40 years Rolling MOT exemption is Go!

[Junkman]

Despite there not being a requirement to test the car, surely its got to be roadworthy. If you went into the back of someone due to failed brakes as a result of being unroadworthy then it wouldn't surprise me if the insurance company wouldn't pay out.

 

This applies equally no matter whether the car has a valid MoT, doesn't have a valid MoT, or is exempt.

[sierraman]

True but a serious defect would be picked up at the annual test, without that a car could literally fall in half and there's no measure to make sure it conforms to a standard of roadworthiness

[SiC]

True but a serious defect would be picked up at the annual test, without that a car could literally fall in half and there's no measure to make sure it conforms to a standard of roadworthiness

At which point, when the car falls into half on the road, the owner gets a good kicking by a police officer called out to clear the mess.

[Junkman]

True but a serious defect would be picked up at the annual test,

 

Nonsense.

[sierraman]

Why is that nonsense.

[captain_70s]

True but a serious defect would be picked up at the annual test, without that a car could literally fall in half and there's no measure to make sure it conforms to a standard of roadworthiness

A wheel bearing can start grumbling a week after a car passes it's MOT and then continue to disintegrate for the next 11 months. Depending on the sort of mileage you do your car could be in a completely different condition to how it was at the MOT a couple of months down the line.

 

The MOT also varies wildly depending on tester. My Acclaim received not a single advisory for rust at it's last MOT (and the one before that), under 1000 miles later and "excessive corrosion" was found all over the underside. That's not appeared overnight, the last few MOTs simply didn't spot it, they also didn't notice my Civic's binding rear brakes when that passed. When I first bought my Dolly 1300 it featured a variety of ancient tyres featuring massive bulges in the sidewalls, sailed through it's MOT. My 1850HL's front subframe was being held straight by the steering column resulting in the steering not self centring and snapping 3/4 bolts in the U/J, not a problem for the MOT though!

[garbaldy]

Why is that nonsense.

I will show you in a few moments just what the junkmiester is on about.

[garbaldy]

Exhibit one.

Vehicle which has failed and below we can see why.

 

 

 

Exhibit two.

It's passed.

 

 

 

 

I bought this after the owner had trouble shutting the doors and as you can see it's legal to be insured and taxed just not road legal.

I might add the it's never had a welder to it in the two days between fail and passing.

[sierraman]

Some clunkers slip through the net I grant you but without a mandatory test every year, there's nothing to stop you, if you are an idiot, dragging something out of a barn, taxing it then setting off on your travels.

 

I'd doubt anyone on here would do this but theres a lot of people out there lacking in the grey matter who would. A guy I worked with repaired the seatbelt on the van with staples, no way that would pass the test, ideally it would fail. I understand a bearing could start to fail the day after the test but take corrosion as an example, floors don't fall out overnight, in the old system something like that would have been taken off the road.

[garbaldy]

Slipped through the net have you read that fail,

This is a Landrover and I bought it a month after its test and can put my head in the chassis hole as it's split in half with only the body holding it together, the whole chassis from front to back has chunks missing and this passed its MOT at a main dealers, that's a serious issue in my eyes

[sierraman]

There would be far more if there wasn't a test annually.

[nigel bickle]

But, if that's the case, why haven't we been swamped with pre 60's accidents?

 

And why would Government act to diminish safety standards?

[garbaldy]

There would be far more if there wasn't a test annually.

You appear to be totally missing the point, the vehicle I posted is moted not just dragged out a hedge and that MOT isn't worth the paper it's printed on.

[alcyonecorporation]

But, if that's the case, why haven't we been swamped with pre 60's accidents?

 

And why would Government act to diminish safety standards?

 

 

Because the cynical side of me suspects this is a preamble to restricted use if enough accidents are publicised. 

 

"Oh, well, your car doesn't need an MoT, so why would you need to drive it at night? You're only taking it to a show......"

[twosmoke300]

Doesn’t France do something like that already ?

[DodgeRover]

Exhibit one.

Vehicle which has failed and below we can see why.

 

 

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Exhibit two.

It's passed.

 

 

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I bought this after the owner had trouble shutting the doors and as you can see it's legal to be insured and taxed just not road legal.

I might add the it's never had a welder to it in the two days between fail and passing.

Of course not they just removed the towbar, therefore the corrosion it failed on was not structural.

[garbaldy]

/\ The state of the rest of the chassis would say otherwise and to top it off the towbar is still present and correct complete with rust ridden bolts which would snap if I looked at them,

The dvsa or whatever they are called would rip the garage a new arsehole, oh and the fracture is no where near the towbar it's where the axle is mounted to chassis under seat area.

[nigel bickle]

Might be right Jon, except I don't think Gubberment is that cohesive. Hope not, any ways.

[AMC Rebel]

Doesn’t France do something like that already ?

This takes various forms in many places - my understanding is it’s been rolled back again in France to be less restrictive again. IIRC Belgium and Australia are pretty restrictive

[DodgeRover]

In Aus you can have historic rego at a reduced rate, it's much less strict than it used to be (in Victoria at least) There is the option to just have normal reg for a vehicle used everyday

[sierraman]

I'd be interested to hear an MOT testers thoughts on this.

[alcyonecorporation]

I'd be interested to hear an MOT testers thoughts on this.

 

Paging Meggersdog....

[Partridge]

Because the cynical side of me suspects this is a preamble to restricted use if enough accidents are publicised. 

 

"Oh, well, your car doesn't need an MoT, so why would you need to drive it at night? You're only taking it to a show......"

I really hope that isn't the case. In twenty years time I really don't want to be forced out of dailying '90s stuff.

[Exiled_Tat_Gatherer]

This takes various forms in many places - my understanding is it’s been rolled back again in France to be less restrictive again. IIRC Belgium and Australia are pretty restrictive

Actually - over here in Belgosproutville it's also been relaxed. Used to be the O old timer plate was show travel only...... now, although test is still as it was, i.e. Not much in all honesty, you're ok any time. Only not to/from work..... anything else you're golden.

 

But being UK, wouldn't surprise me if they're planning implementing what others are already retracting..... stranger things have happened.

 

Wjat I'm interested to see is if it has an effect on the available V5s for old tat. Land Rover scene type affair going multi marque?

[Sir Snipes]

Exhibit one.

Vehicle which has failed and below we can see why.

 

 

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Exhibit two.

It's passed.

 

 

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I bought this after the owner had trouble shutting the doors and as you can see it's legal to be insured and taxed just not road legal.

I might add the it's never had a welder to it in the two days between fail and passing.

So was the second test done by his mate and with £50 stuffed in the glovebox or something?

[garbaldy]

So was the second test done by his mate and with £50 stuffed in the glovebox or something?

I recon the second one was done while the owner was bent over the bonnet with no knickers on.

[sheffcortinacentre]

I be leave another u turn as happened first it was major fail meens you can only remove on a truck /trailer, now it's the kit cars will have to have an up-to-date emissions engine.

 

But don't worry there's roughly a fortnight before the new well thought out laws-rules become enforceable.

[alcyonecorporation]

Kits and imports aren't going to be emissions tested to modern standards now. 

Garages are also not allowed to detain/impound vehicles if a tested vehicle gets a major or a dangerous. 

Shit- sorry, you just said that. 

[sierraman]

The garage has no authority at all to detain the car, id just take it away. Nothing they could do about it.

[SiC]

So my MGBs MOT ran out last month. It is currently in the Historic tax class.

 

My plan on the 20th May 2018 is to:

• First thing in the morning visit https://www.gov.uk/historic-vehicles to see if they've updated the guidance - which I expect them to on that day.
• If its still unclear on what to do, I'll visit https://www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax and see if I can "re-tax" my vehicle. Even though its currently set as taxed, I seem to remember that I managed to do this before. I might plug my details in again tonight and see what options it gives.
• Once sorted that its MOT exempt, I'll phone up the local garage to book it in for an MOT anyway...