Is it still possible to buy a "nailed on" classic car for less than two grand?

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

 I paid a grand for that scabby Maestro all be it with a years ticket. Nice ones are over two grand.

 

 

Why is a 'nice' Maestro over two grand? I bought/sold/fixed these back in the day and don't have any fondness for them - Nostalgia is getting desperate if we're looking back on this as a golden era.

[eddyramrod]

It;s not "us" though, it's the young hipsters who remember Dad's car, same as I remember the mk3 Zephyr with such inordinate fondness.

[SiC]

I don't remember my Dads company car Montego estate that had squeaky suspension with any fondness...

[cort16]

A nice mg maestro not a plain jane one.

[Captain Furious]

This is my Dadmobile on a jaunt around the LakeDistrict earlier this year. Paid £3750 about 18 months ago (probably a bit salty but it is properly tidy, rust free and the exact colour/spec/engine I was after, so y'know) no doubt you can get cheaper, slightly scruffier examples for around the 2 grand mark.

 

Other than banger racers there isn’t a great deal of interest from the OSF brigade so scene tax is minimal, tend to keep better than Tina’s and still draw a strong amount of approval from giffers at classic car type events.

 

No idea if it is 'nailed on' though

 

 

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

It;s not "us" though, it's the young hipsters who remember Dad's car, same as I remember the mk3 Zephyr with such inordinate fondness.

 

 

Mark III Zodiacs were stylish.

 

To have had a Dad with a new Maestro would be something you'd want to forget.

[eddyramrod]

At 6 years old I knew what a Zodiac was: it was the stuff of dreams.  Our Zephyr was the 1703 edition and I still loved it!

 

The one Maestro I've owned was an MG 2.0i so maybe my view of them is skewed a bit, but that was a bloody good little car.

[danthecapriman]

Mark III Zodiacs were stylish.

 

To have had a Dad with a new Maestro would be something you'd want to forget.

As with most things in life that's something everyone sees differently though?

 

I personally love 70's Fords and there's not much I find more appealing than something like a mk3 Cortina or Capri tbh! I honestly don't see any fault in those old Fords. But they're what I like, what I know inside out and they work for me.

I guess the same is true of Meastros and Montegos!? I appreciate them as old cars and they beat moderns hands down but I wouldn't want one. But some people do. They can't remember or relate to mk3 Zodiacs or A60's etc.

[stormee]

Don't do Cortina Mk5 or Taunus Mk3 with a pinto. My mom used to have a 1982 Taunus festival and it was awful in any way. Ride was wobbly and shaky as an air mattress on the Rhine, no serious road handling, really slow as 1,6 and all the misery in that pinto/windnoise orchestra! Rather walk!

[danthecapriman]

Don't do Cortina Mk5 or Taunus Mk3 with a pinto. My mom used to have a 1982 Taunus festival and it was awful in any way. Ride was wobbly and shaky as an air mattress on the Rhine, no serious road handling, really slow as 1,6 and all the misery in that pinto/windnoise orchestra! Rather walk!

Mines fine? Done the job for 40+ years too! Best engines going the Pinto!

[New POD]

You want something utterly unloved from the Mid 90's, MK3 Cavalier 1.4 base model or L, or 2.0 8V omega or Calibra or a 1.4 Tigra. Cars that might never achieve classic status, get scrapped and end up rare and classic.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

 

I guess the same is true of Meastros and Montegos!?  they beat moderns hands down 

 

 

How?

[danthecapriman]

How?

Style! You can work on them at home with tools out of a Xmas cracker. Stand out from the crowd...

 

New doesn't automatically = better.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Don't do Cortina Mk5 or Taunus Mk3 with a pinto. My mom used to have a 1982 Taunus festival and it was awful in any way. Ride was wobbly and shaky as an air mattress on the Rhine, no serious road handling, really slow as 1,6 and all the misery in that pinto/windnoise orchestra! Rather walk!

 

 

That Taunus was unloved in Germany because the Germans didn't have the company car culture and bought their own cars. And there were many better cars such as the Ascona. Ford always struggled in Germany tbh until the Focus and Mondeo. The Cortina/Taunus always had that arse wobbling sensation as the rear axle squirmed about on the void bushes. The ploughing understeer caught me out once as well and I t-boned a Marina on a very tight left hander. The Sierra was sooo much better to drive.

 

The Pinto was a great engine though, the 1600GT in particular.

[Bren]

You can get 4/6 pot SD1'S in this range.

Like wise Carlton / senator

Some nice viva's below £2k.

[danthecapriman]

Here you go,

 

Viva, with MOT and it's a nice looker.

 

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C933812

 

I would.

 

Cav coupe for £1500...

 

http://www.carandclassic.co.uk/car/C938702

[stormee]

Mines fine? Done the job for 40+ years too! Best engines going the Pinto!

Yes, they do their job. I see a Capri in your sig, my mom had a 1976 Capri GL with the 72hp pinto, the car was really nice but I never loved the noise of that, my grampa had a very early 1970 Knudsen XL by that time, guess what engine...

[danthecapriman]

Yes, they do their job. I see a Capri in your sig, my mom had a 1976 Capri GL with the 72hp pinto, the car was really nice but I never loved the noise of that, my grampa had a very early 1970 Knudsen XL by that time, guess what engine...

They're usually fine if they're looked after. I've got a 1.6 in a Capri and a 2.0 in a Transit. Both are not really noisy at all, certainly no more than any other engine anyway. I think my Cologne V6 powered Granada was noisier!

I meant it a bit tongue in cheek when I said best engines ever btw! Though I do love them.

 

Wtf is Knudsen?

[stormee]

That Taunus was unloved in Germany because the Germans didn't have the company car culture and bought their own cars. And there were many better cars such as the Ascona. Ford always struggled in Germany tbh until the Focus and Mondeo. The Cortina/Taunus always had that arse wobbling sensation as the rear axle squirmed about on the void bushes. The ploughing understeer caught me out once as well and I t-boned a Marina on a very tight left hander. The Sierra was sooo much better to drive.

 

The Pinto was a great engine though, the 1600GT in particular.

 Never experienced a GT. Ascona was popular but whenever possible people went for the Passat or even Audi 80 by that time, fwd was soo the word and that 827 lump was a sensible choice. The Sierra was better than the Taunus and sold well but underneath there wasn't everything new and fancy, enough to almost catapult me off the Autobahn in an XR4i at 230km/h...

[stormee]

They're usually fine if they're looked after. I've got a 1.6 in a Capri and a 2.0 in a Transit. Both are not really noisy at all, certainly no more than any other engine anyway. I think my Cologne V6 powered Granada was noisier!

I meant it a bit tongue in cheek when I said best engines ever btw! Though I do love them.

 

Wtf is Knudsen?

Knudsen was the designer of the Taunus TC who gave it the typical nose-shape. With'noise' I meant the typical engine sound.

[danthecapriman]

Knudsen was the designer of the Taunus TC who gave it the typical nose-shape.

Oh!

We didn't get the Taunus here, it was the Cortina. Mk4/5 shape was much the same but the earlier mk3 was quite different but sort of similar!

 

I've noticed before, but it seems different countries prefer different things in this respect. Over here Ford seem much more popular but in Germany (for example) Opel/GM seem to be the more popular.

Over in the states, there's the war between the two too! Ford or GM never both.

Odd!

 

I'm sure you can guess which side of the fence I'm sitting on!

[stormee]

Oh!

We didn't get the Taunus here, it was the Cortina. Mk4/5 shape was much the same but the earlier mk3 was quite different but sort of similar!

 

I've noticed before, but it seems different countries prefer different things in this respect. Over here Ford seem much more popular but in Germany (for example) Opel/GM seem to be the more popular.

Over in the states, there's the war between the two too! Ford or GM never both.

Odd!

 

I'm sure you can guess which side of the fence I'm sitting on!

Yes, I see. The Cortina Mk3 and the contemporary Taunus TC (Knudsen) were very similar bodily and identical on the technical aspect, the 'Tina lacking that typical nose, Taunus was short of that nice curve by the hips. Mk4 and Taunus II were identical in any aspect, there even was a Taunus 2.0S and 2.3S which I'd really give a try! V6 and S pack sounds promising.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Koln built Fords were so much better than UK ones though. When buying Cortinas etc from auctions, open the bonnet and see if it said Ford Werke Aktiengesellschaft on the VIN plate. German ones had better steel, rustproofing and panel fit - the Mark II Granada was built there and was much better made than the Mark 1.

 

Their Mark II Capri 2.0 used the smallest V6 as well.

 

Remember those 1974/5 Cortina Mark III's with 'Decor' boot badges? Turns out they were built in Holland and imported to the UK when Dagenham were on strike. Decor is a trim level on Dutch Fords!

[danthecapriman]

Koln built Fords were so much better than UK ones though. When buying Cortinas etc from auctions, open the bonnet and see if it said Ford Werke Aktiengesellschaft on the VIN plate. German ones had better steel, rustproofing and panel fit - the Mark II Granada was built there and was much better made than the Mark 1.

 

Their Mark II Capri 2.0 used the smallest V6 as well.

 

Remember those 1974/5 Cortina Mark III's with 'Decor' boot badges? Turns out they were built in Holland and imported to the UK when Dagenham were on strike. Decor is a trim level on Dutch Fords!

Definitely. The German built Fords were always the ones to go for.

The absolute worst of the lot were the Spanish built ones! They were terrible for rust.

 

My Capri was built in Halewood, hence - rust! We all know about that from my thread about it!

I had a Fiesta mk2 which was German. Significantly less rusty than a mates Spanish one.

Of course they all rusted just by design and rust proofing eventually. My Granada mk2 was German and that had lots of rust but it was an old car with high miles.

[John F]

danthecapriman, on 05 Dec 2017 - 10:45 PM, said:

Style!

 

I genuinely laughed at that.

[DaveDorson]

This is my Dadmobile on a jaunt around the LakeDistrict earlier this year. Paid £3750 about 18 months ago (probably a bit salty but it is properly tidy, rust free and the exact colour/spec/engine I was after, so y'know) no doubt you can get cheaper, slightly scruffier examples for around the 2 grand mark.

 

Other than banger racers there isn’t a great deal of interest from the OSF brigade so scene tax is minimal, tend to keep better than Tina’s and still draw a strong amount of approval from giffers at classic car type events.

 

No idea if it is 'nailed on' though

 

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My dad had a 2.8 Ghia version in blue.

 

Many fond memories of this type of Granada if I'm honest, but as nice as they are, I'd always wish I had a Jag.  I think we've all figured out I really want an XJ6, don't I?

 

As said previously, it's time for me to get cracking on shedding my shite, getting things done and moved, or just moved, freeing up some money, killing off some dead weight, and figuring out a strategy. 

[AlabamaShrimp]

Definitely. The German built Fords were always the ones to go for.

The absolute worst of the lot were the Spanish built ones! They were terrible for rust.

 

My Capri was built in Halewood, hence - rust! We all know about that from my thread about it!

I had a Fiesta mk2 which was German. Significantly less rusty than a mates Spanish one.

Of course they all rusted just by design and rust proofing eventually. My Granada mk2 was German and that had lots of rust but it was an old car with high miles.

This. Both my German Fiestas are 100 times better than my Spanish one for rust

[alrg500]

My dad had a 2.8 Ghia version in blue.

 

Many fond memories of this type of Granada if I'm honest, but as nice as they are, I'd always wish I had a Jag.  I think we've all figured out I really want an XJ6, don't I?

 

As said previously, it's time for me to get cracking on shedding my shite, getting things done and moved, or just moved, freeing up some money, killing off some dead weight, and figuring out a strategy. 

Yeah, I liked the old 2.8 Granada's 

[LC Torana]

Surely the unloved Rover 2000 Auto can be had for less than 2k?  Perhaps not.

 

But since you want something nailed on, I think you're going to struggle at any price.  The Morgan +4 has a wooden chassis, but even that has screws and rivets...

[Mr Laurence]

I know I'm reviving an oldish thread, but I saw this on Gumtree and thought of it. No mention of MOT, but it seems solid enough in the (not very good) photos. Could this be the type of thing you're looking for?

 

 

https://www.gumtree.com/p/daimler/daimler-jaguar-sovereign-series-2-1978/1278985805