Can someone explain the Irish to me?!

[trigger]

I'm bidding on a car at the moment on Ebay I'm quite keen on, But the trouble is every time i place a bid I'm out bid again 20 minutes later.The car belongs to a member on R-R and I've spoke to him as the other bidder has no feedback and a new account and it seems he's a Irish chap who's also quite keen on it.I've heard this a lot lately about Irish people buying cars from over here and taking them back to Ireland, What's this all about then? is it something to do with road tax or something?.The car is 1978 so it's not tax exempt over here, and It's in Bedfordshire, Not exactly close to Ireland.Just getting a bit pissed of now as I'm really after it but It's getting to top money now for what it is, But i guess that's Ebay for you.

[AXrescuer]

Could still be the seller shilling you. I trust nobody!

[Station]

I've heard about the Irish going for cars over here like Escorts and the like?Why not bid in the dying moments of the auction?

[trigger]

I've heard about the Irish going for cars over here like Escorts and the like?Why not bid in the dying moments of the auction?

I might well do yet, but not really sure if I'm paying to much, Is £1360 for a 1978 Dolomite 1500 HL Sound a lot?.I didn't wonder about the shilling AX but It's Lewis of RR and I've no reason not to trust him. Hey ho, these things happen.

[shite_meister]

Use a sniping tool, think of the most you'd pay and get it sniped, it won't put a bid on untill the last few seconds so he won't think that anybody else is bidding untill its too late.I've only ever lost twice using a sniper and the items went for more than I was prepared to pay so I wasn't in that adrenaline-fueled last second panic bidding like some crazed ebay junkie.

[FredTransit]

RI still have rolling exemption, so a 78 will be exempt there. I agree with shite_miester, try a snipe site. Try www.justsnipe.com costs nothing and just might get you that last bid.

[dollywobbler]

Yup, HUGE classic interest in Ireland. No road tax and a strong Euro make Brit-tin seem very enticing.

[shite_meister]

I use auction stealer, you can use their 10-second snipe for free but you can upgrade and would be wise to go for the three second snipe as the odds of someone entering another bid after three seconds is slim although there are some snipers that are one second from finish. Costs about £1.49.

[trigger]

Cheers for that about the tax, i did wonder as i know a lot of old escorts and jap stuff goes out there.

i've used a sniper before and might use it again.

I use the one on www.goofbay.com, which is also a great site for checking what people have been bidding on!

[Guest]

Oh for fuck's sake.Do I really have to explain the oldskool saga again?Sadly if I ever come to sell any of my chod and an Irishman's interested, he's going to have to do quite a bit to overcome my preconceptions foisted on my brain by that cleft licking retard.*realises there are Irish who are not oldskool1977 and therefore probably normal and not batshit insane.*

[mirafioriman]

I think that many old cars were scrapped in Ireland some time ago and therefore they have to buy them from the UK. They seem to have deep pockets where certain cars are concerned. Also in Ireland now they are not insuring LHD cars so it is no good importing from Europe. This will also I think increase the number of cars heading that way.....

[RedSparrow]

Yup, HUGE classic interest in Ireland. No road tax and a strong Euro make Brit-tin seem very enticing.

Ah that explains a lot. I narrowly saved my Metro from being dragged off to Ireland by another interseted party. I wondered why someone would take the trouble to ship it over.

[Torsten2001]

They only introduced an MOT test (NCT) fairly recently which forced 1000's of cars off the road, as a youth I remember my uncles Ford Anglia (GID523) having two planks of wood as the floor and four totally slick tyres, this was the early 80's! His Morris J4 (IID835) was only taken off the road as the rear springs finally lost all contact with the chassis, it lasted less than two years as a hen house before it collapsed.

[trigger]

Well i won't be bidding on it now anyway!, It's now gone up to £1950 with 7 hours to go which is a bit steep for a Dolomite 1500!.Nevermind, Just have to keep looking...

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

IIRC, the Southern Irish get much cheaper road tax on anything under either 1.6 or 1.8 litres.I sold a lovely one owner 1989 BMW 316i E30 on the Electronic Bay 2 years ago.Guy flew over from Dublin, and I collected him from East Mids. He drove the little blighter back to Hollyhead or somesuch place for the ferry back to Oirland. It was an absolutely hassle free transaction.That Oldskool twat is an absolute arseache though - I've crossed swords with him myself.

[wuvvum]

Irishman (n.) - A simple machine for turning Guinness into piss.

 

To be fair, the only car-selling transaction I've ever had with someone from Ireland was completely hassle-free (although it wasn't via eBay). The chap had bought a Mercedes Sprinter minibus off eBay, flown over and then got a train to Peterborough to pick it up, but when he got there the bloke never showed up and his phone was switched off. So Irish bloke is stuck in Peterborough with a ferry crossing the next day and no way of getting to Liverpool. I had a Mini Mayfair for sale in the Freeads that week for £200 (no T&T), so he got a train to Norwich, bought it and buggered off Liverpoolwards. The Mini had been standing in a yard in Great Yarmouth for five years before I bought it, but it drove the 25 miles home easily enough and seemed to be in good mechanical condition. I never heard back from him so assume he made it.

 

Mate of mine sold a Spitfire on eBay, Irish bloke won it and was a royal pain in the backside. Wanted my mate to deliver it to Birmingham initially, then wanted him to drive it to a garage about 25 miles away so they could inspect it (after he'd already won the bid). Then when my mate refused due to lack of tax on the car, Irish chap was going to send someone with a trailer to collect the car and take it away to be inspected, and got proper miffed when mate said the car wasn't leaving his driveway until it was paid for. The whole thing fell through in the end, then mate had to spend ages on the phone to eBay trying to get the negative feedback removed.

 

Unsurprisingly, the seller of the Lancer I went to see yesterday mentioned that he'd had a lot of interest from Ireland. I reckon there's a good chance it'll end up heading over there as the Irish tend to pay more for '70s cars than we do.

[pogweasel]

Mate of mine sold a Spitfire on eBay, Irish bloke won it and was a royal pain in the backside. Wanted my mate to deliver it to Birmingham initially, then wanted him to drive it to a garage about 25 miles away so they could inspect it (after he'd already won the bid). Then when my mate refused due to lack of tax on the car, Irish chap was going to send someone with a trailer to collect the car and take it away to be inspected, and got proper miffed when mate said the car wasn't leaving his driveway until it was paid for. The whole thing fell through in the end, then mate had to spend ages on the phone to eBay trying to get the negative feedback removed.

That sounds familiar. I've had at least 4 occasions when similar has happened, sending mates with lorries/trailers, can I fetch it to the docks etc. That said I think that on at least two occasions it was the same person, and I have good grounds to suspect that the same idiot was responsible. And a very well-known idiot at that,,,,, Also had a chap wanted to take my Super Minx to Oirland, rang up asked if it was a runner/driving - I answered yes, to which he said he would drive it to pembroke. I said not on your nelly, as per the description, NO BRAKES, at all. It took me several mintues to get this idea through to him, I mean would anyone here actually consider driving an unMOT'd, untaxed car 200 miles with just the gears & handbrake to slow you down? He actually got quite narky about it too. TWAT.

[STUNO]

Just have to say I don't understand the Irish as I'm half each Scottish and English, but I have a relative called Paddy O'Riordan who lives in Scotland

[RENOMAD]

Well as an Irish member here, first I would like to answer the main question here--why do we like old shite.The Government introduced a scrappage scheme in the mid nineties for any car over 10 years old. Needless to say that that got rid of a lot of what would be now prime 80's movers. Also with the introduction of of our NCT(MOT) in 2000, many garages ran their own scrappage schemes which meant that car sales rocketed and nobody wanted the old stuff. Now we cannot get enough of it. Fords seem to be particularly in demand,partly because their was a Ford factory in Cork being one of the few cars assembled here. Guys,,,it doesn't matter what country you are in,you will still get the guys who kick your tyres,run down your motor,and do anything to waste your time. We just seem to be a particularly easy target because of our insatiable appetite for shite

[Torsten2001]

^^^WHS

[RENOMAD]

^^^WHS

Pardon my ignorancebut what does that mean?

[Volksy]

What He Said

[RENOMAD]

Ohh and by the way--I've never even tasted Guinness

[wuvvum]

I've noticed that the shite I have seen in Ireland has tended to be in pretty much spotless condition - maybe this is a result of all the scruffy "native" stuff having been cubed and only decent-quality cars imported to replace them? The cleanest R16 I've ever seen in my life was in Dublin. Are older cars MoT exempt in Ireland or is it just tax exemption?

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

their was a Ford factory in Cork being one of the few cars assembled here.

Aaah yes. I had a lovely Cortina Mark 5 that was Cork built, a Fjord blue 1.6L 4 door, RMB90V. She was by far the best built of all the Cortys I had with minimal rust. I put a pair of wings on, Waxoyled it to death and sold it in 1989. And bought it back in 1990, sold it again and bought it for the last time in 1993. I can still remember what a quiet smooth old beast it was.R.I.P no doubt.

[CortinaDave]

Lasted til '96 by the look of it... Not a bad innings for a mk5 Cortina, your waxoyling must have been good.The enquiry is complete The vehicle details for RMB 90V are: Date of Liability 01 07 1996 Date of First Registration 23 01 1980 Year of Manufacture 1980 Cylinder Capacity (cc) 1593CC CO2 Emissions Not Available Fuel Type Petrol Export Marker Not Applicable Vehicle Status Unlicensed Vehicle Colour BLUE Vehicle Type Approval null The information contained on this page is correct at the time of enquiry. Vehicle Excise Duty Rate for vehicle 6 Months Rate £104.50 12 Months Rate £190.00

[binhoker668]

You Irish as well Torst?And Renomad, NEVER tasted Guinness?Jaysus.Well - yeah - there's a fuckload of interest in decent motors over at home - always has been. I really miss the old days before NCT/Scrappage scheme etc. Used to (really) get lifts (avid hitcher) across the border in ancient granadas with a passenger door missing, smoke pouring out of most of 'em, no bonnets, wobbly wheels etc etc.Proper Clampett style classic motors, piloted by (mostly) beardy mad yokes smoking ten million rothmans, and of course a thousand religious statuettes all over the dash with soundtrack by the dubliners/planxty etc etc.Ace way to travel on yer way to Dublin fer a punk gig.Understanding the Irish though.....Hmmm....Fairly long ole conversation that one!!