SiC's Silver Saab 9-5 2.3t Vector - Gone!

[Shep Shepherd]

Result!

[5speedracer]

Thank fuck, these tenterhooks are awfy uncomfy !

 

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[mrbenn]

Pretty bloody good show by the old bus there! 200k up AND done over 20k in the last year.

 

You've got to fix it after that performance!

[Dick Cheeseburger]

Excellent news!

[barefoot]

Well done Sir.

[beko1987]

You fixed it and written a full suite of android diagnostic apps yet?

[SiC]

She flew thru the emissions the tester said! Looking at the number though, doesn't look that spectacularly clean.

 

Hopefully these may help. £8.50 with postage for 4, I didn't even know they were genuine parts when I ordered - bargain! I realised later the eBay seller is a Saab dealer.

 

Hopefully it'll help make her run a bit smoother too. Going to have ago cleaning the throttle body as the idle can, on occasions be unstable. Unstable idles do nothing to help my nerves when stuck in traffic...

[SiC]

Also, did you actually tell them what issues it had, and that their decision would decide its future or just hand them the keys and wander off?

Did you have to excuse the state of the tyres or not bother?

Nah, I know the guys well, so I end up giving it's life story before hand. I'm sure they don't really care! I think they find it quite funny that I drive around in mostly old crap.

[SiC]

Worn plugs are worn. I measure it as a 1.4mm gap. It should be 0.9mm to 1.1mm.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

I am well interested to see this gearbox get fixed. Good luck!!!

[SiC]

I'm a bit nervous about making it worse. From the rebuild videos, they show you taking the valves apart. The problem with that is you have to remove the Allen key bolt that is calibrated by the factory for the correct pressure for a particular valve block. If it's not back in the correct position, you have not enough pressure so no drive, or too much and then damage.

[SiC]

Pretty bloody good show by the old bus there! 200k up AND done over 20k in the last year.

 

You've got to fix it after that performance!

To be honest, it's had an easy life as the majority of its miles have been from cruising on the motorway. City life is going to be much tougher on it.

[beko1987]

I'm a bit nervous about making it worse. From the rebuild videos, they show you taking the valves apart. The problem with that is you have to remove the Allen key bolt that is calibrated by the factory for the correct pressure for a particular valve block. If it's not back in the correct position, you have not enough pressure so no drive, or too much and then damage.

Can you mark the head and block, then count the turns?

[They_all_do_that_sir]

Should be OK as long as you are meticulous about disassembly and take pictures!

 

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[blackbart]

bravo, thats great news. now get the gearbox out and stripped...... wcpgw 

you can't give up on the old girl now, she's clearly putting up a fight, and is obviously not ready for the autoshite dignitas scheme, just yet

[RichL]

YES.

 

Old Swedish quality shows up yet again with NGK plugs as OE equipment. £bargain as well.

[Guest Lord Sward]

Nice tightening instructions too.

[SiC]

Wow. She seems to like the present I gave her for passing her MOT! Starts so much easier and is so much smoother with these new plugs. I also replaced all the perished vacuum lines - except the turbo, they'd been done last year and it tells. Gave a quick clean around the throttle body close position too.

 

All these things seems to have made a massive difference to the idling and running. Idling you used to often get hunting and also driving along this hunting turned into lurches. There is still a rattle from the knackered engine torque rod mount, which is also not helping with shifting smoothness.

 

Apart from the knackard gearbox valves, the only things left are fixing the interior fan and putting new batteries in the keyfob to get the remote locking working again.

 

I've got a good mate around at the weekend, so wont get spare time to start on the valve block unfortunately. I need a good whole day to do it. Despite what people have suggested on here, I'm definitely no pro shitter! [Over] ambitious maybe, slow definitely...

 

I also am very weary of going under cars, which doesn't help my enthusiasm with mechanical repairs. Unlike most, I much prefer electrical & electronic repairs! I was hoping when I bought this car, it would be more of a electronics project than mechanical.

 

This valve body repair is pretty much at the limit on how far I want to go with mechanical repairs. I'm also trying my best to source a decent price second hand replacement valves body. Will make the job a hell a lot quicker and less risky if I can.

[SiC]

Mornings fight with a Saab 9-3 in my local U-pull-it won me this prize for £40...

 

No idea if it is any good, but the fluid that came out looked pretty good nick and the miles was low on it. The earth strap at the bottom was broken on it and tyres were skinny with one ripped sidewall. I wonder if the earth strap made it FTP and the owner just chucked it??

 

Still for £40, it's a pretty darn good price. The B on the valve body means it's the revised version (which should be on mine).

[beko1987]

At least you can have a practice before trying it on yours!

[Dave_Q]

I think the idea is to swap it rather than strip it.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

20/10 and you haven't even sorted it yet!

[Parky]

Am I right in assuming it's a fairly straightforward job to swap it over? If so this is going rather well!

[SiC]

I did break the green connector, then realised I didnt need to be careful abd could just cut the loom off instead. So will need a zip tie to make sure it stays on and figure out how to get the other connectors detached. The 3 big linear solenoids (they control the pressures in the box) have those stupid connectors, while the smaller solenoid (do the actual shifting) have a much better clip fitting. It's the linear solenoids that usually cause the problem.

 

The 9-5 looks a lot easier to change the valve body over as there is much more room under there. On 9-3 that this was from had a whole load more pipes in the way and is a smaller car. The intention is to swap it straight over and see if that fixes it. If it doesn't then it allows me to clean up and fiddle the original one to try and get that working. However I suspect, given it looked like the fluid in the car it was from, had been changed at some point in its life, this one should work fine.

[Guest Hooli]

If that fixes it I'm sure* you'll want to strip the other one down to find out what the fault was anyway.

[blackbart]

good man, it's going well now .

[scaryoldcortina]

The professional cynic in me wonders if the fresh looking fluid has anything to do with the orange gasket sealer on that sump. It's like it's been off recently for repair and then the car got scrapped...

 

Good luck though, hopefully it's good!

[Shep Shepherd]

I hope the replacement valve body will put things right. It would be a shame to see another 9-5 consigned to the dustbin of history.

[SiC]

The professional cynic in me wonders if the fresh looking fluid has anything to do with the orange gasket sealer on that sump. It's like it's been off recently for repair and then the car got scrapped...

 

Good luck though, hopefully it's good!

All the torx bolts all looked untouched, unchewed and unmarked though. Saab workshop manual does advise that there is no gasket, only RTV. Took a good whack with my mallet to free it.

 

 

 

I think I've left one of my decent small, flat headed screwdrivers behind. Well annoyed.

[SiC]

I've found an aero on eBay that finishes tonight... Really tempted to bid on it, but I know I haven't finished this "project".

Argh.

 

What should I do?!