Chod being driven badly around the 'Ring...

[Captain Mainwaring]

Thought some of you might enjoy this. 'Nuff respect to the chap blatting round in a squareback Type 3...

 

 

[spike60]

I watched about a couple of minutes, too many heads hitting tarmac for my taste.

[AlabamaShrimp]

What a bunch of mad fuckers. They have zero protection, not even a seat belt. Saying that I suppose that's how it was then and I can say owt as when I was younger he didn't have them in stuff

[richardthestag]

cleansing the gene pool of some seriously mad bastards there! not so sure about the "enjoy" bit though

[PiperCub]

Quite hard to watch, esp with the roll-overs and people getting thrown out, the bloke in the Beetle who fell out - if the car had kept rolling he'd have been crushed. Not a fan of later 911's, but the early ones as here are very pretty so I winced a bit seeing them here. Thought the guy with the Saab Sonnet did a great job of missing the armco by millimetres!

Mixing cars and bikes is a bad idea, do they still do this at the Ring these days? (Never been there myself). 

[Urko]

That geezer in the type 3 did a magic side wheelie*

 

*as described by Goldie Lookin Chain

[Urko]

Were all these Fiats, VWs, NSUs, Simcas etc chod at the time?

[stephen01]

I'm assuming that there were some roll cages involved here, some of those were hard smashes.

[MrDuke]

Meh, the only nasty one was at 0:30 - the others all looked OK, most of them walked/drove away. Not too sure about the remains at 6:15, mind.

[Split_Pin]

That was a strange video! Lots of door flapping going on there. I think I have been desensitised by watching Russian dash cam videos though.

[They_all_do_that_sir]

I'd say it's much* safer now....would still love to do a tourist lap mind

[overrun]

[Forty-two]

I watched about half of it before scrolling down and reading others comments. Heads bouncing on the tarmac and people falling out, you could almost confuse it for a Russian dash cam vid! The family in the convertible beetle made me wince, I thought that was going to end badly.

 

When you watch the moderns bouncing off the Armco you really do get an idea how much stronger a modern is.

[the judge]

Kin hell!!!

 

Good find!!

 

Oh,need to keep count up,cunty wunty cunt cunts

[Dead_E23]

I reckon the green Saab Sonnett type thing that appears at 6:59 is an equally rare Alfa GT Junior Zagato.

 

I'm glad that didn't get crunched up; they are tremendously pretty little cars, and with such slim a-pillars I doubt they'd come out of a roll very well at all.

[Split_Pin]

Oh yeah, thought the same about the Junior Zagato, I have a large plastic friction model that I got as a very young kid so have always liked them.

[Jerzy Woking]

Bikes still go around at the same time as cars (and vans, coaches, etc). I won't ride there due the cock awful driving I have witnessed when spectating there for an hour or so a couple of years ago. Dangerous and no fun.

[Junkman]

Nothing has changed

 

 

 

But they are well equipped to save your life if you have a whoopsy!
 

 

The fuck they are. Note especially the one at 4:25.

[UltraWomble]

People were more ePic in the 70's - Esp the Beetle driver who gets up and gets back in the car after being thrown out.

Where are the Evil Knievel's of today?

[STUNO]

This is more my thing !!

Even a camper van

 

[Mr A Lawrence]

things I noticed.

 

1, how many people got thrown out.

 

2, how much shit people had in their cars

 

I especially liked the BMW synchronised skidding team.

[sierraman]

I noted that I'd do my utmost to avoid going fast round bends without a seatbelt in a 1953 Beetle unless I wanted to daub my brains all over the Tarmac.

 

I'd also be dubious about, these days, taking something like an average car round, you would surely end up getting in the way when there's people hooning past in Porsche Carreras.

[Urko]

Nothing has changed

 

 

 

 

 

The fuck they are. Note especially the one at 4:25.

 

A lot has changed IMHO

 

Speeds are a lot higher

Tyres are grippier and that with suspension settings means far fewer are rolled.

As they smash into the Armco you see the crumple zones saving the occupants

I didn't see anyone being thrown out.

The driver of the car at 4.25 walks away - so not sure why you think the car didn't save his life.

 

Only thing that isn't really different is a triumph of hope over skill - and probably the same lack of experience on what by any definition is a difficult circuit.

 

BTW I know it sounds an obvious thing - but they mentioned it on a rally day I did recently - as the driver said afterwards, that ZX off was all about the change in surface - where it went from dry to decidedly damp.  Not saying I wouldn't have done exactly the same BTW - I have zero skill at this stuff so I wouldn't even consider the ring.

[MrDuke]

Discounting all the actual competition cars in that clip, you can't begin to compare the moderns with older stuff. For one thing, the moderns are all going considerably quicker, and the massive damage is just the impact being absorbed. Also, check the (Sirocco?) crash at 6:25ish - I doubt it had a rollcage fitted, yet the cabin still held its shape after numerous flips, whereas doing the same in a 40-yr-old car would probably result in the occupants having to be flushed out with a hose.

 

Having said that, doing the Ring in something old would be infinitely more fun.

[garethj]

I first saw that youtube video a couple of years ago and it's grim viewing so haven't watched it since.  I think Beetles were only fitted with anti-burst locks from about 1967 so doors popping open after a bang were quite common on older ones.

 

I learned to drive in rear engined cars so I'm very aware of how they can bite, but it made it much easier when I learned how to ride motorbikes in my 30s because I knew never to brake in the middle of a corner

[UltraWomble]

 

 

I learned to drive in rear engined cars so I'm very aware of how they can bite, but it made it much easier when I learned how to ride motorbikes in my 30s because I knew never to brake in the middle of a corner

Yup, did that once, went into a corner too fast, braked, bike "stood up" and I carried on over the bend into the hedge.

Luckily the only thing bent was my pride.

[DavidB]

Nobody is hurt or killed in that first video.

I've got a video from the early 90s of hot hatches going round that corner, it's very amusing.

[HMC]

Sobering reminder of rear engine/ swing axle combo on the limit. Shocking to watch from our perspective, and to consider how motorsport has moved on over the same period from a safety perspective. It wasn't that much earlier that many racing drivers felt it was better to not be strapped in to avoid being trapped in/ under a burning car; being thrown out was considered less hazardous to your health!