1966 Plymouth Fury 3

[hairnet]

https://www.andysautosport.com/floor_pans/plymouth_fury.html

[PhilA]

1 hour ago, hairnet said:

https://www.andysautosport.com/floor_pans/plymouth_fury.html

http://www.autometaldirect.com/1966-Plymouth-Belvedere-body-components-floor-floor-pans-md-63-c-23_135_153.html

Andys are 60-65 panels

[PhilA]

This engine was "professionally rebuilt".

Look at that and tell me what's wrong.

 

On the plus side, it does turn over freely. It's not rusted up. So, apart it comes to check their work.

[Asimo]

Handed rockers: some are LT - left, some are RT - right.

[PhilA]

3 minutes ago, Asimo said:

Handed rockers: some are LT - left, some are RT - right.

Bingo!

If that's wrong, what else is?

[PhilA]

6 minutes ago, Asimo said:

Handed rockers: some are LT - left, some are RT - right.

Makes me wonder- are Chevy rockers handed?

[PhilA]

4 hours ago, PhilA said:

Makes me wonder- are Chevy rockers handed?

...not they are not.

 

So, that's the why. He's only ever rebuilt Chevy engines, this guy.

[Asimo]

Mebe guys like that “professional” were why Ford made many cylinder heads left / right interchangeable.

[PhilA]

11 minutes ago, Asimo said:

Mebe guys like that “professional” were why Ford made many cylinder heads left / right interchangeable.

Or because Ford is like that, they assume all other manufacturers are.

[Noel Tidybeard]

42 minutes ago, Asimo said:

Mebe guys like that “professional” were why Ford made many cylinder heads left / right interchangeable.

ford being cheapskates more like

[Bren]

There's a lot to be said for labelling and storing everything correctly.

[PhilA]

2 hours ago, Bren said:

There's a lot to be said for labelling and storing everything correctly.

Oh, so true. 

 

Ziploc bags are not expensive.

[horriblemercedes]

On 4/16/2021 at 9:13 PM, Jim Bell said:

"Paint don't make it great. Speed is all you need."

- sheriff john bunnell. 1969. 

 

"I challenge anyone to put in more runs than me!" 

- Brian Lara, 1994

[PhilA]

I went digging in boxes and found more things.

Bingo, the carburetor that goes with the intake manifold on the engine. Nice. Needs a clean, it's full of spiders and crap.

That's money I didn't have to spend to get it running.

No idea why the choke is missing though.

[PhilA]

I was curious, so I took to the top of the wing with some shine maker.

Nope, the paint was lain on so badly it looks like a bowling ball.

 

Phil

[PhilA]

I got a little antsy this afternoon so got busy with the engine crane.

 

Well, we have +0.040" pistons- from something 32v and hemi. No clue there.

One pot is a bit mediocre. That's been machined, too. Something's stuck in the rings, it's scoring the bore.

Wedge heads. Apparently these are halfway decent. One valve is stuck open and they're all a bit rusty. I think it was stored with the plugs out for a long while.

Finally, the gearbox, "redone". That doesn't say redone to me...

 

Phil

[PhilA]

I lifted one bank of pistons out.

Remember how I said I was concerned they'd put a rod in backwards?

They did. 

#7 and #8 pistons were transposed. 

Also, lots of fod. You can see the little twinkly bit above the top ring. 

Going to pull the rings off and clean them, check the gaps and reassemble.

 

Phil

[STUNO]

Tidy up the engine and reassemble, do the gearbox seals, then drive it. That engine will last for years even if it isn't perfect. Gears '(auto???) will not leak and if they are ok should last too !

Unless you want perfection .

[PhilA]

2 hours ago, STUNO said:

Tidy up the engine and reassemble, do the gearbox seals, then drive it. That engine will last for years even if it isn't perfect. Gears '(auto???) will not leak and if they are ok should last too !

Unless you want perfection .

Yeah, for now that's what I'm looking to do.

Plan right now is to throw this back together, clean the carb, chuck some oil in it and see if it'll start on the floor.

[Madman Of The People]

So I assume the Pontiac restoration is officially finished, and this is the new project?  Looks like you have your work cut out for you!

BTW, do you still have the Renault?  I'd love to see that restored to it's former glory.

 

[PhilA]

19 minutes ago, Madman Of The People said:

So I assume the Pontiac restoration is officially finished, and this is the new project?  Looks like you have your work cut out for you!

BTW, do you still have the Renault?  I'd love to see that restored to it's former glory.

 

No, the Pontiac has reached "good enough to drive and do things occasionally to", and while it still needs work it's not a case it needs to be in pieces every weekend.

I still have the Renault, it's parked around the back of the garage. It would be nice to see done but I have someone interested in buying it so for now it's just sitting resting (under cover, even!)

 

Phil

[hairnet]

15 hours ago, PhilA said:

And see if it'll start on the floor.

Man has form.......

Won't be a problem y'all

[PhilA]

I found my calipers, put a new battery in and checked the big ends on the crank.

All a uniform (thrust and slack faces) 2.125"-2.129".

Wow.

So the crank is good on that, I didn't feel like fighting the main bolts tonight, l will pull those and check the mains too (and bearing fitment) another day.

Going to try to to the DMV and get the title put in my name tomorrow.

Phil

[PhilA]

I also need an "I'm A Lone Wolf 6000".

Shall try pick one up this week.

 

(Bring the thunder).

[jonathan_dyane]

All sounds remarkably redeemable! I look forward to seeing it run

[PhilA]

Rings! It's a three ring circus! 

Carefully assembled the rings should be in this order, this way up. 

Not all of them were. I'll get that lot cleaned up and reassembled, ready to go in.

Phil

[PhilA]

Cleaned up a couple pistons in the ultrasonic bath. Cleaned the rings up, checked them for gap and they're well outside limits. This engine was 40 thou' over BEFORE they honed the shit out of it, so a couple pots are like rattling a stick in a trash can.

You can see how loose they are. Oh well. Piston slap it is! At least it won't have rod knock.

Rods are the right way round now.

Finally, why RTV a piece of scrap metal into a rusted out core plug? They're cheap enough to replace.

 

Phil

[Asimo]

What a bodger! Why the phrase “rebuilt” in any advert turns me off.

Any clue as to what the (4 valve) pistons are from?

[PhilA]

4 hours ago, Asimo said:

What a bodger! Why the phrase “rebuilt” in any advert turns me off.

Any clue as to what the (4 valve) pistons are from?

Turns out they are not- on this engine the wrist pin is offset slightly to one side, so in order for the pistons to be able to be turned round for each bank, they just put the recesses in both sides.

Economy. 

 

Phil

[tooSavvy]

On 27/04/2021 at 03:58, PhilA said:

I also need an "I'm A Lone Wolf 6000".

Shall try pick one up this week.

 

(Bring the thunder).

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