Kia Magictits V6 (CLEANY UPDATE W/PICS 22/05)

[fatharris]

No time for that today, I was a man on a mission. At 4pm, I had the afternoon free, and I was going to put it to good use.

 

 

I opened the door to my collection of cleaned bits and piled them on the lawn.

 

 

Luckily, I wrote down the order of what I took off, so it was just a matter of going from the bottom upwards. OO-ER.

 

 

Even arranged and labelled the bolts, including the spanner/socket size. This was going to be a breeze.

 

 

First up, the ISOFIX fittings and rear seatbelt buckles.

 

 

Then the remaining headlining components got fitted.

 

 

At this point, I neglected to take photos, so have pictures of me knocking through my to-do list.

 

Going...

 

 

Going...

 

 

...gone!

 

 

Next up, getting the bugger started again, as the battery was flat as a witches tit and drawing too much current for my charger (kept tripping out). My tactic of using a spare battery to jump it proved fruitless as the batteries I had lovingly kept were also shagged.

 

Luckily, the Rover prevailed, and after five minutes of sucking on electricity, he finally fired up. Jumped straight into a misfire though, naturally.

 

I really need to get rid of those old doors. Wonder if they're worth anything in scrap value.

 

 

These were the O2 sensor values whilst the car was idling after I reset the EML and the car was firing on all cylinders. I am not spammed up on these systems, are these readings all right?

 

 

 

Finally, I used my phone for some snaps of the now-fitted interior. It's still a bit hairy in places but it smells infinitely better.

 

 

 

 

 

Next plan is to tax and insure it from the 1st, use it for a bit and drop it to TwoSmoke to work his magic.

 

Thanks for reading!

 

[Guest Hooli]

My word that's impressively clean

[xtriple]

That looks awesome! Utterly fantastic work, I shall sell all my cars to you in future and then buy them back once cleaned I do hope you get the misfire sorted because it is bloody annoying and the thing flies when it is running well with a real kicj at about 3500 rpm. Worth doing, I just wish I had instead of wasting copious quantities of dosh on the other fucking heap!

 

Enjoy

[Parky]

That's some impressive work right there!  I wonder how many other folk would literally strip their cars interior to clean it properly?

[Jim Bell]

Thats some grade one organisational skills on the interior man. Top work. It took me, johnk, google and youtube just to find the fucking battery on a Picasso last night.

 

Spoiler: its under the floor under the passenger seat.

[fatharris]

A smol update.

 

I taxed and insured the Kia to get it moving again as it hasn't turned a wheel in anger since I got it.

 

 

The first drive out was terrible - down on power, misfiring and stodgy, unresponsive brakes.

 

Subsequent drives proved a lot better though - the brakes sharpened up nicely, as I set off straight away, the misfire only kicked in once, and the power delivery was crisp and smooth.

 

Unfortunately, when the misfire came back, I scanned codes and the pending codes showed a misfire code had been posted for each individual cylinder. So something that links them is clearly playing up. Does only seem to be evident only when the engine is warming up.

 

Ah well, it's off to TwoSmoke on the 12th for further investigation - I genuinely hope it isn't too expensive to fix, as I may* have already got plans afoot to pick up a new car soon, which means the Kia will definitely be going up for sale soon.

 

Interior smells grand though.

[Parky]

That’s a bit of a shame - didn’t you flatten the battery when you were cleaning it up? Could it be some slight lack of voltage triggering the misbehaviour that a longer run might cure?

[purplebargeken]

Bloody ace looking car.

[Wingz123]

That's some impressive work right there! I wonder how many other folk would literally strip their cars interior to clean it properly?

Head over to detailingworld.... many many threads under the showroom and restoration section

[fatharris]

That’s a bit of a shame - didn’t you flatten the battery when you were cleaning it up? Could it be some slight lack of voltage triggering the misbehaviour that a longer run might cure?

It was still misfiring after the 150 mile journey back home so I don't think battery voltage is the problem.

[Parky]

Mmm, yes 150 miles should do it or so I would have thought. Let’s hope it’s something small that just needs the ecu codes cleared or a loose wire tightened.

 

It is a nice looking car isnt it? Quite handsome and understated, can imagine it’s a nice place to be on a long journey

[twosmoke300]

Sounds horribly Ecu related . Misfire for every cylinder ?

Usually the injectors/ coils have a 12v feed via the ign switch and are switched to earth by the Ecu .

Think I’ll be checking the Ecu powers and grounds first

[fatharris]

Oh, and I only insured it for three days.

 

The cost?

 

TWENTY TWO BASTARD QUID.

[fatharris]

Had a minor FTP today - just cranked, started lumpily and died.

 

Same symptoms as the crank sensor failure in the BMW.

 

Coincidence? Perhaps. But eventually he started again and drove home all right. The insurance runs out tonight at midnight and won't be renewed until next week for another few days.

 

But still... SAD SELFIE.

 

[twosmoke300]

Classic crank sensor symptoms - similar face that I pulled when Herman conked out on me too

[xtriple]

I was always waiting for it to go wrong properly, I thought (in my infinite wisdom!) that it would make fault finding easier! I hope it does 'cos it's a nice car to drive when on 6 and going properly.

[Steve79]

From what's being discussed on the US forums for Kia and Hyundai, the delta and theta v6 suffer a lot from coil pack issues. Interestingly I came across the following youtube video about a santa fe suffering similar issues and turning out to the the crank sensor wiring.

 

Worth considering!

 

https://youtu.be/prhEdlHweFE

I'll refer you back to this

[fatharris]

I'll refer you back to this

I just scrolled back and watched it

[purplebargeken]

Just wondering....... you know, for when you get bored with the Kia..............how much might it be available for?

 

Just theoretically...........

[fatharris]

I'll be able to come up with a more reliable figure once TwoSmoke has looked at the running issues, and it'll be having a set of tyres, an MOT and possibly a service.

 

But, I have a new car on the way, and you're a shiter so it'll be reasonable.

[fatharris]

This is only the third time I've put fuel in the Kia!

 

Now dropped off for investigation into the misfire.

[fatharris]

I haven't updated this yet, but I'm glad I let TwoSmoke on this as he has a scope (as well as actual knowledge ), which revealed this signal from the crank sensor:

 

 

In his words:

 

"Bit of a messy signal - the random high/ low spikes . Without another one to scope it’s hard to say if it’s interference or not . Engine revs change when you poke the crank sensor wiring . Right twat to get to but looking like a good place to start"

 

A new sensor is on order so we'll know if that was the culprit after it is fitted.

[Wingz123]

^ Hope it is and your troubles are sorted!

[fatharris]

Me too - with a new arrival on the driveway due before the weekend, I need to get this Kia turned around sharpish.

[Jim Bell]

Fingers and testicles crossed man. Whats incoming?

[fatharris]

Fingers and testicles crossed man. Whats incoming?

Something wholly inappropriate that will be revealed in due time.

[purplebargeken]

I bet it's a blue Citroen AX.

[fatharris]

Bad news - it wasn't the crank sensor at fault.

 

Potentially good news - disconnecting and reconnecting the ECU /seems/ to have done the trick.

 

Very good news - this exchange seemed worthy of "quote of the year":

 

[fatharris]

Okay, I'm not after ideas on how to put a spin on this misfire.

 

It shuts down an injector, so "automatic engaging economy fuel saving mode"?

[Jim Bell]

Self modulating auto stop start eco mode.