Gettin' skiddy with it...

[dollywobbler]

Howdy folksDoes anyone know anyone who does skid pan training in a proper old rear-wheel drive motor? I remember reading years ago about a firm that used Volvo 340s on bald tyres. Having driven FWD for most of my life and after wifey's unfortunate Minor disaster, I'm keen to check out some proper skid action - but not in a modern car on a cradle.

[AnthonyG]

Howdy folksDoes anyone know anyone who does skid pan training in a proper old rear-wheel drive motor? I remember reading years ago about a firm that used Volvo 340s on bald tyres. Having driven FWD for most of my life and after wifey's unfortunate Minor disaster, I'm keen to check out some proper skid action - but not in a modern car on a cradle.

The Mercedes place in Brooklands uses RWD cars, although obv they are modern Mercs. Only know because of the excellent James May prog last night. Did notice the Triumph 2000, didn't know it was his.

[M'coli]

Let some air out of the Bond's rear tyres and go to a wet car park. I know the wet bit may be difficult to find in Cambridgeshire, but persevere!

[mnde]

How about Goodwood:

 

http://www.skidcontrol.co.uk/index2.htm

 

Looks like you get old Sierras to skid about in

 

 

Mark.

 

EDIT: check out the archive pictures!

 

http://www.skidcontrol.co.uk/archive.htm

[Volksy]

There's a place near Wetherby at Tockwith Aerodrome who do it. I did my PSV training there, IIRC they use 340's, Sierras, and BMW's on a proper old style skid pan of water and oil.Tockwith Motor Sports CentreMarston Moor Business Park, Tockwith, York, YO26 7QF* Tel:01423 359442

[Milford Cubicle]

Let some air out of the Bond's rear tyres

You'd want less surface area on the tyre, not more!

[dollywobbler]

Thanks folks! Plenty to be looking at there. The Bond is quite tail happy so I could always put 50psi in the rear tyres, but car park owners get upset with you skidding around...

[M'coli]

Let some air out of the Bond's rear tyres

You'd want less surface area on the tyre, not more!

Below 15psi the tyre rolls onto the sidewall, losing mucho grip in the process - found this out on various cars. Perhaps the Bond, with its rear swing axles, isn't the best thing to do this with, as as soon as you lift off, it'll make it worse!

[nigel bickle]

Goodwood do -with old Beemers,but it was absolute toss.Part of wifey's birthday pressie, to teach her skid control etc. Wasn't cheap-but assured 'excellent tutorage'.Turned out to be one pimply youth, who drove the (2) of them once round the 'circuit' (a tiny figure of then just buggered off. Re-appeared at the end of the 3 hours -just to lockup.A total,absolute waste of money.

[Milford Cubicle]

Doesn't the sidewall absorb the slide? I dunno, I've only owned 1 RWD car...

[r.welfare]

Thruxton had old Sierras and a 340 - but this was in 1995, so may (or may not!) have changed. Could be worth a Google.

[Pete-M]

RWD is easy peasy. Steer into the skid and apply or reduce throttle depending on how long you want to go sideways for. More often than not if you lift off the gas and let the steering do its own thing it'll go back straight anyway - the only bit you need to do is point the thing in the right direction when the arse end steps out and be ready to correct if it does the old 'pendulum' trick.Honestly, it's an absolute piece of piss.

[dollywobbler]

Low tyre pressures can induce a skid - once had lift-off oversteer in a Peugeot 305 van! And a 2CV come to think of it. But yes, swing axles not ideal for skiddiness as the car just falls over.

[Spiny Norman]

Wait for an icy cold night then head for your nearest deserted car park!

[AnthonyG]

How about Goodwood:

 

http://www.skidcontrol.co.uk/index2.htm

 

Looks like you get old Sierras to skid about in

 

 

Mark.

 

EDIT: check out the archive pictures!

 

http://www.skidcontrol.co.uk/archive.htm

Even the website is shite! class!

 

Seriously it looks like the cars are sourced from a breakers. I imagine it would actually be crap, as Nigel points out above.

[Mike D]

When i was at Manby last year having Ratdat take some arty pictures of my Datsun, they were skid panning in an old Merc 190...