Collection thread - now the "quite cheap but already quite broken" C6 thread

[GeordieInExile]

18 minutes ago, cort16 said:

I just went out and my driver side window has cracked for no apparent reason. 

Does it always drop properly when opening the door..?

[cort16]

3 minutes ago, GeordieInExile said:

Does it always drop properly when opening the door..?

Yes , no idea why it cracked . Heat maybe it’s roasting here today ?

[camryv6]

I can't understand why everybody doesn't own one of these 😕 

[RichardK]

7 minutes ago, camryv6 said:

I can't understand why everybody doesn't own one of these 😕 

They only made 20,000, they got about 1,000 RHDs to the UK and some of those were so hard to sell new they went to NZ?

[camryv6]

1 minute ago, RichardK said:

They only made 20,000, they got about 1,000 RHDs to the UK and some of those were so hard to sell new they went to NZ?

I was being sarcastic with the amount of faults they have, i mean a window just randomly breaking and people buying them with faults and accepting that it is normal

[RichardK]

Just now, camryv6 said:

I was being sarcastic with the amount of faults they have, i mean a window just randomly breaking and people buying them with faults and accepting that it is normal

Oh, I got that too, my opinion on C6s is not a secret - but I think the rarity is why people tolerate this stuff.

[cort16]

1 minute ago, camryv6 said:

I was being sarcastic with the amount of faults they have, i mean a window just randomly breaking and people buying them with faults and accepting that it is normal

They have a reputation so anyone who buys one now should really know what they're getting themselves in for.

[camryv6]

I can see the appeal of driving one and not seeing another one coming the other way, but bloody hell you must have clenched buttocks all the time

[camryv6]

1 minute ago, cort16 said:

They have a reputation so anyone who buys one now should really know what they're getting themselves in for.

Exactly, i can understand why you bought one, i have seen your track record, but what about the other people ? 

[Rust Collector]

2 minutes ago, camryv6 said:

people buying them with faults and accepting that it is normal

I wouldn't pull at that thread, it could unravel a lot of the popular car models on this forum 🤣

[camryv6]

31 minutes ago, Rust Collector said:

I wouldn't pull at that thread, it could unravel a lot of the popular car models on this forum 🤣

But surely nothing as bad as a C6 ?

[fatmanblue]

51 minutes ago, Rust Collector said:

I wouldn't pull at that thread, it could unravel a lot of the popular car models on this forum 🤣

Yes that's not specific to a particular car model...

[cort16]

23 minutes ago, camryv6 said:

But surely nothing as bad as a C6 ?

I'd say my 320si is objectively worse.  Low volumes, hard to get parts, 98.2%  chance of the engine shitting itself at some point.

The c6 is up there though and is the reason they're very hard to sell over a certain price. I ended up paying 2k for mine geordieinexile paid less than that i think and both of ours have serious service histories and would be seen as good examples.

On the way to pick mine up one identical with a long mot. good history but a handbrake fault was up for £1500 bins. 

I'd say at a specific price point they're worth it though. These are the last gasp of the Citroen madness after this it was just re bodied peugeots. 

[camryv6]

6 minutes ago, cort16 said:

I'd say my 320si is objectively worse.  Low volumes, hard to get parts, 98.2%  chance of the engine shitting itself at some point.

The c6 is up there though and is the reason they're very hard to sell over a certain price. I ended up paying 2k for mine geordieinexile paid less than that i think and both of ours have serious service histories and would be seen as good examples.

On the way to pick mine up one identical with a long mot. good history but a handbrake fault was up for £1500 bins. 

I'd say at a specific price point they're worth it though. These are the last gasp of the Citroen madness after this it was just re bodied peugeots. 

So it is less of a risk than your old 320si lol

[cort16]

1 minute ago, camryv6 said:

So it is less of a risk than your old 320si lol

It doesn't sound great when you say it like that 😂

[eifion]

I bought mine fully aware of their reputation and the potential expense of fixing it when it inevitably goes wrong. I've liked them ever since they were new and for the £2K I paid I'm willing to take the risk, hope I get a year's use out of it, and if it goes horribly wrong I'll leave it on the drive and treat it as a piece of automotive sculpture.

[fatmanblue]

Tempting fate, but I've put 20,000 miles on mine every year for almost fifteen years.  It's been on a recovery truck once but otherwise has not let me down. I do make use of the services of a good and reasonably priced specialist, but not very often.  I know several people who run German cars or JLR products, I don't know how they afford it.

And life is too short to drive boring cars.

[GeordieInExile]

1 hour ago, eifion said:

I bought mine fully aware of their reputation and the potential expense of fixing it when it inevitably goes wrong. I've liked them ever since they were new and for the £2K I paid I'm willing to take the risk, hope I get a year's use out of it, and if it goes horribly wrong I'll leave it on the drive and treat it as a piece of automotive sculpture.

Until it goes on fire. 

[Schaefft]

I think the C6 owners of this forum can sleep in peace at night knowing that I will buy their box of misery the moment the price drops below the £1500 mark. Why wouldn't you own one then?

The window cracking can only be related to stress caused by the auto up and down having not done its job once too often. I can't imagine why particularly the drivers door window would otherwise.

[RoverFolkUs]

Imagine if Jaguar or Land Rover produced something as bipolar as these fuckers....

....

.....people would queue up to buy the things as they do!

[RichardK]

3 hours ago, cort16 said:

 

I'd say at a specific price point they're worth it though. These are the last gasp of the Citroen madness after this it was just re bodied peugeots. 

I think that's why I hated mine most.

I wanted Citroën madness, but the true Citroën madness is the C5 II with HP suspension, V6s, curved window (or sensible wagon) plus fixed hub wheel etc. - a more cohesive car, a more effective car, and actually a more authentic Citroën IMO.

Whereas the C6 was a wonderful concept slapped on hold for five years - during which time PSA gave Peugeot all the love and treated Citroën like the unwanted step child in a fairytale - then production engineered onto an existing platform with a lot of old tech retained despite the delays hitting the market and a bunch of features just dropped (check out the adaptive cruise control symbols left on the instrument pack, for example). The suspension bushes and bearings on mine seemed woefully underspecced, I think it was a very cynical PR exercise possibly done to test the water for a DS brand - and had they held it back, developed it more, it could have been a stunning DS relaunch halo model.

But in the showroom it looked stunning right until you sat in a C5 Exclusive with multi-adjustable seats, RT5 Navidrive etc. and realised the C6 would never be allowed to catch up because it was so short-run and unprofitable.

It was never intended to be competitive, to be better - it was there just to milk cash from CX/XM diehards and francophile heads of state. Whereas DS, CX and XM set out to do things differently in the belief they were doing it /better/, and were planned to sell in volume. This was PSA doing a JDM style Nissan Pike/Sera type car for fashion but without the dealer training or lifestyle common sense (the Pluriel does that aspect better IMO).

It is the perfect 21st century autoshite car because it is the 21st century Tagora - a clever and interesting design rendered into a bit of a compromised lemon by PSA's determination to not let the family firm be outgunned by a subsidiary.

[TheOtherStu]

So what we're saying is that a decent percentage of C6s are owned by members on this forum 😆

[cort16]

11 hours ago, RichardK said:

I think that's why I hated mine most.

I wanted Citroën madness, but the true Citroën madness is the C5 II with HP suspension, V6s, curved window (or sensible wagon) plus fixed hub wheel etc. - a more cohesive car, a more effective car, and actually a more authentic Citroën IMO.

Whereas the C6 was a wonderful concept slapped on hold for five years - during which time PSA gave Peugeot all the love and treated Citroën like the unwanted step child in a fairytale - then production engineered onto an existing platform with a lot of old tech retained despite the delays hitting the market and a bunch of features just dropped (check out the adaptive cruise control symbols left on the instrument pack, for example). The suspension bushes and bearings on mine seemed woefully underspecced, I think it was a very cynical PR exercise possibly done to test the water for a DS brand - and had they held it back, developed it more, it could have been a stunning DS relaunch halo model.

But in the showroom it looked stunning right until you sat in a C5 Exclusive with multi-adjustable seats, RT5 Navidrive etc. and realised the C6 would never be allowed to catch up because it was so short-run and unprofitable.

It was never intended to be competitive, to be better - it was there just to milk cash from CX/XM diehards and francophile heads of state. Whereas DS, CX and XM set out to do things differently in the belief they were doing it /better/, and were planned to sell in volume. This was PSA doing a JDM style Nissan Pike/Sera type car for fashion but without the dealer training or lifestyle common sense (the Pluriel does that aspect better IMO).

It is the perfect 21st century autoshite car because it is the 21st century Tagora - a clever and interesting design rendered into a bit of a compromised lemon by PSA's determination to not let the family firm be outgunned by a subsidiary.

I was never a huge fan of the older Citroens like the xm etc so I had no expectations based on those I just like the c6  as it’s an unusual and looks cool  . I like the 2nd c5 but in most applications it’s a conventional car like a Mondeo . They even made a thing of it being germanically styled.  The reason I have the c6 is the same reason I had an Avantime . The Avantime was fucking useless as a car but all the other weird and cool stuff makes them worth owning . 

[GeordieInExile]

The Avantime is definitely a car I would swap the C6 for...! Maybe next time we do work on the house and I need to do tip runs. The C6 is very definitely not a tip run car...

[EyesWeldedShut]

15 hours ago, cort16 said:

On the way to pick mine up one identical with a long mot. good history but a handbrake fault was up for £1500 bins. 

I mentioned this one someplace else on here recently - it has a 'slipping auto box' and I was musing if it was worth chucking a few hundred quid at it just for the fun* of owning/fixing/scrapping it - final bid was interestingly high(?) and it was not mine.
Beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that - I like them - that or an XM if I ever get around to seriously replacing the Ovlov

[cort16]

12 minutes ago, EyesWeldedShut said:

I mentioned this one someplace else on here recently - it has a 'slipping auto box' and I was musing if it was worth chucking a few hundred quid at it just for the fun* of owning/fixing/scrapping it - final bid was interestingly high(?) and it was not mine.
Beauty in the eye of the beholder and all that - I like them - that or an XM if I ever get around to seriously replacing the Ovlov

I think once they go so low price wise they become desirable as parts cars 

[cort16]

24 minutes ago, GeordieInExile said:

The Avantime is definitely a car I would swap the C6 for...! Maybe next time we do work on the house and I need to do tip runs. The C6 is very definitely not a tip run car...

The Avantime is a much more conventional car underneath and not too scary . The way they plonked the body on it makes for some very weird dynamics . The boot is a weird size and it’s hard to get in the back for a start 

[straightSix]

This one seems a snip at £19k 😂 warranty though so it might actually pay for itself...

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1620882

[EyesWeldedShut]

4 minutes ago, straightSix said:

This one seems a snip at £19k 😂 warranty though so it might actually pay for itself...

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1620882

Would you lend me £17,501 so that it's within the current 'car expenditure' budget heading please?

[cort16]

6 minutes ago, straightSix said:

This one seems a snip at £19k 😂 warranty though so it might actually pay for itself...

https://www.carandclassic.com/l/C1620882

That's nice but I think they're smoking crack at 19 grand.  There's a few out there above 5 grand that seem to have been for sale forever.