eBay tat volume 3.

[Junkman]

My head tells me that I am a fucking idiot, it would ruin me and that my family would disembowel me.

 

EFA

 

Do it!

[lesapandre]

Single digit fuel consumption....

[Junkman]

Armstrong Siddeley Assembly Kit.

 

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1065852

 

 

was stripped down to the bear chassis

 

 

 

 

and build up to current position.

 

Yep, and then they couldn't figure out how to hang the doors properly, as usual.

The process is explained at length in Robert Penn Bradley's book, but people who can't distinguish between 'bare' and 'bear' reading books is unlikely, which of course doesn't mean they can't put the most deluded price tags onto something.

 

And yes, I'm fully aware of the meaninglessness of my dismal shitty little life, which is wasted on reading books explaining how to hang doors on an Armstrong Siddeley Sapphire, instead of putting the most deluded price tag onto something and wait for the one deranged dinglebrain to stop by.

[Junkman]

Single digit fuel consumption....

 

 

What a selfish outlook.

We all have to make sacrifices to improve® The Climate.

[Junkman]

Sadly just lots of blah, little about the car itself (such as whether it's running or not, for example) and a few shit photos.

 

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1046683

 

Interestingly it's LHD. I might rather drive away with the '64 Olds, however.

[Junkman]

To put all this into perspective, this one sold for £4,664.00 in 2015 and the prices for 50s saloons have plummeted since then.
 
https://www.classiccarauctions.co.uk/1956-armstrong-siddeley-sapphire-346
 

[Kringle]

Is that due to the demographic changing? So in 30 years time mk1 escorts will be worth fuck all?

[Junkman]

Is that due to the demographic changing?

 

I don't know what the reason is, but the bottom has dropped out of the 50s saloon car market globally.

Posh British immediate postwar saloons (with the exception of those wearing certain badges) were never held in high esteem by mainstream collectors to begin with, despite they are rare and arguably the best engineered cars of all time. Look at those fantastic 50s Lagonda saloons, for example. All you can find today are carcasses, engine raped to blow yet another one up with a DB2 at Goodwood.

 

Looking at the septic offerings, for decades I was mislead in believing the late 50s chod is the pinnacle, but the more I look at cars like PhilA's Pontiac, the more I realise just how well that late 40s/early 50s tat was made. And this is despite I fully well knew all along that by the mid 50s they had changed from making the best cars they could (naturally within certain constraints), to purely producing planned obsolescence to boost consumerism, with all the inherent lack of actual quality, workmanship and practicability. Look at Cuba, where the curtain fell in 1960. It's not the newest models they had that survived in the biggest numbers.

 

 

 

So in 30 years time mk1 escorts will be worth fuck all?

 

They basically are worth fuck all. Only certain inhabitants of one tiny island believe they are less shit today than they were when new, a baffling misconception. Having said that, baby boom saloons have performed admirably in the European - this does include the UK - classic car market over the past decade. Let's see what the 90s rubbish will do once it's benefitting from historic status on the paperwork in most countries. The attrition rate is currently accelerating at a mindboggling pace.

[mercrocker]

Also if a guppy faced Scorpio is £7K it makes much more sense to buy a Daimler Majestic Major.   Even if the bottom drops out of that market, along with the floors....

[Junkman]

It makes more sense to buy a Daimler Majestic Major no matter what placebo reasons you frantically try to come up with not to do so.

Admit it.

[Junkman]

However, I do like guppy faced Scorpios.

This Aubergine example will be auctioned in the February Morris Leslie at Errol Airfield and carries an IMO very realistic 2k estimate.

 

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1062840

[Junkman]

Should you prefer your Scorpios in the earlier shape, much shonkier and OMGSNOWKAOZ compliant, look no further.

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Ford-Granada-Scorpio-2-8-4x4-/323617571807

 

 

The car is shown on steel wheels but the original 7 spoke wheels are in the car.

 

I bet they were carelessly thrown onto the unprotected carpet and/or velour, as usual.

 

Oh. I won that bet.

 

[Lacquer Peel]

However, I do like guppy faced Scorpios.

This Aubergine example will be auctioned in the February Morris Leslie at Errol Airfield and carries an IMO very realistic 2k estimate.

 

https://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C1062840

Needs. More. Cylinder. Heads.

 

[lesapandre]

What a selfish outlook.

We all have to make sacrifices to improve® The Climate.

Whenever I fill up I see the face of some Chancellor and remember how much the gov is taking. Thats why I prefer dizzles running on cooking oil.

 

But yea - if we use up all the petrol quickly carbon emissions will stop early innit.

 

We put fossil bones in museums but fossil fuel in our tanks...

[lesapandre]

 

I don't know what the reason is, but the bottom has dropped out of the 50s saloon car market globally.

Posh British immediate postwar saloons (with the exception of those wearing certain badges) were never held in high esteem by mainstream collectors to begin with, despite they are rare and arguably the best engineered cars of all time. Look at those fantastic 50s Lagonda saloons, for example. All you can find today are carcasses, engine raped to blow yet another one up with a DB2 at Goodwood.

 

Looking at the septic offerings, for decades I was mislead in believing the late 50s chod is the pinnacle, but the more I look at cars like PhilA's Pontiac, the more I realise just how well that late 40s/early 50s tat was made. And this is despite I fully well knew all along that by the mid 50s they had changed from making the best cars they could (naturally within certain constraints), to purely producing planned obsolescence to boost consumerism, with all the inherent lack of actual quality, workmanship and practicability. Look at Cuba, where the curtain fell in 1960. It's not the newest models they had that survived in the biggest numbers.

 

 

 

 

They basically are worth fuck all. Only certain inhabitants of one tiny island believe they are less shit today than they were when new, a baffling misconception. Having said that, baby boom saloons have performed admirably in the European - this does include the UK - classic car market over the past decade. Let's see what the 90s rubbish will do once it's benefitting from historic status on the paperwork in most countries. The attrition rate is currently accelerating at a mindboggling pace.

With the 50's saloons is it down to how some of the drive - some are just not much fun? 

 

Agree on values - in the doldrums. 

 

If you have any Christmas money to squander I thoroughly recommend this:

 

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Roads-Oblivion-Triumphs-Tragedies-British/dp/1870979826

 

I had several Austin Westminsters of the late 50's. The 105...not much fun really - under-braked and strange huge steering wheel. I am sure some love them.

[Frogchod]

50 qiud 2cv

 

https://www.facebook.com/marketplace/item/219385612283939/

[Tadhg Tiogar]

Slightly leggy 635CSI, but price isn’t too insane for a tidy one these days.

9F09B247-B761-4219-8038-1B1955DAB4B7.jpeghttps://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-BMW-635-CSI-AUTO/153287115482

(200k, £5.5k, MOT until May, to spare you the ALL CAPS AND NO PUNCTUATION M8 SO DONT ASK FOR ANY experience that is the listing.)

I stumbled upon it while looking for sensibly priced Granadas, pre that gopping bug eyed Scorpio excretion. That search is proving elusive. Found one for £13k, which made this 6er look particularly bargainous.

200k is nicely run-in. Mine was on 205k or so when I sold it. 250k is supposedly "thinking about a rebuild" territory. 130k is "change yer cracked head casting" time.

[Cavcraft]

Sometimes it's probably best not to ask

 

 

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LEYLAND-DAF-RECOVERY-TRUCK-LORRY-TILT-SLIDE-BED-SPEC-LIFT-HYRAULIC-WINCH-SPARES/372549067539?hash=item56bda7a313:g:vs0AAOSw61dbtzyG:rk:7:pf:0

 

I'd love a really early one of these with that cab window at the bottom.

[Cavcraft]

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

'Iveco engine'

 

 

Paul Norris

 

Facebook Motors local cars and vans for sale Atherton Leigh Wigan Tyldesley

[lesapandre]

How much please? I deleted fb recently. Thanks

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Slightly leggy 635CSI, but price isn’t too insane for a tidy one these days.

 

9F09B247-B761-4219-8038-1B1955DAB4B7.jpeg

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1989-BMW-635-CSI-AUTO/153287115482

 

(200k, £5.5k, MOT until May, to spare you the ALL CAPS AND NO PUNCTUATION M8 SO DONT ASK FOR ANY experience that is the listing.)

 

I stumbled upon it while looking for sensibly priced Granadas, pre that gopping bug eyed Scorpio excretion. That search is proving elusive. Found one for £13k, which made this 6er look particularly bargainous.

 

 

 

Something's iffy about that - a clean up and running Highline is worth rather more than 5.5 bags.

 

Well, not to me as I bought better ones back in the day for a couple of grand and I don't like paying for the same real estate twice.

 

Mark 3-4 Granadas and Scorpions are worth £800 max. That's what I bought one for in 1994 and they haven't got any better since.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Fuck me, look at this Punch and Judy theatre on wheels!

 

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2003-BMW-E46-325-Ti-M-Sport-Drift-Car-Wide-Arch-Track-Car-Modified-Road-Legal/392185089582

 

 

It's anything but obvious for me, but I blame thinking processes along these lines:

 

 

 

Only if the inside of your head is such a mess, you car can look like this terrible disaster does and the reasons for a dashboard to be lit up like a Christmas tree become obvious.

 

 

 

The owner will be an appalling dickhead. 23, still living at home, probably called Jake or Jack, cheap sportswear, ear hoops and probably into drifting blud.

 

The number of nice E36's destroyed by these goons is heartbreaking. 

[New POD]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2004-Vauxhall-Monaro-Factory-Musclecar-Hotrod/113484829260

I think i should like to own this.

 

Problem ? Justification of spending so much.

[jumpingjehovahs]

£1495, or best offer, with 12 months MOT. Dangerously close to France, but otherwise looks a great buy to me.

 

 

https://rover.ebay.com/rover/0/0/0?mpre=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.co.uk%2Fulk%2Fitm%2F153312255591

 

 

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[Cavcraft]

How much please? I deleted fb recently. Thanks

 

£895, I think. He says it's 5 tonnes so will need down grading to 3.5 if you want to drive on normal car licence.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

A 3.5 litre with merely 230 PS sounds temptingly lazy to me. I assume it has a button to make the suspension all soft and squishy?

But what the fuck is a "Semi-Auto"? Does this mean I have to do something myself?

 

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/201812203403559

 

 

Sadly the interior is not fit for seating in it:

 

 

 

Steptronic mate. Either be a Gentleman and leave it in D and let the 'box do the work, or put it into S and nudge the lever forward and back yourself to manual shift.

 

No, me neither.

 

The £5500 Shadow II should be a barometer to big old saloon values. They don't drive like an XJ12 or a 450SEL 6.9 but they are a lovely old thing. The engine is a masterpiece and they were beautifully put together. A pity nobody ever treated them with the care they deserved. 

 

All this old hatchback Granada scrap can FRO. Buy the car you deserve, not some sweaty armpit middle management M4 corridor horror show.

[Junkman]

My biggest fear (after Lincolnshire) is me buying one of those Royces just to find out that they are only glorified Mercedeses.

Are they really a thing, or are they not?

[Junkman]

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Humber-Sceptre/323624480712

 

 

restoration project

 

Ah shut up. Stupid git.

[mercrocker]

My biggest fear (after Lincolnshire) is me buying one of those Royces just to find out that they are only glorified Mercedeses.

Are they really a thing, or are they not?

 

A couple of mates have owned them.....Glorified Mercedes might be a favourable comparison.   Think more a neglected, British-built (non-Slough) Citroen with P6 brakes and lots of leather.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

The feeling of well being when whooshing along at 70 in a Rolls can only be bought for £5500. They're a bit of a wallowing old barge - they drive like a good Septic. Citreon style hydro suspension etc. They demand to be used every day as befits a proper car.

 

When lower order stuff like Rover P6's and Triumph 2500's are apparently worth 6 grand (They're not. But idiots pay that) it's bizarre that useable Shadows and Series 3 XJ's are worth the same. Apparently because Rover/Triumph buyers are too shit scared 'because they cost too much to fix'.

 

Well, 'twas ever thus. Those with balls and/or funds only.