Brand new shite - wud u?

[anonymous user]

I love the justifications people use for buying new cars. (some of them in this thread!)

 

Like the time m.i.l spent about 12k on a Hyundai because "it's only £30 a year to tax" and her old car was £160.

 

If you want a new car then fine, buy it. but please don't Bullshit me that is a great financial investment.

Mine was an explanation not a justification, I have never said it was a great financial investment, in my case it is more about minimising what I am losing and minimising hassle. Depreciation is not everything, I've worked out and put up my pence per mile and cost over three years, would you like to do the same? I have already said that if I was doing a lot less mileage I wouldn't buy a new car, next time I will re-work the figures to see if buying something 6 months to a year old, but still getting rid when the warranty runs out, is more more viable.

 

Would I borrow money to buy something more expensive, no. If I had pots of money would I buy something new and expensive, probably not (but there would be a Bristol on my driveway). Would I buy a modern car for more than a couple of grand, that's out of warranty, not any more.

 

As I see it, with my fundamentally flawed logic, either you buy new and cheap and get rid when the warranty runs out, or you buy dirt cheap and throw it away every time anything costing more than a few pounds goes wrong. OK so I'm a mug for wanting a warranty and a courtesy car if it does go wrong and as I have already said I don't expect to convince anyone that what I'm doing is sound financial practice, but it suits me.

[red5]

You don't have to excuse yourself, fella. If anyone doesn't like your choice of car it's their problem, not yours. Please don't feel 'unwelcome' on here, you're far from that.

 This.

 

I have a Insignia, two Fronteras and a Land Rover Discovery fast becoming an AS bike. None of them are loved or liked...or, now I think of it, am I.....ah crap, didn't think that through. 

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Just back from holiday in Florida and every ad. on the radio is for new cars ,usually Neesarn or Hun Die, whatever they are, offering "Nothing down and 0% interest with warranty forever" .

They don't mention the term of the loan or any specifics except in a comedy speeded up disclaimer at the end.

Oh, and there's no credit checks either if you have a job you can get finance, apparently.

Seems they're giving them away,some Nissan dealers are literally doing a buy one, get one free offer, there are also dealers ' guaranteeing ' to put you in a brand new car and reduce your car payments .

Mostly bollocks,I'd imagine,but we can't be far behind in making it so that anyone who doesn't buy a new car is even more weird than we already are.

 

Don't worry Rev. , you can have an Insignia too,just badged as a Buick Regal.

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A friend of my parents in Canada (Nova Scotia) bought one in 2011, metallic red to replace a small Lincoln (Mondeo sized). It's a V6 petrol auto and it's built on the same German production line as the Opel Insignia. They have a cheaper Chevrolet version as well called the Vectra (LoL) but I haven't seen one. The guy with the Regal was looking at 2003/2004 BMW 5 Series, Volvos and stuff like that and I talked him out of it. They were the same price as the new Buick and sorry, but as much as I like some BMW's you can shove a seven year old quality* Deutch Marque for the price of a perfectly good GM mid ranger with a warranty.

 

Like the Lincoln before, the Buick has been decently reliable and appears to be very well finished. It's a metallic cherry red with a cream leather interior - not my cup of tea but it's a nice thing.

 

Makes me laugh when you see rebadged 2005 model Astras over there badged up with GM's sub Chevrolet economy brand and what is clearly a mildly rehashed Vectra C.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

I would never buy new. Our 520d is 3 years old and at 1/3 of the 'new' price, it's just not worth it in my opinion.

 

 

 

You paid less than ten grand for a three year old 520d?

 

Where?

[dugong]

Except most modern car warranties are shite, and the dealer \ manufacturer tries its damndest to wriggle out of fixing problems.

Very* reassuring.

[The Reverend Bluejeans]

Brilliant thread, not.

 

 

Look, I bought a new BMW for work because I wanted to and I could.  If that makes you hate me, that's your problem not mine.  I don't talk about it on here (or anywhere else) because nobody is interested, including me. 

 

But now people have decided I'm not welcome on here, along with anyone else who has a modern car in the family?  That's fucking great, thanks.

 

 

I'm with you here. Buy what you like. In 1999 I bought a brand new Ka (T189YNU, R.I.P) because at the time I was doing a few miles and I was absolutely fucking fed up with trying to keep wankered old cars going. The previous car caught fire just after I'd spent £250 putting a clutch in. That was replaced by a terminally fucked Y reg XR3. I'd been hiring Ka's for 30 quid a day to do any serious 'I have got to get there' journeys and I was doing this 4-5 times a month. That's £150 down the bog, tax deductible or not. The local GK Ford were doing the last run of non PAS models in bog go spec for £4999 OTR and with a grand down it was about 120 quid a month. I had it for three years and chopped it in for an X reg 320d Touring because it was, at the time, a sensible thing to do. The 320d was sadly not as reliable as the Ford - nothing major but stupid niggling issues.

 

Six months later I did what any sane, rational person would do and p/x'd it against a 6 year old 840Ci. I kept it for a year, sold it, lost about 3 grand but regretted it not one jot. It was a fucking immense motor. 

 

Re the 14 grand Insignia. I won't be buying one - I have no need now as I do few miles and have six cars already. But, if I were still doing 15k+ a year that involved long trips, I bloody well would. Nice quiet comfy new car, CD player and aircon, a nice thing. When you're faced with a wintery trip from Aberdeen down to Sheffield, a nice mid range new car is just what you need. I'd have zero options, the bright red paint and the structure wheels - that's steels with plastic trims to you Sir.

[stripped fred]

Brilliant thread, not.

 

 

Look, I bought a new BMW for work because I wanted to and I could. If that makes you hate me, that's your problem not mine. I don't talk about it on here (or anywhere else) because nobody is interested, including me.

 

But now people have decided I'm not welcome on here, along with anyone else who has a modern car in the family? That's fucking great, thanks.

You can be interested in old cars and run new cars. There are no rules are there? I'm sure lots on here have newer cars in the family even if it's the one the other half drives. Don't worry what others think they're just voicing their opinions and I doubt they meant any offence. As someone else said the newer cars of today will be the ones we'll probably be talking about in a few years time.

[cort16]

These new cars are shit topics are getting a bit boring now can we get back to trying to figure out how we can recharge hydrogas systems using custard?

[Junkman]

Money, money, money, money, money and more fucking money. Now here is yet another thing that was better before 1986. People didn't talk about money, they had it.

 

I bought three new cars in my life and not in one case did money have anything to do with my decision. I did it because I wanted to.

Besides, since when am I responsible for my actions? What I do or don't do is none of my goddamn business.

 

I could be tempted to buy that there Shitroen Cocktus with the stupid 80s double bed headboards glued to its side simply because it has stupid 80s double bed headboards

glued to its side, something daft enough to delight me.

I also could warm up to this:

 

 

Then again, I have been seen wasting similar money to buy stuff with this:

 

 

Everyone should take his stupid money, buy what he bloody wants to buy and then report back here with a collection thread, because that's what life is all about

and not this dismal resale value and warranty hoax horseshit that everyone knows is put into place only because the entire financial system is based on the sole assumption

that everyone is a total dimwit.

 

Besides, custard is unfit for recharging Hydrogas systems. Everyone knows it's done with a mixture of Aldi brand shampoo and extra virgin olive oil.

[JohnK]

You paid less than ten grand for a three year old 520d?

 

Where?

£10,500.

I think this spec were around £32,500 when new.

 

I bought it for 'trade in' price at my mates garage. It's just today ticked over onto 101k so it's high mileage for its age but we will have it for another 3 years and it will probably only be on about 130-140k by then. I will bin it off if it miraculously screws up in ownership, but touch wood it won't, based on the reliability of the previous car (E60) over similar mileage.

 

Sold my 58 reg 525d with 130k for £7500 (private). I paid £8600 (trade) for that so it cost me £1100 for 40k miles.

[Richard]

 

 

Besides, custard is unfit for recharging Hydrogas systems. Everyone knows it's done with a mixture of Aldi brand shampoo and extra virgin olive oil.

 

That's pretty much how they used to make brake fluid in Cuba.

 

 

 

Edit- Mobile view strikes again.

[Tetleysmooth]

A couple of months ago, Mrs Tet was made up to section leader where she works.

She now has  got to go to Wembley for further training, which should take about a fortnight.

She was quite happy to use public transport, but her company reckoned it would be cheaper to hire her a car, so this is hers for a fortnight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A brand spanking new Volvo S80 D5.

A company of impeccable taste.

[Richard]

Six minutes in

[anonymous user]

Except most modern car warranties are shite, and the dealer \ manufacturer tries its damndest to wriggle out of fixing problems.

Very* reassuring.

Not found that myself, I must have been lucky; but I am now convinced, nobody should ever buy a new car ever again.

[chaseracer]

That's pretty much how they make rum in Cuba.

 

Allow me to assist you...

 

   

[Cavcraft]

Your next door neighbour:

 

A person of impeccable taste.

 

FTFY.

 

 

Meanwhile, I've just been to see a new Viva. I quite liked it.

[dugong]

Not found that myself, I must have been lucky; but I am now convinced, nobody should ever buy a new car ever again.

 

I'm really pleased for you. Clearly, experiences vary. 

 

Every warranty complaint I had with my C4 was refused outright. Took the shine of owning a perfect* reliable** new car with the reassurance*** of a warranty. 

Really made my monthly payments feel valued, going towards a car that kept breaking. Yeah. Great fun. Woo. 

 

Everything - everything - it disputed. I eventually got my way by withholding finance payments; suddenly it had to try otherwise it wasn't getting my money. 

[Mr Lobster]

Have to say, I've not had any issue with getting in warranty repairs done during the standard manufacturers warranty period. Even when working in rental and sending stuff to dealers on a regular basis for warranty stuff, never any issues at all.

 

Most of my family are big Kia fans and whilst they aren't my cup of tea specifically (Kias that is, the family are ok) they have proved to be impressively reliable and I think have had only a couple of issues sorted out under warranty without hassle. Father Lobsters 2010 Ceed is on something like 80k and the only thing that has needed replacing other than consumables is an outside temp sensor which was under warranty anyway.

 

Similarly, sent our Mazda to the local dealers to sort something or other just before its third birthday and it came back fixed but washed and hoovered too. 

[dugong]

Aargh.

[Junkman]

In here somewhere.

 

Jeremy Clarkson's Motorworld S02E02 Cuba BdT: https://youtu.be/BLZTaass-Og

 

If Clarkson said it on the telly, it must be true. No doubt.

[Mr Lobster]

Also, the attitude of 'ALL NU CARZ R SHIT' and 'ANY1 WHO PAYZ MORE THAN £20 AND A BROKEN XBOX FOR A CAR IS AN IDIOT' attitude that sometimes surfaces around here gets on my tits.

 

To me, Autoshite isn't just about running some old nail thats at deaths door as cheaply as possible and then throwing it away but about enjoying older, unloved stuff that the general public just doesn't 'get'. Theres plenty of people here who invest not inconsiderable sums and a good amount of time in cars that the general public would consider utter shit and wonder why on earth they don't just by a new XXXX.  

Autoshite doesn't have to be twenty odd year old stuff but its just doing your motoring in a way thats different to the new car ever three years / PCP that mainstream people like. Whether that is buying cars at three years old and running them until they drop or a succession of life expired old crocks well its all good.

 

The hostility towards the guy with the three year old 1 series BMW is crazy - if thats what you want to drive then surely buying at 3 years old when its already dropped over £15K is the way to do it.

 

Theres plenty of new cars that I would have were it that I could afford it. When its time comes, my by now 11 year old daily will be replaced by something at probably 2-3 years old and the cycle starts again - I'll run it until I've had my moneys worth.

 

Finally, whilst I love old cars I don't get the 'soulless mass produced modern boxes' thing - yes new cars are mass produced and mainly not that interesting but then at the time the exact same would have applied to everything built 20, 30 or 40 years back. Marinas weren't carefully assembled by skilled artisans who made each one a unique specimen and filled with love and character. 

 

Anyway, rant over. Just my 2p.

[alf892]

I'm really pleased for you. Clearly, experiences vary. 

Every warranty complaint I had with my C4 was refused outright. Took the shine of owning a perfect* reliable** new car with the reassurance*** of a warranty. 

Really made my monthly payments feel valued, going towards a car that kept breaking. Yeah. Great fun. Woo. 

Everything - everything - it disputed. I eventually got my way by withholding finance payments; suddenly it had to try otherwise it wasn't getting my money.

 

You wanted reliable and bought a Citreon?

 

It was your own fault!!

 

Nothing wrong with the warranty either.........they are happy to fix them.........they just don't know how or will tell you that's how it is supposed to be.

[alf892]

Also, the attitude of 'ALL NU CARZ R SHIT' and 'ANY1 WHO PAYZ MORE THAN £20 AND A BROKEN XBOX FOR A CAR IS AN IDIOT' attitude that sometimes surfaces around here gets on my tits.

 

To me, Autoshite isn't just about running some old nail thats at deaths door as cheaply as possible and then throwing it away but about enjoying older, unloved stuff that the general public just doesn't 'get'. Theres plenty of people here who invest not inconsiderable sums and a good amount of time in cars that the general public would consider utter shit and wonder why on earth they don't just by a new XXXX.  

Autoshite doesn't have to be twenty odd year old stuff but its just doing your motoring in a way thats different to the new car ever three years / PCP that mainstream people like. Whether that is buying cars at three years old and running them until they drop or a succession of life expired old crocks well its all good.

 

The hostility towards the guy with the three year old 1 series BMW is crazy - if thats what you want to drive then surely buying at 3 years old when its already dropped over £15K is the way to do it.

 

Theres plenty of new cars that I would have were it that I could afford it. When its time comes, my by now 11 year old daily will be replaced by something at probably 2-3 years old and the cycle starts again - I'll run it until I've had my moneys worth.

 

Finally, whilst I love old cars I don't get the 'soulless mass produced modern boxes' thing - yes new cars are mass produced and mainly not that interesting but then at the time the exact same would have applied to everything built 20, 30 or 40 years back. Marinas weren't carefully assembled by skilled artisans who made each one a unique specimen and filled with love and character. 

 

Anyway, rant over. Just my 2p.

Nail accurately hit....

[dugong]

You wanted reliable and bought a Citreon?

 

It was your own fault!!

 

Nothing wrong with the warranty either.........they are happy to fix them.........they just don't know how or will tell you that's how it is supposed to be.

 

Of course. Of course it was. Ha ha ha ha! I should have bought one of those stupid Korean cars and slit my wrists instead! ROFL. How DARE I expect a modern car to be reliable! The pub experts never lie!!!!!

 

Yeah, those VAG alternatives, they're so brilliant. LOL LOL what a quality car (LOL). 

 

They refused on six occasions to put faults right. Repeated letter writing and calls to the dealer and Citroen (or Citreon) UK, then to head office in France, fell on deaf ears. 

So, they were not 'happy to fix them', were they? No.

 

You know, because they refused outright. HELPFUL! Cheers lads. 

 

 

[garethj]

As Mr_Lobster says, I'm fine with buying whatever you want.  Part of the ace-ness of this place is seeing what others have bought, stuff that I couldn't have bought but I can get the experience through others.

[twosmoke300]

Back to the op , the problem with those cheap special offer Vauxhalls and fords is that they flood the market with them by also offering good finance deals. This means that there are so many with the same spec / engine etc for sale after a few years that they are worth bugger all .

[Stanky]

Wow, this is getting a bit toasty - I have nothing to add, no opinion, I've never had any experience of a car, know no-one who has one or ever even seen one.

 

£15k BMW person - it isn't normally like this, you have just hit a raw nerve - please don't leave!

[dugong]

£15k BMW person - it isn't normally like this, you have just hit a raw nerve - please don't leave!

I concur. Please stay.

[Felly Magic]

Just feel sorry for the poor sods who spunk out all the wonga brand new for summat like a big Bimmer, only for it to be worth almost half less than 12 months later

[Pillock]

Whilst it's not the most thrilling of threads, it is interesting to see what makes people buy a new car - because thousands of people do every month, which keeps us in motors in 20 years time. I've always wanted to travel back in time (I never said my aspirations were reasonable or easily achievable) and see what was going through someone's mind when they bought my 2001 Saab, or my old MGF, or any one of my old cars. Why that model, what options did they choose, why didn't they go for the competition around at the time?

 

Anyhow, I've got a 6 month old Astra. It's a work appliance, but it makes me understand why people sometimes buy new.

 

To answer the OP, an Insignia isn't a bad choice for an appliance. It won't be thrilling but you knew that, it will be perfectly fine. Make sure you choose some weird options to make someone wonder in 20 years time.