the wheel and fire up the engine. There, you’re certain to notice something. The chuffing of the air-cooled twin is not at all what you expect from the ‘modern’ two-box bodyshell. It’s a bit like if you went to see a film and the sound was totally out of sync with the picture, the square-jawed hero speaking with a high pitched squeaky voice! Bizarre. “I told you, it’s a Citroen!†says  Bruno, noticing my slightly bewildered look. The gear lever is on the floor, which confuses the hardcore 2CV’er I think myself to be. I take a breath and set off into the traffic. “A bit weird, eh?†says my co-driver. “You’ll see though, you’ll soon take to itâ€Â. In fact, within a few minutes I’m completely at ease, ambling along the backroads of Laon, appreciating the small dimensions of the car. Very few people even notice the car let alone question the 2cv engine noise coming from it. The LN is not yet recognised as a ‘classic car’ of any note. Its nevertheless a very reliable, practical, and manoeuvreable little thing. Parking it is a treat, you can sneak it into a space no bigger than a handkerchief. Its very much a car for a housewife needing to take kids to school and fetch the shopping. A sort of French Fiat 500 if you like.

 

Driving

Any sort of driving sensations are limited by the clipped behaviour of the LNA’s chassis. One thing you do notice is the size, especially if you are taller than 1.9m. My head is brushing the headlining and the steering wheel is almost touching  my thighs. The seat is set as far back as it will go of course. Its not much bigger than a pencil-sharpener! But after a while I settle into a position which is comfortable as we bowl along the country lanes. The gear ratios are well chosen, although you have to take care with the gearlever due to a very wide neutral plane. The car lacks torque and power of course. To get up to 70 on the dual carriageway, takes time and commitment. No chance of battling with any GTi’s. I can just about hope to burn off the scooter that’s clogging up half the road in front of me. To get anything worthwhile out of it you have to gun it and make use of those orange markings on the speedometer. The twinpot revs up willingly and the sound tells you it’s loving being caned. The roadholding is excellent and braking (front discs, rear drums) really sharp despite the lack of servo and the whole set up encourages you to row the 706kg ensemble along enthusiastically. One downside is the ride quality. Theres no spheres or combined spring/damper units (like the 2CV) here and you’re a long way from the comfort they offer. You’re back in a Peugeot. Perfect on a smooth, well-surfaced road, downright harsh on the cobbles and rough surfaces. The car feels like its about to enter into some sort of resonance. “all four wheels are independent – very independent and you notice it particularly when you come across a hidden copper with a radar gun. Then you end up with your head in the headlining and a bashed coccycx. You’ve no chance of getting your eggs safely across a ploughed field in this car†confirms Bruno. 

A few kilometres later, we stop to have a squizz under the bonnet, opened with a little handle beneath the dashboard. The very least you can say is that  space is at a premium, even with a small 2-cylinder unit. Opening the bonnet the main thing you see is the spare wheel, lodged between the strut top to one side and the air filter to the other. To see more, you have to lift that out. Even so, its not easy to see beneath all the tubes, cables and other hardware,  the Visa’s aircooled unit, buried right down low. It’s lifted from the contemporary Visa club, although  supposedly develops an extra 0.5 horsepower at a slightly lower speed thanks to a twin-choke Solex carb and integral electronic ignition. The oil filler neck, breather system, front-mounted alternator are clearly visible and you are fairly sure you can see a GS gearbox under there too. “Its certainly the most compact front-drive set-up of any Citroen†says Bruno. The steering rack is also very discreet. Its also one of the cars best assets, with quite a high ratio giving a sharp, precise turn-in but never feeling heavy.

 

As my host says, “You can always criticise the idea of taking a car, giving it another car’s mechanics and hoping to create a big deal at little cost. But you have to admit, the car is much less awful than was claimed at the timeâ€Â. The press, its true, was never easy on the LN. With the exception of ‘l’Automobile’, one of the few who found the car ‘very honest, and as good as it could be’ in its November 1976 edition, commenting on the disparity of the elements that had come together to create the LN. “Its not a poverty version of the 104, and its not a ‘grand touring’ version of the 2CV. In our opinon it’s a car with a personality very much its own, and which would be even more so if it just had a little more oomph. As it is, its an excellent town car, willing and friendlyâ€Â.

With the LNA, PSA partially responded to these comments. But, only partially. They really needed to tray a lot harder to give this car its own personality, as peugeot tried to do with the 104 ZS. But Peugeot had other ambitions for this car which would ultimately come to fruition on another hybrid car, the Visa. With notably more success, thanks to a more considered gestation and a much more marked identity, both technical and aesthetic.

 

 

[Pillock]

Wow, thanks Bol!

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Got another serious pile of shite coming up......

 

[ProgRocker]

I wish I had access to French car mags like these 19 years ago - I reckon that these could have helped me pass A Level French in 1996 and make the subject more enjoyable. Quel dommage!

[Alexg]

You translated all that? Amazing work, thanks!

[hauserplenty]

Top translating sir! Somebody ought to Youtube this stuff indeed!

 

Lovely bird...beaut'iful plewme-idge:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vw-7E24flE

 

 

Right, he'll be taking the Wrecko exit here shortly:

 

 

Bad guys? Drive French cars? We?:

 

 

"OK, well you drive now:"

 

 

All aboard the Autoshite party bus:

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Hey we've not had one of these for a while have we. I bought a copy of Gazoline while I was away so here is a little nugget about a grade A shite box which I am sure will interest you espiecially if you are one of our many Renner lickers. I knew nowt about these but they sound like top level shite, I bet they make a bloody awful daily. Want!!!!

 

 

 

A MINIMALIST 4x4 - The renault 18 4x4 Break!

 

The world was not yet speaking of SUV's when, in 1983, Renault introduced its estate car equipped with a 4wd system. Only a few details differentiate it: A large stonechip band round the lower sections of the bodywork; a pair of indicator repeaters; a little 4x4 badge on the tailgate and a slightly taller ride height. It was hardlty a radical 4x4, but its capabilities were appreciated in mountainous regions for its increased safety on icy and slippery rough roads.

 

The Renner 18 4x4 was amed at a clientele who didnt want a big heavy traditional 4x4, but who couldnt stomach a mere pair of driven wheels. A sort of compromise, capable of performing as a conventionnal family car but up for a bit of scrambling now and then. Ambitions were modest and based on experiences learned with former 4x4 collaborator Sinpar. This time, the manufacturer opted for an in-house integral 4x4 transmission so as to minimise costs and achieve the simplest 4x4 package; an OT1 rear axle taken straight from the Trafic van and mounted on coil springs and modified twin-output gearbox with no transfer box or low-range gears, although the ratios were revised compared to the standard R18. The gearbox had a revised rear housing with the rear output flange engaged via a synchromeshed selector operated by a simple lever between the seats. The floorpan of the R18 needed some fairly major surgery to integrate this new layout and featured a new transmission tunnel, modified rear crossmember, revised suspension mounting points, exhaust and rear seat!!!

 

The rear axle is a very slightly modified Trafic unit. To the right, the lever which engages the rear drive elements of the transmission.

 

Engaging the rear-drive is a little disarming as there is only a very short travel on the lever and a large force is required to operate it. But it can be done rapidly which is useful and it can be done on the move (with the clutch depressed of course). Handy if you encounter some unexpected ice ot whatever on the road. in 2wd operation, as there are no freewheeling hubs or diff, the rear transmission is always being 'towed along' as you drive which brings penalties in terms of noise, inertia, fuel consumption and performance. Its of course the downside of such a simple 4wd system. 2 4-cyl engines were available; the 1647cc/74ch petrol (actually replaced in 1986 by the 1995cc of the R18 GTX) or the 2068cc/67ch diesel. The petrol could achieve the slightly higher top speed of the two, in the region of 90mph. The diesel had better low-speed torque availability but was also heavier (particularly noticeable under braking).

 

Good points: Performance on rough ground, comfort

Bad points: Underpowered, body roll in normal use

 

 

From inside, beyond the 4x4 lever and the 4x4 indicator light on the dash it was standard R18 fare. Where the interest comes, is in the driving. ON snow and loose surfaces, and steep slopes (up to 37%!) the traction is really impressive. Clearly you're not going to win any fights with a Land Rover of course, mainly due to the lack of any low-range gearing and the relatively large F & R overhangs. The R18 4x4 can quickly run out of steam in soft sand if you don't give it the beans which can seem a little brutal, and on undulating surfaces the pendular motion of the soft rear suspension can be a bit unpleasant. Its difficult to avoid that, and the rigidity of the rear axle can also induce oversteer and put you in a slide. This is entertaining if you want it but probably not if you are trying to get down an icy country lane. On top of that, to aid articulaion of the wheels Renault deleted the front anti roll bar. This works well at its intended function but on the road you certainly notice the increased wobbliness of the front end. LAst point is the ground clearance. Too low (16.5cm) for serious off road yomping. You have to approach obstacles slowly and take care not to belly the car out on its sump or floorpan! Take care with that or it'll be you who has to dig/push/shove it out.

 

A little higher on its feet that the standard R18, the 4x4 also has a distinctive aesthetic treatment with the lower sections of the bodywork painted with an anthracite-coloured anti-stonechip coating.

 

In summary: A good car for playing at being a runaway! No more, no less.

[Split_Pin]

I enjoyed that, didn't know this car existed. Pity they don't make this instead of the Duster nowadays!

[Alexg]

Top work again. I'm off to Leboncoin...

[catsinthewelder]

Top chod with a factory tidemark  EPIC WANT  !!!11!! 

 

Thanks for translating this Mr B

[Felly Magic]

Slight cock up in the article though, the Renner Tragic was front wheel drive, so I doubt its the van rear axle somehow, otherwise its megashite

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Hey you're right!!!! I never thought of that.

[Jim Bergerac]

There was a 4x4 version of the Trafic too, wasn't there?

[dollywobbler]

There was a 4x4 version of the Trafic too, wasn't there?

 

Yes. It used the rear axle of a Renault 18 and therefore created a paradox. This lost it some sales.

[catsinthewelder]

Heres a 4x4 Tragic

 

 

 

 

[nisfan]

Another thing that differentiated it from the standard 18 is that it didnt work 99% of the time as opposed to 98% of the time

 

I can say this as i own one of these chod boxes