Berlingo XUD9TE project (Y THO?)

[Dave_Q]

GR12 progress, on the road for Monday yes?

[Lacquer Peel]

Maybe aye. There's talk of an all nighter.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Splendid work LP, great shed and pics too

[dollywobbler]

Great stuff lads! Have a good'un.

[Lacquer Peel]

XUD in. A bit worried about wiring compatibility but I think the XUD bits, relays, etc. are standalone.

 

[KruJoe]

Good work lads, ace pics an'all.

 

You might need the all-nighter to get LP's workplace tidied up in time for the boss arriving on Monday!

[Dave_Q]

Shouldn't be much to the wiring, needs 12v up its stop solenoid, starter wiring up, and glowplugs.

 

What have you done/ planning to do on the exhaust side? Xsara downpipe + bodgery or will the full xsara system go on?

[Lacquer Peel]

Not going well. The driveshafts aren't fully going in. Any ideas?

[dollywobbler]

This is just like an Autoshite version of Roadkill. Ace.

[Dave_Q]

Not going well. The driveshafts aren't fully going in. Any ideas?

Do the ends look like the Xsara shafts?

 

If so:

 

[Lacquer Peel]

They're in okay now and I gearbox oil isn't pishing out so it's all good. Now for electricity and plumbing. What could possibly go wrong?

[Lacquer Peel]

This is just like an Autoshite version of Roadkill. Ace.

Without the burnouts and V8 noise, veg smoke and diesel cackle instead.

[Richard]

It was a false alarm. The short driveshaft was going in as far as it should after all, the long shaft drew in when I tightened the centre bearing bolts.

 

I'm a little concerned that the engine mounts lined up perfectly, shouldn't I have had to modify them?

[Richard]

[KruJoe]

Am I alone in thinking that those early Xsaras are a really pretty design?

[dollywobbler]

Am I alone in thinking that those early Xsaras are a really pretty design?

 

Yes. Come on man! It replaced the ZX! The Xsara is a horrible saggy pudding of a thing!

[bub2006]

It was a false alarm. The short driveshaft was going in as far as it should after all, the long shaft drew in when I tightened the centre bearing bolts.

 

I'm a little concerned that the engine mounts lined up perfectly, shouldn't I have had to modify them?

From what I know xud9 and dw8 lumps mount the same.

[Lacquer Peel]

Bastard short driveshaft still isn't going in far in enough to seal

[KruJoe]

I like a ZX as much as the next man, but

 

 saggy pudding 

 

Just look at its pert little bottom!

 

 

What's not to like? The facelifted front was a blobby disaster, however.

[dean36014]

Got to agree with you about the facelift front. wonder if i change the van back to preface lift? the headlights are sodding useless too unlike the mk1 versions. 

[dollywobbler]

I like a ZX as much as the next man, but

 

 

Just look at its pert little bottom!

 

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What's not to like?

 

The rear lights. The chunkiness between rear wheelarch and window line. The stubby arse. The height of the rear deck. The colour. The disparity between the line of the rear side window and the roof line. The crease above the rear lights, which is hideous in a way a Xantia is clean-cut and pretty. In short, all of it.

[KruJoe]

Ooof harsh!

See, I like that, all of it. It's like a baby 406 Coupe.

 

 

But I wouldn't kick a Xantia out of bed for dropping biscuit crumbs either! Each to their own, eh?

 

How's it going up north lads?

Is that driveshaft in yet?

[dollywobbler]

I s'pose it does look a bit like a 406 coupe. That has been rear-ended... Or maybe a cheap Chinese knock-off of one?

 

I'm sure* they're out on test drive at moment, hence the radio silence.

[Lacquer Peel]

I think Xsaras look dumpy and bland but they're nice to drive.

 

Driveshafts are good, electrics aren't. The starter runs constantly and there are all kinds of warning lights. I think the DW8 and XUD looms will need to be combined somehow but wiring is largely beyond me.

[Lacquer Peel]

 

Sad.

 

I found a "chauffage" relay with a broken wire and no wire connected at the opposite positive or negative side , maybe that's the problem.

[Dave_Q]

Chauffage is heating, so probably glow plugs?

[Lacquer Peel]

Yep that's my guess too but does it affect the ignition circuit enough to make the starter run all the time with the key turned to position 2?

[Dave_Q]

Possibly? I can't find a wiring diagram online that I can make sense of.

 

Is it the same with the chauffage relay removed?

[Sigmund Fraud]

I've only just caught up with this topic - brilliant work so far !

 

It sounds like you've reached the most unpleasant part of engine swaps : sorting out the electrics !

 

I know nothing about XUs, but a starter should only have two wires going to it - if it keeps running, the wire you've connected to the solenoid is the wrong wire (or its other end is connected to the wrong thing).

 

In an old fashioned diesel, you should only have continuous +12v to the fuel shut off solenoid and the glow plug relay.

[Lacquer Peel]

The starter wiring wasn't disturbed, at least not at the starter motor end.

 

The dash has ALL the warning lights when it turns over. I have a creeping suspicion that some of the DW8 loom has to be used.