For Sale Lancia Y10 trusted Shiter loan or sale £600

[xtriple]

I#m really tempted to join in and I'm only in Torquey! However, how would people feel about two smelly dogs going in it? Also, if it goes wrong, I'll have to pay to have it fixed as I'm soooooo fucked these days.

 

Anyone capable of bringing it up here?

[twosmoke300]

Brilliant news on the pass , that saves so much hassle

[M'coli]

Excellent news! Just need to work out how to pick it up now...

[Negative Creep]

I#m really tempted to join in and I'm only in Torquey! However, how would people feel about two smelly dogs going in it? Also, if it goes wrong, I'll have to pay to have it fixed as I'm soooooo fucked these days.

 

Anyone capable of bringing it up here?

 

 

Unless they're two Chihuahuas I'm afraid you're going to struggle to fit them in! The car is about to leave the SW unfortunately, unless you fancied using it for a week or so before M'Coli gets it, but I'm afraid I'm not in a position to deliver it anywhere

[KruJoe]

Excellent news!

 

Cameron, are you next?

If any of the South-West Massive (SWM) can work out how to buzz this up to Shitefest, I'll happily A-frame it over to Yorkshire-shire. It's only two weeks away now.

[M'coli]

Aye, I do appearoto have queue-jumped* to be next...when I get back off of holiday a straight-off-nightshift collection using public transport is planned.

 

 

*Admittedly, I am gantin' oan it!

[KruJoe]

Fairy nuff. All NC wants is to for any (Phil-approved) shiter to turn up with a few quid and get it out of his way. He's done his bit. If others have missed their place in the queue for now due to [reasons], then that's that.

[xtriple]

Bugger. I just realised my friend over the road could have used this as her son has hers for the foreseeable future. I quite fancied buzzing around in the white hen for a bit.... should have been quicker on the uptake shouldn't I?

[phil_lihp]

Do remember that it's not being sold, it's on loan to forum members that Phil trusts until he's back from that distant upside down country and can have it back.

[Mr_Bo11ox]

Yeah I think that the spirit of the thing is that shiters have a bit of free-of-charge fun with it, tell us how they're getting on with it, and maintain it in some sort of order for the next dude. Not sure if lending it to the next door neighbour of a shiter is quite in line with the general ethos.

[Negative Creep]

I would agree with that, letting mates or family use it isn't really fair on Phil or anyone who's waiting for a turn. If this goes smoothly hopefully other schemes will follow, although I'd only do it again if I could go on the register ed keeper's insurance since I had to take out a new policy for this

[barefoot]

Well, this device is now at barefoot Towers.

 

 

And a fearsome device it is too!

 

 

Collected it from M'Coli and his fair wife yesterday in Leeds and drove it home at an indicated 120mph!

The speedo appears to have only a vague idea at best.

It is brisk, by God it is brisk, 

As Cameron said, the looks on other drivers faces when this slightly tatty, nondescript bit of an old hatch pulls away is hysterical.

 

The other side...

 

 

And some more pics

 

 

 

You decide!

 

Brisk fun but terribly bouncy and noisy.

It's like a souped up Panda - if such a thing were possible.

This will be pressed into regular service for the next couple of months as my local vehicle of choice.

I'll be interested to see what it will do to the galleon.

 

Can't remember name of the next shiter on the list, but I think he's from Kidderminster.

Get in touch, pick a date and book an early bird ticket to Derby/Loughborough railway stations.

[philibusmo]

Hope you enjoy it Barefoot, I think there was a spare speedo rattling around in the boot. Not sure if it is still there as I meant to change it before it went out on loan but never got around to it.

 

Got your PM and all is good, I think the next chap might be Red5?

[phil_lihp]

There was indeed a spare speedo in the boot, however I just 'calibrated' the existing, overly optimistic one using a speedometer app on my phone so I knew roughly where 30, 40 and 60 were.  From memory I think 70mph is an indicated 100mph but don't quote me on that.

 

Good to see it still doing the rounds, I never quite clicked with it but it was a good laugh.

[barefoot]

Interim muddled report;

 

This little Lancia is really odd.

 

It had never occurred to me before, how much like a FIAT Panda it actually is, but I suspect it's built on the same floorpan.

It's the driving position and oddly the rapid sweep of the single wiper where the similarities really jump out at you.

The driving position came as a major cultural shock to me, I've been driving a 944 and a Scarecrow for as long as I can remember and it has always surprised me when folk have fallen in beside me saying, 'isn't it low?' Never really thought about it until now when I'm sit up & begging in the Y10.

The shortness of its wheelbase enables it to find bumps that I never knew were there previously, there's even one in the street, just outside.

To quote an '87 roadtest:

"Handling unpredictable, Grip markedly reduced by wet roads, bumps. Straight-line stability upset by bumps & sidewinds, Harsh tiring ride, jitter turned to bounce and pitch as road worsened"

All of this is true, it understeers wildly, it bounces like 90% of the suspension is made of rubber, it's noisy too. The gearbox feels like it's made from mozzarella, syncro is decidedly weak on third and much improved with a bit of double de-clutching and matching revs to speed. The boot is about big enough to put a wine box in, the electric windows are very poorly designed and the glass doesn't like to stay in the regulator thing if you shut the door with the window wound all the way down - ask me how I found out!

There's a lot squeezed into a very thin door and the glass is constantly at risk of coming out again.

Oddly for a 'Luxury Car' the steering wheel has a very thin, hard plasticky rim, quite at odds with the rest of the sophisticated interior.

I did about 200 miles on the twenty quids worth of fuel that Cameron put in for me before I thought I ought to top it up, (the instruments are not noted for their accuracy) so I brimmed the tank for £35, there was still 15 litres in it. I'll calculate mpg next time I fill it, but it doesn't seem to use very much at all.

It is superb fun around town, with so much instant acceleration & Italian Brio - or possibly Brioche!

 

So, I don't like the driving position, the steering wheel and the ride/handling.

But I love the economy, the performance, the tatty looks, the irritation to my neighbours, "How many cars DO you want Dave?" the fun and the eightiesness. The radio has a USB input & I've downloaded a shedload of Laser 558 which, with it's American Dj's, cheesy music and skywave fade just completes the experience.

 

I've been in contact with Sam/Red5 and the next changeover will be at the end of October - ish.

 

Thanks for letting me play with your little car Phil.

[dollywobbler]

Excellent. I was staggered at what fun this car was. And damned near shit myself when I glanced at the speedo and saw it was over 100mph! Then I decided it was wrong.

[Pillock]

I've not got the room for this but I'd love to have a go and add my name to the list of shiters that have driven it.

 

Barefoot, is this your daily driver? If not, how would you feel about a day or a weekend "hire" of this? Naturally it may* come back with a few beers in the boot if you were kind enough....

I can't recall what the deal is with who has the V5 etc but I'd just grab some dayinsurance or something because my insurance would be third party only.

 

No pressure, simply figured if I don't ask I'll never know and I don't think it'll be as close to me as it currently is for a while. You're near East Mids Plane Station, no? 

[barefoot]

I am currently using this as my daily and although I am happy to sell it on/ pass it on to anyone, it's not mine.

Have a word with Phil - @philibusmo

 

[philibusmo]

Pillock is welcome to use it should he wish. He is an Autoshiter of excellent standing in my books since his perilous rescue of me and a Princess from Donnington Services.

 

I actually like the handling, it may not grip but you can always tell exactly where its going to go and what it's going to do next. The lack of grip somehow adds to the fun as it gets close to what seems to be its limits at perfectly achievable speeds.

 

It's limits are actually surprisingly high. After checking it around a track I discovered that it does keep gripping further than you would expect and I think with wider, grippy tyres it would go round corners like a blue arsed fly.

 

I miss it, I'm currently driving a car about three times the weight, twice the size with a lazy straight six and an autobox and really miss the immediate response and being able to zip through gaps in city traffic.

 

Sent from my Hudl 2 using Tapatalk

[barefoot]

Pillock pm'd

[Bear]

The Y10 is Panda-based, except it had the Omega axle from the start, whereas Pandas began with a crude setup and got the Omega one with the facelift. 4x4s remained the same throughout, and somewhere the back of my head is telling me a Y10 4x4 also existed, though I don't think they combined the Y10 FIRE Turbo engine with the 4x4 system. I'm sure Google would explain.

 

Pandas also lose the window if you slam the door too hard.

[Bear]

(Doubted self - googled. Turbo wasn't FIRE, something else, 4x4 did exist)

[Pillock]

Pillock pm'd

 

Pillock excite'd

[M'coli]

Lots of interesting stuff and fantastic developments on the little white hen!

 

I really should write up my experiences of this exciting, excellent little car.

[barefoot]

So today, for a treat, I took the fair Lady barefoot out for a bit of a ride and a spot of lunch in the Lancia.

This thing is really starting to grow on me.

It's a bit 2CV and somehow more than the sum of its parts. I never fail to get out of the car without a grin on my face.

Sadly the same cannot be said for the fair wife, who despite her convent education and strict lack of swears was heard to shout,

"For Fuck's Sake!" as we bounced merrily over a series of bumps that somehow coincided exactly with the natural resonance of the springs.

Then we arrived in sunny* Buxton 

 

 

Where we enjoyed a pleasant couple of hours, 

and I flirted recklessly with Danger...

 

 

...before we rattled home again.

This thing is sensational at the old acceleration lark, even for a chap like me who doesn't like to rev it much beyond 4,000 rpm

Because of the noise!

It's pretty much how I like to remember an old '72 Mini which had a 1275cc engine driving through the original 850 'box.

Fun

Bloody noisy, bouncy fun.

[Skut]

They are very noisy and a bit schizophrenic in character.  One day the best car you ever had.  The next day the worst.  Passengers often highlight its faults as they don't get the tactile feedback from the controls. They just get the noise and bounciness.

[barefoot]

A shopping expedition today involving Mrs Spacial Awareness.

 

 

Who proved that it is possible to get huge bags of bark, 25kg sacks of sharp sand, plant pots and all sorts of bollocks into the apparently tiny boot of a Y10. It goes a fair way to stop the little fucker bouncing a bit though - ride markedly improved for the ride home!

[philibusmo]

I'm still very pleased that this is being used well in my absense. I really missed it today when trying to thread a huge automatic barge up a winding, narrow mountain pass.

 

On a side note, when I had my Avantime, I had to change the front tyres. The rear seats in the Lancia both fold and flip into the footwells making it a super practical, yet tiny, van. When I arrived at the tyre fitters with big 16" hobbies from the Renault and the new tyres all stuffed in the back, the bloke gave me and odd look and exclaimed: "you're not going to try and put them on that little thing are you?"

[barefoot]

This morning, Pillock collected the Y10 and took it off to meet the Midlands Massiv at a truckstop on the A5.

We took a double Woolarding pic, which he will doubtless post tonight when he reports back...

[Pillock]

So, without interrupting the flow of the Y10 progression up the country I was allowed to partake today as Phillybuspass deemed me a suitable participant in the Autoshite Lancia Care-in-the-Community scheme, and Barefoot wasn't using it. I decided giving it a day out with the Midlands Massiv was a plan.

 

I turned up slightly later than anticipated, and slightly colder due to bright sunshine at home turning to thick fog on the 10 mile journey to Barefoot Towers and I had the bloody roof down on the Saab. Still, I was welcomed with open arms and given a brief lesson on the foibles of the little Lancia. I still don't know what would have happened had I used the electric windows, but I was also warned that the speedometer was pure guesswork, the pedals had appropriate spacing for a 4-year-old ballet dancer and bringing the car to a stop when cold would be somewhat like a clumsy Riverdance as it cuts out until it's warmed through.

 

We Woolarded (my first of many today, as you'll see in the Cannock thread)

 

I went on my way, as I had truckers breakfasts to eat and Barefoot had stuff to do too. On the way down the M42, this happened - I actually feel like a bit of a fraud that it occurred during my 10 hour stint rather than with anyone who had booked it and planned it and waited their turn properly.

(Two points. Firstly, for you Elf and Safety fans, the photo was taken by Mrs_Pillock. Secondly, see my point about the work-of-fiction speedometer. I think this was about 60mph)

 

A few thoughts on the car then. Bear in mind I usually pootle around in a diesel Astra which is actually impressively quiet and the car I had left immediately prior to jumping in this one was a petrol Saab. So the Y10 was LOUD and quite thrashy - I think there may be a slight blow in the exhaust and it might even be resting on something but the engine is really noticeable in the cabin, the tacho is completely redundant. The gearbox is quite long throw but a good action, third is a bit crunchy until warm though - and as I was warned, this is pretty much a four-speeder with a slight overdrive. The revs barely drop into the final gear which means it's doing 3200rpm or so at what we think is 70mph, but that does give enough power to keep up with traffic well and hoik it up hills on the motorway.

 

I didn't find it really quick until I was driving it back to Barefoot's house - I'd dropped the wife off at home. Losing a passenger made it much sprightlier, so I figured that adding two larger people to the 780kg bare weight affected performance more than, say the two of us in a 1200kg Astra. I also didn't find it particularly revvy, where I can take the Saab all the way to the redline this seemed to want to change up, it got more and more distressed. However partly I suspect this might have been the "someone else's car" effect. It was perfectly acceptable though, and it did make me laugh to beat some Audi Avant TDI thing off the lights - just the last time I was in a 800kg car it had 130bhp and a supercharger.

 

Note heater box is larger than the battery. That'll be why the heater was amazing.

 

Brakes, they're interesting. My leg aches from the effort needed to stop me making that phone call to Aviva, who kindly took £25 off me for a days insurance and breakdown cover. They work, but the pedal force needed is huge for a little tin can on wheels. It was stressful queueing down the hill at Hendesford, especially as by then it was a cold engine so it kept cutting out hence much of the queue was done without a servo.

 

 

Interior is brilliant, the seats are perfect and the dash design is just right - a strip of Alcantara and all the controls right in front of the driver. The electronic control takes up a huge amount of room to say it performs the same functions as a one-line dot matrix in the Saab, but I guess this is 1980s electronics filtering down to small cars. It worked through which is outstanding - apart from a glitch where it claimed two lights were out when they weren't but Barefoot had warned me of that. I never did work out what the light that just has a full stop next to it means though. I loved having so many gauges to check though.

 

Coming back up the M42, I noticed a steady stream of people having a glance as they passed. Plus a group of lads in a Punto who were all craning their necks and pointing, it occurred to me that it must be 10 years since I saw another of these in the wild. I did wave at both a Maserati driver (hoping for Italian solidarity) and a Panda 4x4 Sisley driver, neither waved back. However then I saw a Chrysler Ypsilon which is probably the nearest relation, they are badged as Lancias everywhere else in the world. I was probably expecting too much to think the driver would understand the connection though so I just gave up waving at people.

 

Closest car in terms of attitude? Here's a picture of a red car with black bootlid, from a red car with black bootlid. Both have a nice simple interior, both city cars. 

 

Would I want this as my daily driver? Absolutely not, I'm knackered after driving it thanks to my weedy PAS-fuelled servo-assisted body not being man enough. Am I glad it exists? Definitely. I've loved my day with the white hen, and I'm so glad I got a chance before it moved on. Thanks to Barefoot for being brilliant and accommodating, and Phil for keeping it on the road with the epic welding and for being so nice he's willing to trust virtual friends with his car.