Talbot Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 the whole sill moves if you pull it. Then the MOT man is doing it rong. The wording in the MOT test manual is that it should be a fail if an area crumbles under firm thumb pressure. It's amazing just how rusty something can be and it still technically be a pass. He may well be right, that the welding is shit and there's galloping rot behind them, but if it doesn't actually crumble away, it's a pass. That said, Heave the battery out, and any other bits that might sell well or be useful (I always pull out all the heavier copper cables under the bonnet.. £4.50 a kilo ramps up remarkably quickly, and it's very easy to get £100 worth of copper these days) What type of rear axle does it have? I could do with one for a trailer project and if this is a really basic one being as narrow as it is might be ideal. You're not even that far from me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 You’ll need to burn the sheathing off to get best price for copper. The scrapyard usually insists on a battery of some sort being included plus the cat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandamonium Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 As for axles / crossmembers being available, I'm afraid not, as scrap man will want it complete and rolling, sorry. Talbot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talbot Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 You’ll need to burn the sheathing off to get best price for copper. They won't generally allow burned copper these days for the best price, it has to be "dry bright wire" so I invested in a stripping tool a while back which can cope with anything from Telephone/networking cable (pointless) up to about 25mm2 stuff. Tool cost £15 off the bay of snot. I've weighed in about £250 of copper it has stripped so far. Very worthwhile. If it's a car with the battery in the boot/under the back seat, the cable from the battery up to the starter motor alone can be worth £15-£20. Dirk Diggler and Tamworthbay 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rusty_Rocket Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Then the MOT man is doing it rong. The wording in the MOT test manual is that it should be a fail if an area crumbles under firm thumb pressure. It's amazing just how rusty something can be and it still technically be a pass. He may well be right, that the welding is shit and there's galloping rot behind them, but if it doesn't actually crumble away, it's a pass. My thoughts too. My MoT man wouldn't go pushing/ pulling though, he'd gently apply finger pressure and say 'don't touch that bit!' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stephen01 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Yeah, it's difficult to see, but they have just been welded over rot, so are rotten behind all that and the whole sill moves if you pull it. guy that did the sills on my escort van years back just welded the new panels over the whole lot, looked cracking when I painted them with white paint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Sounds like it just needs to get gently placed in a nearby baler then sent off for a new life in a Chinese foundry alcyonecorporation 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandamonium Posted October 3, 2018 Author Share Posted October 3, 2018 It's gone. 100 quid in my pocket and lessons learned. A car is free for a reason.Modern cars rust as quickly as older ones. Craig the Princess 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Rebel Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Ahhh poor little thing has gone over the rainbow bridge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Rebel Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Modern cars rust as quickly as older ones. Some quicker - in some cases we seem to have gone backwards from where we were. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsuncog Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 You did all you could, dude. Fair play for giving it a chance; I've a sneaking admiration for these little inverted bathtubs, but I'd sooner live vicariously through DW's than own one myself...In the meantime... Seems somehow appropriate for such a happy-looking little thing to get a suitable commemoration. BorniteIdentity, jumpingjehovahs, Lacquer Peel and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_Bo11ox Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Thoughts n' prayers oldcars and GrumpiusMaximus 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthbay Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 guy that did the sills on my escort van years back just welded the new panels over the whole lot, looked cracking when I painted them with white paint. For minis you could get special panels called oversells precisely to do that, problem is that the galloping rot continues hidden and a couple of years later it’s far far worse and goes from a simole job to a real ballache. I bet thousands of minis were scrapped due to them over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sierraman Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 But a few that winged through another MOT or two more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bren Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Those sills look like they were made of coal. You should have tried lighting them. RIP little daewoo. BorniteIdentity and oldcars 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandamonium Posted October 4, 2018 Author Share Posted October 4, 2018 I would definitely own another. And on that bombshell.... Datsuncog and oldcars 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMC Rebel Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Go to be wiv the angles (anglias) Datsuncog 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dieselassist Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Over here for both the CVRT and NCT, any 'structural welding', has to be done by a certed/qualified welder, Engineering firm or 'coach builders' they stuipulate, on a 'fail of vehicle's structure' or chassis', and the hand the customer a three page form with two pages to be filled in by the certed/qualified welder, Engineering firm or 'coachbuilders', describing the work undertaken and photos are also 'of great assistance when assessing the work undertaken' the say ... The NCT centres slap diagonal 'DANGEROUS UNROADWORTHY!!' stickers acroos the windscreen n side windows with, presumably' as strong an adhesive, as they use to stick those underbelly tiles onto NASA's shuttle... ..anyways on their demands for name and address and accredition of the person/firm welding and a literary description of work undertaken and 'maybe photos too', a lotta folk thinks its just a ruse to discourage 'JIM-BOB 90AMP ALDI GASSLESS MIG JOYSTICK'ER' or weed out small backstreet owner operator welders who does it on the 'Black' and the tax man looses a 'slice'... I pose this aul Matiz is a case to reaffirm that approach, however 'nanny state' it seems... Datsuncog and Dirk Diggler 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandamonium Posted October 5, 2018 Author Share Posted October 5, 2018 For anyone interested... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HH-R Posted October 5, 2018 Share Posted October 5, 2018 SCRAP I...oh. 4eva in are harts barefoot 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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