Vroooooom!!!!

[504GL]

Am I the only one that notices people revving their cars to shit when they start them? Seems to be a carry over from ye olde days with a carby car where you'd need to give it a bit of extra petrol when starting it for it to catch properly.56 reg Skoda Fabia. 1.4 low mileage, 1 lady owner, always redlined from cold

[retrogeezer]

Ed China does this on wheeler dealers, drives me mad!

[504GL]

Ed China does this on wheeler dealers, drives me mad!

At least when it's done on TV by someone in "the know" you can always kid yourself and think that they warmed it up properly first

[Akron]

I also really like the people who like to rev up to 3K rpm and keep slipping the clutch when reversing. My missus does this every morning and I am pissed off with always telling her, so I have given up and now she is moaning at having to spend out on a new clutch .

[504GL]

I also really like the people who like to rev up to 3K rpm and keep slipping the clutch when reversing. My missus does this every morning and I am pissed off with always telling her, so I have given up and now she is moaning at having to spend out on a new clutch .

My wife holds cars on the clutch on inclines. In her Subaru she can do what she like but I get pissed off in the 500 when she does it as it's our car The annoying thing is she's not an idiot, she knows how a clutch works etc etc but she still flipping does it. I've had g/f's who've not been mechanically minded and tried to help but invariably let them go on their way but my wife really should know better. My first girlfriend had the tyres on her car at about 15 psi and when I put them up to 30 she complained that the car was "yucky" to drive

[Hudsonpie]

I think people who are into cars tend to drive better, I've been able to drive since I could touch the pedals and have been in the motor trade, driven heavy plant, lorries, tractors, bangers etc.... pretty much all i've done is drive....I fucking hate getting into a car with somebody who is a shit driver...my missus used to put the clutch in when approaching bends, often when carrying a bit to much speed...a brief explanation of what an oncoming artic would do to her car, and some sliding about on a wet field soon put her right. Now she is a pretty good little driver, my FIL is another kettle of fish....he gets into fifth as soon as possible and leaves it there, often not changing down for an incline.....judder judder judder until it picks up....twat.Our little close where we live is a turn left only exit as there is nothing to the right, you would be surprised how many people get into second gear before they even pull off the paved area.....then stop to look right....THERE IS NOTHING THERE YOU FUCKING IDIOT....DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO GET T-BONED BY A BUSH....... On the other side of the coin I have a friend who thinks he is Sterling Moss and is flat out arse end out all the time.....I like walking.....

[504GL]

I think people who are into cars tend to drive better, I've been able to drive since I could touch the pedals and have been in the motor trade, driven heavy plant, lorries, tractors, bangers etc.... pretty much all i've done is drive....I fucking hate getting into a car with somebody who is a shit driver...my missus used to put the clutch in when approaching bends, often when carrying a bit to much speed...a brief explanation of what an oncoming artic would do to her car, and some sliding about on a wet field soon put her right. Now she is a pretty good little driver, my FIL is another kettle of fish....he gets into fifth as soon as possible and leaves it there, often not changing down for an incline.....judder judder judder until it picks up....twat.Our little close where we live is a turn left only exit as there is nothing to the right, you would be surprised how many people get into second gear before they even pull off the paved area.....then stop to look right....THERE IS NOTHING THERE YOU FUCKING IDIOT....DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO GET T-BONED BY A BUSH....... On the other side of the coin I have a friend who thinks he is Stirling Moss and is flat out arse end out all the time.....I like walking.....

Agree. I also think people who watch and genuinely understand motorsport make better drivers as well. There just seems to be more of an understanding of how cars handle and also the consequences of going off the road. My wife is a pretty good driver other than the whole clutch holding thing and also braking too much (IMHO) and then consequently having to accelerate more which is a waste of fuel, tyres and pads IMHO But I've never felt unsafe driving with her, not for one moment. The scariest time I ever spent in a car was with a guy who had one of these -> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dump-Valve-Simula ... 20adda8d18 on his car. He hit numerous kerbs, seemed to be wandering in his lane and to top it all I felt like I was a passenger in a kettle with that stupid whistle.....

[hammy]

I think people who are into cars tend to drive better,

Hhm, I'm not so sure - any search on YouTube brings up countless cars being started from cold and then revved like crazy to highlight comedy exhaust or V8 engine.

[Hudsonpie]

I meant people who are INTO cars and undestand them a bit, although you do have a point....I know a guy who is a BMW specialist hes a nice guy and knows his shit....but he will start up cars from cold and rev the shit out of them....I was up there one day and he was showing me a customers E21 Alpina that had been modified with a Mercedes supercharger and was lovely....he started it from cold and revved the kahoneys off it....I was stunned.....

[saabhappy]

Was it Castrol who did an ad showing how much metal-to-metal contact there was on start-up and how their oils was the best blah blah blah? Lots of people have no mechanical sympathy at all, and that includes dealers and manufacturers who tell you there's no need to let an engine bed in. I'm sure they're right, but it doesn't FEEL right.

[Polystratus]

Was it Castrol who did an ad showing how much metal-to-metal contact there was on start-up and how their oils was the best blah blah blah? Lots of people have no mechanical sympathy at all, and that includes dealers and manufacturers who tell you there's no need to let an engine bed in. I'm sure they're right, but it doesn't FEEL right.

When it comes to threads in motoring forums on best way to run in new cars, then you'll get some know all who says thrash it from the start, its not only the engine that has to bed in but the tyres and brakes too. I've always ran in new engines carefully, never had any major problems later also never yet red lined a engine. Same people who rag their engines always complain about never getting more than 25 mpg or having a engine rebuild after 10,000 miles.

[Milford Cubicle]

Our little close where we live is a turn left only exit as there is nothing to the right, you would be surprised how many people get into second gear before they even pull off the paved area.....then stop to look right....THERE IS NOTHING THERE YOU FUCKING IDIOT....DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO GET T-BONED BY A BUSH.......

One that annoys me is people who stop at roundabouts even when there's nothing coming their direction. I used to do that, but my dad constantly told me 'a roundabout isn't a junction' and it soon sunk in.

[pandamonium]

I'm quite a 'lively' driver, but if I buy a car (especially as I tend to go for giffer-spec low mileage ones), I try to build up to 'my style' of driving gently, maybe a few weeks before I really open it up. By doing this you 'educate' the engine to drive with you rather than you driving it.(I hope that makes sense)

[pogweasel]

Am I the only one that notices people revving their cars to shit when they start them?

Mrs_Pog does this, which makes me angry and leaves a sooty cloud that engulfs the town for several hours. Grr!

[whitevanman]

Our little close where we live is a turn left only exit as there is nothing to the right, you would be surprised how many people get into second gear before they even pull off the paved area.....then stop to look right....THERE IS NOTHING THERE YOU FUCKING IDIOT....DO YOU THINK YOU ARE GOING TO GET T-BONED BY A BUSH.......

One that annoys me is people who stop at roundabouts even when there's nothing coming their direction. I used to do that, but my dad constantly told me 'a roundabout isn't a junction' and it soon sunk in.

ERRR it is...........thats why it has give way markings, Highway code says it should be treated as a multiple junction

[Milford Cubicle]

Screw the Highway Code.

[504GL]

Was it Castrol who did an ad showing how much metal-to-metal contact there was on start-up and how their oils was the best blah blah blah? Lots of people have no mechanical sympathy at all, and that includes dealers and manufacturers who tell you there's no need to let an engine bed in. I'm sure they're right, but it doesn't FEEL right.

My opinion is that you need to run a car in when new but not quite as much as you used to. My understanding is also that it's best to vary the revs when you're running the car in as well. We were due to go down to London the week after we get our 500 in July but waited till it had a bit more mileage on it till we went down.

[r.welfare]

Personally I don't take my 405 above 2000rpm until the thermostat has opened. Agreed on the running-in thing, it feels odd - my (only) company car (a Saab, funnily enough) didn't have an oil change until 19,000 miles after it was delivered. Bet what came out of the sump looked nice!

[Albert Ross]

Yup, Castrol Magnatec, thing is, they used an Audi, which at the time was bonging on about it's all aluminium construction........... obviously not that magnetic then......

[j-j]

Hmm, I'm screwed then because starting the LPG CX up from cold requires the foot to the floor or it will not catch - I always release it as soon as it does but the revs definitely spike to over 1500 a milisecond after it catches...Actually, what about starting an old shite heap on the choke? surely being on choke when it's cold has the revs up?

[Mr Lobster]

Sadly, very few people have any mechanical sympathy or understanding so happily redline engines from cold. Drivers with much understanding of how their car actually works seem to becoming fewer and fewer.

[dollywobbler]

The Renault bursts into life with revs - it's fuel injected so I don't touch the throttle.The 2CV probably revs at about 1500 on choke. I never thrash a cold engine but a warm engine (and I mean oil warm, not coolant warm) is a different matter!

[Mash]

It's funny about new cars these days and running in. I saw a few 10 registrations blasting down the motorway last week and I've had brand new hire cars recently where I've just got in and gone off whereever at motorway speeds. There must be some degree of running in required even these days, surely?I don;t hang about when it's appropriate but I'm always mindful of warming a car up from cold when I first set off in a morning. I tend to drive hire cars as I would if they were my own too which a lot of people don't of course.

[dollywobbler]

I think modern engines are run in at the factory on rigs, so they're not exactly freshly built by the time they make it to your door. After all, if you tried running in an engine on the modern synthetic oils that modern cars have, you'd find that it would never run in at all! I know of a few older engines that have been ruined because of this. Old engines like mineral - stick with the cheap stuff!

[504GL]

Hmm, I'm screwed then because starting the LPG CX up from cold requires the foot to the floor or it will not catch - I always release it as soon as it does but the revs definitely spike to over 1500 a milisecond after it catches...Actually, what about starting an old shite heap on the choke? surely being on choke when it's cold has the revs up?

I don't think 1500rpm is going to do any harm tbh. The people I hear starting their cars up are revving them to at least 4 or 5k. Tbh when I get into my car in the morning I get in, turn the key, do my seatbelt up and go.

[Tayne]

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[pogweasel]

I watched a Sherpa Convertible RV8 do that the other day at the black cat. Unfortunately [?] the builder's van behind did not employ the same strategy, leading to the inevitable puddle of broken glass on the road and two slightly rumpled vehicles.

[Lankytim]

J-J, If your CX is anything like my LPG Audi youll have to crank it over for about 10 seconds before the engine starts on LPG. This means that atleast the oil pressure is up when the engine fires.

[M'coli]

I tend not to rev the Cavalier until the oil light goes out, then it gets revved to about 1500-2000 rpm until the autochoke comes on (it takes a couple of seconds). My mate got in it when we were in the Highlands and revved it straight off - not that he'd taken any notice of how I start it up for the previous week - and said, "How long does it take for the oil light to go out?" He'd only blown the oil filter off...Now I remember reading something about why the engine runs at fast idle on the choke regarding oil film shear strength, but it could also be related to having enough gas speed to prevent petrol falling out of the airstream and pooling in the manifold.

[barrett]

Now I remember reading something about why the engine runs at fast idle on the choke regarding oil film shear strength, but it could also be related to having enough gas speed to prevent petrol falling out of the airstream and pooling in the manifold.

I'm sorry, what language are you speaking?